Opiates

First off I apologize to those offended by this kinda
thread being a newb. I have actually returned but
starting anew.. And I'm not interested in anyone's
personal info just advise! I have an incredibly bad
"H" habit and am moving to Denver where only blk tar
is available. We only have colombian(most call china wht)
and is snortable.. I've lost most of my sight and cannot
fire "at will", and last time I tried getting well ssmoking
that tar it was a disaster.. Thru family/friends deal in it here
and I have a habit with this kind (so much stronger) and
my last trip to SF I just couldn't get well with blk tar..
it was an absolute nightmare! I realize its best to jjust
bite the bullet and kick! But anyone know if its possible
to freeze or dryout tar then snort w/cut or easy way oof smoking?

Um, yes, you can take your tar and put it in a mortar and pestle with some sort of powder and create something you can snort with some grinding. Bad idea over all though, you might think of kicking.

Trade it for some oxy?

In Chicago its mainly powder heroin but there is tar. If you have ever bought "raw" heroin in chicago that is brown but has little black specs in it then that was tar that was made into pwder form. I actually bought 17.5 grams of it about a month ago....it was shit in my opinion. I like my dope white or slightly off white(tan or gray). But anyways here's a answer for your question: tar + quinine + lactose + diphenhydramine(DPH) = powder. Of course I cant tell you exactly how much to put of each cause the quality of the dope decides that factor for ya. Also you don't need to add all the stuff I mentioned you could just add the tar and one of the powders I mentioned and be just fine. But if you snort it then snorting a lot of DPH is going to burn like hell. Like I said I normally always get white-to off white heroin in solid rock form. I mix 5 grams of it at a time and for 5g I put 72 Dormin sleeping pills(DPH main ingredient) which has a total weight of 18g, 4g of quinine, and 10 xanax(2mg.) bars, which weigh about 3g total. So on 5grams of Chicago "raw" heroin I can put a total of about 25 grams of cut on it....and the customer's like it. The only reason I bring that up though is cause there is also chicago "raw" heroin that you can't even put 7 dormin pills on it or it will be too weak. So it goes the same with tar. Once you find out how good/pure it is then you can start adjusting the amount of adulterant you want/need to use. I'm not sure if anything I just typed helps you out at all, but I'm bored and I figured what the hell I might as well type something.

Dissolve it in water like you're going to shoot it and squirt it up your nose.

Please don't move to Colorado. We have a very sound economy and don't need it fucked up by junkies.

Scrotie Mcboogerballs said:

Please don't move to Colorado. We have a very sound economy and don't need it fucked up by junkies.

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You are quite ignorant. Colorado has as many "junkies" as anyone else. "Junkies" are human beings just like you but the only difference is the have a few demons to deal with. If everyone thought like you there would be a whole lot more "junkies" because there would be nobody to listen to them and help them see a different way. PS to the OP I was there bro so I use the word junkies as a quote only. Not my word.

I'm ignorant? Deal with your personal problems like a big boy. You're right though, junkies are human beings. They are just the weaker ones. Survival of the fittest though. While you're busy passing down your shitty genetics because you can't stay clean, the rest of us will be using you and your kin as laborers and actually making something of ourselves. Yes, I understand that it is hard to kick drugs but it all comes down to choice.

I love people like you. Talk shit on the internet knowing you have an insulator between you and the people you talk shit to. I would love to see you come to the neighborhood I am from and talk that shit. We would see whos weak then.

I'm not talking shit. It's just the way the world turns. The neighborhood you're from? So you have a whole neighborhood full of junkies that would get upset because they don't like the truth? That's too bad.

Scrotie Mcboogerballs said:

I'm not talking shit. It's just the way the world turns. The neighborhood you're from? So you have a whole neighborhood full of junkies that would get upset because they don't like the truth? That's too bad.

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used to have a bad H habit, think it started from my willingness to say fuck it and try anything like base jumping or shooting heroin. it came to the point to where the physical dependency kicked in and then i had to have it to be normal. I put the needle down after about two years of shooting heroin and coke when i could afford both. i got on the methadone program at 85 mg for three months and now i am in the process of switching to suboxone with the end goal of getting off everything. i didnt taper down to 30mg of methadone before switching like they say u should, definitely have been sick for the past couple days, i also understand buprenorphine and how it works on the receptors but i am wondering if anyone else has switched from a high dose of done to sub without tapering down first.

also i love it when people apply darwins " survival of the fittest " in that way because it shows that they do not understand the theory at all. its not the strong that flourish but the species that adapts to change. with your narrow minded and self righteous perspective you really show that you are the weaker of us "junkies" or ex junkies. Have you ever made a mistake? made a choice that wasn't the best choice? Im sure you have. If you have never made a mistake i recant my statement and admit to being wrong.
i dont regret my "mistakes" because it has made me who i am , a more understanding person unlike yourself. when my struggle is completely over I will flourish. this thread is for us people to relate and learn from one another, if you are so superior then stay out of the thread or maybe start your own superior race or army and take over us inferior ones maybe you are right we all need to be wiped out........ya dick.

