Oragrow 2017

oragrow

oragrow

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Hello,
Growing seeds from pollen chucking of Oregon Green Seeds gear last year
Afghan x Blue Snow Dog, Mastodon x Blue Snow Dog , Donkey Kong x Blue Snow Dog.
In addition, there is a Blue Dream seedling from dispensary bud, probably grow it in a pot so I can move it this fall if female.

I grew a small DK x blue snowdog and a couple of mastodon x blue snowdog over the winter.
 

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slow drawl

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Hey @oragrow looking forward to following your season.
Do you expect these seeds to be acclimated well for our climate.
I've had my eye on OGS for the past couple years but never can find anything
In stock that I want when I want it.
 
oragrow

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slow drawl said:
Hey @oragrow looking forward to following your season.
Do you expect these seeds to be acclimated well for our climate.
I've had my eye on OGS for the past couple years but never can find anything
In stock that I want when I want it.
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Hi @slow drawl , Yes that is the way to do it, Hopefully find a phenotype that will do well. I know there will probably some phenos will not want for 1 thing or another. My goal is to make more seeds for next year. By doing this they will acclimatized, a lot of success depends on picking the right plants to grow out.

Last time I bought seeds from them was in 15, after that they have been out of stock on most things.
 
Humanrob

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slow drawl said:
Hey @oragrow looking forward to following your season.
Do you expect these seeds to be acclimated well for our climate.
I've had my eye on OGS for the past couple years but never can find anything
In stock that I want when I want it.
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From what I can tell, OGS puts out their seed list some time in early December, and it's 90% gone by the end of December. I have to think that with more dispensaries carrying seeds (now open to everyone), that should take some of the pressure off of mail-order. I was lucky, I ordered/received some seeds from them earlier this month -- I didn't have much to choose from but I'm happy with what I got. At least with OGS they tell you right on the list page if its out of stock, with Southern Oregon Seeds you have to click on every strain individually to find out if they are sold out. I clicked on 52 separate fem-auto seed pages to find out they had 6 left.

Of course, even with "mold resistant" seeds that have short flower times, I think we still need to cover them at the end of the season, and I will definitely be giving them many organic bug/mold sprayings right up until they start to flower.

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@Humanrob , I started to lst train these from '15 grow. I think they were 3ft before staked and tied.
However I didn't spread the branches out and they still attained a height of 8ft.
This year will spread out and stake the branches
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8 feet... too much plant for me! LOL I'll be starting late and hopefully finishing early, with any luck and lots of training I'll keep them around 4' tall -- if they are 8' wide I'm OK with that. Many things are two-edged swords. The benefit to shorter plants is easier access and they can't be seen over the fence. The downside can be that the buds are kept closer to the ground -- last year most of my PM problems started in the shadowy areas closer to the moist ground. It's always something, right? hahaha
 
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Humanrob said:
From what I can tell, OGS puts out their seed list some time in early December, and it's 90% gone by the end of December. I have to think that with more dispensaries carrying seeds (now open to everyone), that should take some of the pressure off of mail-order. I was lucky, I ordered/received some seeds from them earlier this month -- I didn't have much to choose from but I'm happy with what I got. At least with OGS they tell you right on the list page if its out of stock, with Southern Oregon Seeds you have to click on every strain individually to find out if they are sold out. I clicked on 52 separate fem-auto seed pages to find out they had 6 left.

Have to remember that about OGS next time when looking for seeds.

Of course, even with "mold resistant" seeds that have short flower times, I think we still need to cover them at the end of the season, and I will definitely be giving them many organic bug/mold sprayings right up until they start to flower.

