One Plant Looks Twisted, Several Are Growing yellowish leaves

grrower

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OK, so before I ruin my first attempt I thought I'd ask some advise.

I have been working on a droopy leaf problem for a couple days but think it's due to overwatering.

Yesterday I noticed that my new growth is turning slightly yellow while the rest of the plant is maintaining a good green color.

Is it time to feed? They are 2 1/2 weeks old and haven't been given any nutes yet. They are in MG slow release (3 month feed) soil. Should I give a 1/4 strength of my fert on the next water cycle or will I risk burning them?

Also attached is a picture of a twisted plant I managed to grow. I don't know what's causing it. The entire plant is a good green color (the yellow in that pic is due to the lights). Any Idea why this one looks so twisted
 

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grrower

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I found the problem!

I at least have a zinc deficiency and probably some other micro elements missing due to PH lockout. I've corrected my water PH to 6.0-6.5 and hopefully after the next water Ill be back on track.
 

morrisgreenberg

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whoa slow down there tiger. who told you about zinc deficiency? zinc is a micro nute, not absorbed as fast the the big 3 MAcro nutes n p k..... it takes a long time to get these kinds of defs/...do what dirty said, but first do not use time released soils or nutes, try to get something not MG because they are too loaded with nutrients, the edges of the fan leaves are pointing down which tells me that it has a ton of nitrogen, what happens next is they get very dark-almost blue then they get tip burn, whatever soil you use next add around 20% perlite to the mix, this is for aeration and drainage, also how do you know you have ph lockout? you can flush your soil to wash out any fertilizer in there, use plain PH'ds water at 6.0, now since your soil is loaded with time released nutes you may have to flush really good atleast 3 times the amount of volume in that pot, but wait till the soil gets dry before you do this, you can flush till you see runoff water that is clear, once your flush is done you can begin adding nutes every other watering at 1/4 strength
 

Uk.Cobra

Active Member
looks like overwatering to me and if you have them in party cups time to get them out


your soil could be the problem here i don't see much perlite what soil are you using? get good drainage?
 

laserbrn

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I'd say slow down more step.... Don't flush those crappy time released nutes. Go get some quality soil and transplant into that. They should be fine after the transplant without a flush, if you flush you'll release more and more time release nutes. You can't just "flush" them out, they just keep on releasin'.

Transplant to a better soil, do mix in some perlite, at least 20% and just ride it out, don't add any more nutes.

Oh yeah and what makes you think ph lockout? Could be an antagonist response from the time release nutes, there's a lot of possibilitles.
 

grrower

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Oh yeah and what makes you think ph lockout? Could be an antagonist response from the time release nutes, there's a lot of possibilitles.
because my plants look exactly like this



and from the same guide on this forum it says...

Deficiencies appear as chlorosis in the inter-veinal areas of new leaves producing a banding appearance as seen in figure 18. This may be accompany reduction of leaf size and a shortening between internodes. Leaf margins are often distorted or wrinkled. Branch terminals of fruit will die back in severe cases.
Also gets locked out due to high pH. Zn, Fe, and Mn deficiencies often occur together, and are usually from a high pH.
my plants are shortening node space and turning yellow just like the picture, that pic might as well be my plants.

To this point my plats have been being watered with about 8.0 PH...

I think it took this long for the acid to build up and that's why im seeing the sudden change.
 

laserbrn

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because my plants look exactly like this



and from the same guide on this forum it says...



my plants are shortening node space and turning yellow just like the picture, that pic might as well be my plants.

To this point my plats have been being watered with about 8.0 PH...

I think it took this long for the acid to build up and that's why im seeing the sudden change.
Ah...there's the answer "

To this point my plats have been being watered with about 8.0 PH..."

Just wanted to make sure there was something to substantiate this claim such as a measure of the runoff or checking the watering ph.

More than likely that's your problem and you're straight now.
 

SikSol

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For one watering with 8.0 PH will keep the plant from soaking up hardly any nutes at all, I know I do it on purpose when I flush for that reason.

Overwatering does not appear to be a problem much at all in this case if there is any its very minimal incident. They could use a transplant to larger container though so you dont need to worry about it later on.

After a few waterings or so of fixing your PH to 6.5-6.8 you should be fine.
 
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