p.s. there are many many "junkies" already in denver and the rest of CO . i just moved to Co a few months back and my junkie days date long before i came here but im getting clean now if thats ok with you if i stay here in co while i get better or would you rather ex addicts not be here too? whats your addiction? feeling superior? putting others down? video games?

also getting clean takes a great amount of adaptation so next time you want to take an idea from someone who is smarter than you(charles darwin) and try to use it to validate your superiority make sure you understand the idea first,oh yea we already know understanding isnt your forte' but i admit that is a common misuse or merely another interpretation of his work mainly by people like you in the same kind of situation.

im done, good luck to those fighting the battle against ignorance and addiction

Scrotie Mcboogerballs said:

I'm ignorant? Deal with your personal problems like a big boy. You're right though, junkies are human beings. They are just the weaker ones. Survival of the fittest though. While you're busy passing down your shitty genetics because you can't stay clean, the rest of us will be using you and your kin as laborers and actually making something of ourselves. Yes, I understand that it is hard to kick drugs but it all comes down to choice.

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you are a worthless human being. have fun being a hippocrit next time you pop a pain pill FOR ANYTHING.

Id be much more worried about your offspring of ignorance, and probably self-loathing, than any threat of "junkies" reproducing. you truely are a complete fool. "it comes down to choice" -> yeah, just about. lmao

Scrotie Mcboogerballs said:

I'm ignorant? Deal with your personal problems like a big boy. You're right though, junkies are human beings. They are just the weaker ones. Survival of the fittest though. While you're busy passing down your shitty genetics because you can't stay clean, the rest of us will be using you and your kin as laborers and actually making something of ourselves. Yes, I understand that it is hard to kick drugs but it all comes down to choice.

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You presume that those who use or abuse opiates are weak, worse, you seem to presume that no one who is addicted to opiates are capable of "making something of themselves" I am sure that some of these people might differ with you.


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ugh, hes just a troll. he's either an un-intelligent idiot, or a little kid. i mean this IS a drug-oriented website.
man... what gets some people's rocks off i geuss. for some its a drug, for others its showing out on the internet, where they dont have to show their face.

like i said, he either IS or will be a hippocrit one day... either him or someone he loves will have to be on opiates more than likely.

Scrotie Mcboogerballs said:

I'm not talking shit. It's just the way the world turns. The neighborhood you're from? So you have a whole neighborhood full of junkies that would get upset because they don't like the truth? That's too bad.

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It's probably a neighborhood filled with people that don't give ignorance like your's a second chance.

Oldschool aggro said:

......snip........I have an incredibly bad
"H" habit and am moving to Denver where only blk tar
is available. .....snip.....

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I am sorry. This is a terrible position to be in. You know you have another option, you could get into a methadone maintenance program. That would be a lot safer for you. Frankly if you don't get high off it anymore and you are just keeping the sickness at bay methadone maintenance could give you your life back and you don't have to kick or you can work on kicking slowly. But at least this would give you some breathing room.

Hope things turn out ok for you.

curious2garden said:

I am sorry. This is a terrible position to be in. You know you have another option, you could get into a methadone maintenance program. That would be a lot safer for you. Frankly if you don't get high off it anymore and you are just keeping the sickness at bay methadone maintenance could give you your life back and you don't have to kick or you can work on kicking slowly. But at least this would give you some breathing room.

Hope things turn out ok for you.

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Barring that, i would recommend coming all the way clean. Kicking methadone was harder for/on me than kicking the shorter actors. cn

Welll back to the discussion of how to take tar..I never got it when I messeid with heroin,but had friends in l.a. and they got it and they dissolved it and snorted the liquid like duck said...btw guys...don't hate on people here at riu...were ALL doing something others don't approve of ultimately..and no matter a sterotype of a person,not all are true....

Scrotie Mcboogerballs said:

Please don't move to Colorado. We have a very sound economy and don't need it fucked up by junkies.

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Have you ever been there yourself? Have you ever walked in those shoes ? Have you ever just had to make " the choice ".....have you ever had a loved one living in that world? Do you even have a FUCKEN CLUE what that is like?? Or are you a self rightous Moron that thinks your so called " good genetics " will exempt you or one of yours from getting tangled in something like that one day.....I would be very careful what words I used if I was you....that shit could just come back to bite you in the ass one of these days....maybe not you....but some how. some way.......This is not a Good Genetics problem...or a poor mans problem.....Educate yourself and SNAP!!! This is a social issue that crosses every social setting from rich to middle to poor to Doctors, Lawyers, Judges......straight across the board.....your post really irritated me.....Your cluless and frankly...I feel sorry for you.