I need to try cover them if funds allow me too. I had been looking a Summer Weight Pest Row Cover, something like this
https://www.groworganic.com/agribon-ag-15-9-83-x-2000-early-buy-special.html, hopefully find some locally and tent the entire plant as a test, if not too spendy

8 feet... too much plant for me! LOL I'll be starting late and hopefully finishing early, with any luck and lots of training I'll keep them around 4' tall -- if they are 8' wide I'm OK with that. Many things are two-edged swords. The benefit to shorter plants is easier access and they can't be seen over the fence. The downside can be that the buds are kept closer to the ground -- last year most of my PM problems started in the shadowy areas closer to the moist ground. It's always something, right? hahaha
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Been thinking about doing a scrog outside starting at the 4ft level climbing up a ladder is getting old for me.
PM is a problem of THC farmers and home gardeners, esp squash over here.:cuss:

Thank you for the TIP about bringing the outside pots inside to finish. That reminded my when my wife brought in hanging baskets of fuchsias, in a few days we had 6 just hatched yellow jackets flying around. The pots went outside and were re-potted in fresh soil minus yellow jackets.
 
slow drawl

slow drawl

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oragrow said:
I have used http://concentratesnw.com/ supply store for organics soil amendments.
Attached is their product list, for prices call.
Their store is easy to miss, use the google map with earth view.

plus this site http://www.evergreengrowers.com
thank you @backtracker
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Hey @oragrow that's great info. I was just there at concentrates last week to stock up.
Cool place and good prices, just discovered it thru @Amshif87. I'll check out evergreengrowers as well.
There is a neat little place on SE Powell in Portland..I think called Naomi's?? that carries a good supply
of organic grow items.
I'm biting at the bit to get started. Things were bigger than they needed to be last year so I'm making my self wait a bit longer to get started.
 
oragrow

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slow drawl said:
Hey @oragrow that's great info. I was just there at concentrates last week to stock up.
Cool place and good prices, just discovered it thru @Amshif87. I'll check out evergreengrowers as well.
There is a neat little place on SE Powell in Portland..I think called Naomi's?? that carries a good supply
of organic grow items.
I'm biting at the bit to get started. Things were bigger than they needed to be last year so I'm making my self wait a bit longer to get started.
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Thats willpower, @slow drawl , seedlings are popping up outside, they're ready to go.
 

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experience with ogs seeds, is that they grow great, they do need to be kept out of the rain with air flow. The is plan is to scrog and get some kind of top cover and sides plus run a box fan out there.
 
Humanrob

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oragrow said:
experience with ogs seeds, is that they grow great, they do need to be kept out of the rain with air flow. The is plan is to scrog and get some kind of top cover and sides plus run a box fan out there.
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I'm not expecting miracles from the OGS seeds, but I hope they are hearty. In 2015 we had one plant that was uncovered all season, and finished without any issues at all. I had two others (different strains) in a structure and one got mold the other didn't. Genetics is a huge part of the picture.

What you want to build sounds something like what I did last year. In 2015 I found that the structure I built was trapping moisture in, and obviously that was a problem. So in 2016 I left the whole bottom section open and just made a "covered wagon" for the top -- it was 6' x 12'. There is a scrog built in where the plastic starts. For the last stretch when there was only one plant left, in addition to the fan I had a 600w HPS to try and make up for the late season sun dipping behind trees (would have used a 1000w if I had one).

This design did work better, but by the end of the season the sun is so low and there are so many overcast days, that I haven't found a plant yet that won't mold up by mid-October. Whatever I've got the first week of October seems to be all I'm going to get from them, after that it's all down hill. Of course, we could have an unusually warm dry sunny fall, this is only my third outdoor coming up, so that's just my experience so far and that's what I'm trying to prepare for.

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oragrow

oragrow

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Humanrob said:
I'm not expecting miracles from the OGS seeds, but I hope they are hearty. In 2015 we had one plant that was uncovered all season, and finished without any issues at all. I had two others (different strains) in a structure and one got mold the other didn't. Genetics is a huge part of the picture.

What you want to build sounds something like what I did last year. In 2015 I found that the structure I built was trapping moisture in, and obviously that was a problem. So in 2016 I left the whole bottom section open and just made a "covered wagon" for the top -- it was 6' x 12'. There is a scrog built in where the plastic starts. For the last stretch when there was only one plant left, in addition to the fan I had a 600w HPS to try and make up for the late season sun dipping behind trees (would have used a 1000w if I had one).

