Open Season on Illegal Immigrants

nontheist

nontheist

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Harrekin said:
I can have a graph that conclusively proves you're a gay, child molestor.

It doesn't make you one but statistics and graphs are VERY easily manipulated to give a misleading conclusion.
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But what if the conclusion is already there for everyone to see and the graph only outlines it? The question is do you not believe that we spent 610.1billion in education in 2009? Or the cost has damn near tripled inflation adjusted cost (which the chart describes)? With a big blank spot that says "state administration expenditures are excluded from "current" expenditures. Current expenditures include instruction, student support services, food services and enterprise operations. Beginning in 1988-89, extensive changes were made in the data collection procedures" and CATO clearly states it includes "all costs" The 800 billion number is floating around on what we currently spend a little over 12k a student. Your also dealing with two idiots that think the property taxes pay for all education when the tax payer pays 40% on federal on top of the state tax. Also they have said inflation has barely risen we paid 842 dollars per student in 1970 pre inflation.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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nontheist said:
But what if the conclusion is already there for everyone to see and the graph only outlines it? The question is do you not believe that we spent 610.1billion in education in 2009? Or the cost has damn near tripled inflation adjusted cost (which the chart describes)? With a big blank spot that says "state administration expenditures are excluded from "current" expenditures. Current expenditures include instruction, student support services, food services and enterprise operations. Beginning in 1988-89, extensive changes were made in the data collection procedures" and CATO clearly states it includes "all costs" The 800 billion number is floating around on what we currently spend a little over 12k a student. Your also dealing with two idiots that think the property taxes pay for all education when the tax payer pays 40% on federal on top of the state tax.
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I'm not arguing the points with you, I honestly don't care how much you's spend on education.

My point was that graphs and statistics without methodology and data can be made look like whatever you want.

In reterospect, there is a big money hole in that budget somewhere tho.
 
nontheist

nontheist

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Harrekin said:
I'm not arguing the points with you, I honestly don't care how much you's spend on education.

My point was that graphs and statistics without methodology and data can be made look like whatever you want.

In reterospect, there is a big money hole in that budget somewhere tho.
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Of course but just saying nu-uh without evidence is a far cry from discrediting the obvious. If the charts is off the outcome is the same per US gov and we don't have access to total expenditures so trying to call someone a liar when there isn't really any point of lying as the conclusion is public knowledge.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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nontheist said:
If the charts is off the outcome is the same per US gov and we don't have access to total expenditures so trying to call someone a liar when there isn't really any point of lying as the conclusion is public knowledge.
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that was almost a sentence in english.

well, not really.

clearly, any money we spent on educating you was a complete waste.*











*at least you are being the change you want to see in the world.
 
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Anotherlover

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NLXSK1 said:
We are not worried because of some mexicans.

We are pissed off because our government passes laws that they dont enforce, creating an illegal minority class in this country. Then they lie to the American people while ignoring the problem until it gets to the point where they declare (due to their incompetence which is never mentioned) that they have to suddenly make millions of people legal, people that broke laws and jumped their place in the immigration line because it now has suddenly become a crisis. A crisis that they created.

It is not about race, it is about government apathy, incompetence, and flat out criminal behavior.

And the releasing of hundreds of criminal immigrants a few days before the sequester is provably a political move rather than a budgetary move. And the white house is running around telling us they had no idea it was happening. Obama doesnt seem to have much control over what happens in his administration.
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lol.

Jacob Zuma (grade 4 highest education) and the ANC (a "struggle" party).

Whole continent north of us (except Botswana) are either 1 party states (like ours), life long presidents (Mugabe as an example), starving or at war.
They can't get into Botswana so they all come here.
 
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