Opinions on LED's?

Again, that is his goal... he is not pulling 2.5 gs per watt. Also if you read the introduction, he is using advanced soils, LST techniques, a light rail, CO2 and many other tricks... hardly a fair comparison, lol....

As I stated, I'm done trying to have this conversation. You can continue to grow your way, I'm growing mine.
Try the same techniques with led and see if it can pull the same.
 

Serapis

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Oh and berrywidow. for all this craptalkin your pics of your plants dont really back up the great grower you claim to be. My a-train look 100 times better then your wack pix brother!
Dude, chill out.... there is no sense what so ever in sharing your opinion any further. He is not going to be swayed to consider LEDs and your resorting to names or my plant is bigger than your plant will get us nowhere.
 
Oh and berrywidow. for all this craptalkin your pics of your plants dont really back up the great grower you claim to be. My a-train look 100 times better then your wack pix brother!
Each plant was 3 oz or more so i really dont care what you are saying about that.Pics can look better when you use a cam not a iphone to take pics ass.
 

Serapis

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Try the same techniques with led and see if it can pull the same.
I don't have to, I already know that untouched, LEDs outproduce hids gram for gram. If I was to follow his steps and use LEDs of the 600w, I would out produce him. it is simple algebra.... the variables are the same, we take a known result, i.e., LED=1grm/watt and we change the variables for a new grow. Anything your hid produces more, the LED will mathematically beat it. It's called a controlled study. We have one and the results. Any improvement to your .69gr/watt can also be achieved under the LEDs at the same ratio.
 

stelthy

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Is that 1 90 watt or 2 90 watts with a 125 watt cfl.I get 7oz from 2 plants with my 400 easily.I usually get 3-4 oz a plant average.
Its 2 90w and a 125w yeah man (305w total)... the canopy was well thick so needed the cfl A to help the contrast and B to penetrate the lower level - STELTHY
 

Serapis

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Stelthy, you are using CFLs, t-5's, LEDs and who knows what else. Thanks for sharing your pics though. I'm currently doing a 100% LED grow, linked in my sig. bubleicious.
 
have a good night
Yeah good night to you.Because i still dont see nothing and talking about me where is your half pound from 1 90 watt led?????Threads you started recently sound stupid for you to be getting half pounds from your 90 watts.AT least i have pics from my grows not one grow.Multiple grows.Show me yours.
 
I don't have to, I already know that untouched, LEDs outproduce hids gram for gram. If I was to follow his steps and use LEDs of the 600w, I would out produce him. it is simple algebra.... the variables are the same, we take a known result, i.e., LED=1grm/watt and we change the variables for a new grow. Anything your hid produces more, the LED will mathematically beat it. It's called a controlled study. We have one and the results. Any improvement to your .69gr/watt can also be achieved under the LEDs at the same ratio.
No problem im subbed to your thread.I would like to see how your grow finishes and results.
 

Serapis

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glad to have you on.

Thanks for being mature in the conversation. It is simply amazing how fast some people stoop to name calling in LED threads.
 

stelthy

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And there we have it (305w total) aka 2X 90w LED UFOs 1X 125w CFL and pulled just over 7oZ :) SO people despite rediculous claims that LEDs suck, simply add a 125w CFL to the equasion and still cash in on bud profit, one of the plants was JACK HERER and the other was SKUNK/CHEESE cross. I am now experimenting with a 600 MH/HPS in a cab to see what the difference is :) the only thing I would say is with LED.. good quality lights you do have to pay through the nose for or the lights may die before harvest (CHINESE MODELS) so buy American/Jap/Oz/UK lighting :)
 
And there we have it (305w total) aka 2X 90w LED UFOs 1X 125w CFL and pulled just over 7oZ :) SO people despite rediculous claims that LEDs suck, simply add a 125w CFL to the equasion and still cash in on bud profit, one of the plants was JACK HERER and the other was SKUNK/CHEESE cross. I am now experimenting with a 600 MH/HPS in a cab to see what the difference is :) the only thing I would say is with LED.. good quality lights you do have to pay through the nose for or the lights may die before harvest (CHINESE MODELS) so buy American/Jap/Oz/UK lighting :)
A link to your journal would have been quicker but thanks for all the pics.+rep
 

Serapis

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And there we have it (305w total) aka 2X 90w LED UFOs 1X 125w CFL and pulled just over 7oZ :) SO people despite rediculous claims that LEDs suck, simply add a 125w CFL to the equasion and still cash in on bud profit, one of the plants was JACK HERER and the other was SKUNK/CHEESE cross. I am now experimenting with a 600 MH/HPS in a cab to see what the difference is :) the only thing I would say is with LED.. good quality lights you do have to pay through the nose for or the lights may die before harvest (CHINESE MODELS) so buy American/Jap/Oz/UK lighting :)
where do you get the clasp top jars? I have looked all over and only find the metal tops.
 
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