This design did work better, but by the end of the season the sun is so low and there are so many overcast days, that I haven't found a plant yet that won't mold up by mid-October. Whatever I've got the first week of October seems to be all I'm going to get from them, after that it's all down hill. Of course, we could have an unusually warm dry sunny fall, this is only my third outdoor coming up, so that's just my experience so far and that's what I'm trying to prepare for.

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That Cover looks very nice.
Appears similar like it. How high is the structure?

Put a plastic or a tarp on the ground up to a few inches from the base and get a dehumidifier. Extend the sides to the ground and seal the door that may work? won't know unless its tried, need to start saving $ for fall.

I look at the Old Farmers Almanac weather I usually look at this to an idea whats in store for gardening.

http://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/region/us/15
 
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Humanrob

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oragrow said:
That Cover looks very nice.
Appears similar like it. How high is the structure?

Put a plastic or a tarp on the ground up to a few inches from the base and get a dehumidifier. Extend the sides to the ground and seal the door that may work? won't know unless its tried, need to start saving $ for fall.

I look at the Old Farmers Almanac weather I usually look at this to an idea whats in store for gardening.

http://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/region/us/15
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I never measured the height, but I found a pic with a 6' ladder next to it, so it looks to be about 6'6" tall.

I've run a lot of dehumidifiers, they can be expensive electricity-wise. I'm still trying to figure out how to do a floor in a fully sealed greenhouse (other than pouring a slab) that would be enough of a moisture barrier that a dehumidifier wouldn't be fighting a constant moisture source.

As far as the venerable Farmer's Almanac... I have to wonder how their formidable history of weather can account for the erratic nature of climate change in terms of future projections?

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oragrow

oragrow

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Humanrob said:
I'm not expecting miracles from the OGS seeds, but I hope they are hearty. In 2015 we had one plant that was uncovered all season, and finished without any issues at all. I had two others (different strains) in a structure and one got mold the other didn't. Genetics is a huge part of the picture.

What you want to build sounds something like what I did last year. In 2015 I found that the structure I built was trapping moisture in, and obviously that was a problem. So in 2016 I left the whole bottom section open and just made a "covered wagon" for the top -- it was 6' x 12'. There is a scrog built in where the plastic starts. For the last stretch when there was only one plant left, in addition to the fan I had a 600w HPS to try and make up for the late season sun dipping behind trees (would have used a 1000w if I had one).

This design did work better, but by the end of the season the sun is so low and there are so many overcast days, that I haven't found a plant yet that won't mold up by mid-October. Whatever I've got the first week of October seems to be all I'm going to get from them, after that it's all down hill. Of course, we could have an unusually warm dry sunny fall, this is only my third outdoor coming up, so that's just my experience so far and that's what I'm trying to prepare for.

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Getting a quote on have a couple branches removed, hopefully not spendy. That would give the plants a few more hours of the sun.
The way the suns hits my yard, I plan on a curved vertical and a slanted horizontal scrog.
 
oragrow

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Humanrob said:
I never measured the height, but I found a pic with a 6' ladder next to it, so it looks to be about 6'6" tall.

I've run a lot of dehumidifiers, they can be expensive electricity-wise. I'm still trying to figure out how to do a floor in a fully sealed greenhouse (other than pouring a slab) that would be enough of a moisture barrier that a dehumidifier wouldn't be fighting a constant moisture source.

As far as the venerable Farmer's Almanac... I have to wonder how their formidable history of weather can account for the erratic nature of climate change in terms of future projections?

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this pic gives me a better idea on the height issue. thank you
figured dehumidifiers suck up the kw's, the is cost prohibitive for me.
The almanac, I use as a guide, however if the weather goes into apocalypse mode. :othen I need to build an outdoor :weed: room with a 5 kw generator powering everything.
:idea: a quality tarp laid down will be sufficient,then just grow in pots.
just a quick search turned up is https://www.snowtrekkertents.com/tarps.html, long term durability from foot traffic is my concern.
 
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