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cary schellie

cary schellie

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I found a web site that sells grams of all the jwh synthetic cannabinoids and many other products for research purpose to some states.
are any of these any good?
mppp
4mmc
methylone
4-mec
mdpv
4-aco-dmt
methoetine
plus many more

im gonna pick up some mdpv but dont alot about the others. im not sure if i'm allowed to give the link
 
laywhoish12

laywhoish12

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hmmm i hear 4-aco-dmt is converted into the active chemical in shrooms i believe (correct me if im wrong though) i know alot of people did use methylone not sure if its good though, and not sure on the rest ! :)
 
laywhoish12

laywhoish12

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oh i lied lol 4mmc is mephedrone its a synthetic stimulant and entactogen somewhat producing affects similar to MDMA coke and amphetamines
 
Corbat420

Corbat420

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MDPV Is awsome in my Experiance....

its Coke and MDMA got together and had a child.

Edit: MDMC, M1, or methylone is also good (Those are all the same thing...). its hard to explain the High with this one.... sometimes its EXACTLY like MDMA, but sometimes its a creeper....
 
Shannon Alexander

Shannon Alexander

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Mephedrone is alright... real quick pick up but a real quick dump when compared to other chemicals I've done... Still it's a great little pick me up... I don't know about anyone else but it really helped to slow down my thoughts and think clearly...
 
forgetfulpenguin

forgetfulpenguin

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I've looked into getting some methylone for myself before and it looks like a pleasant, uplifting high. I never got around to it so this is just what I've heard about it.
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/cathinone.htm
Carrying this argument one step further, the obvious challenge would be to see just how the cathinone counterpart of MDMA (3,4- methylenedioxymethcathinone) might compare in activity to MDMA. If it were to cross the BBB and be reduced to that hypothetical ephedrine analog (=O to H,OH) it might have the same potency and psychopharmacology as MDMA. So I made the compound (I called it Methylone) and by golly it has almost the same potency, but it doesn't produce the same effects. It has an almost antidepressant action, pleasant and positive, but not the unique magic of MDMA. Its properties will be given in detail in Ann's and my third book, which should be out in a couple of years.

-- Dr. Shulgin
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cary schellie said:
im not sure if i'm allowed to give the link
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Posting links to sources like that isn't allowed. Sources like that go down when they get too much attention from public sources. Hell BBB caught shit from LEO for being so popular on forums talking about DMT extraction. The plants BBB sold weren't as legally tenuous as the chems your source is selling.
 
Corbat420

Corbat420

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MDPV, M1, Mythlone, 4-Aco-Dmt are currently Legal for Research purposes i know that much..... they are not recomended for human consumption, but hey.... whats life without adventure :D


if you buy ANY of these drugs you NEED to buy a Diamond scale which will weigh 0.001>G to 1MG (0.001 g) Accuracy. taking to much of any of these is a VERY bad idea. most of the dosages are measured VERY small, such as 20 Mg.

i get my shit in the mail, from a local company. $325 for 10 Grams of MDPV... thats 400+ Hits... they sell EVERYTHING you can think of.... 2C-B, 2C-E, 2C-I, 2ct2, MDPV, 5-Meo-DMT, 4-Aco-DMT, 4-Actoxy-DIPT and Dimethocaine
 
forgetfulpenguin

forgetfulpenguin

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Corbat420 said:
if you buy ANY of these drugs you NEED to buy a Diamond scale which will weigh 0.001>G to 1MG (0.001 g) Accuracy.
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You can always build a cheap microgram balance out of a scavenged galvanometer for ~$100.

https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/equipment/scale.html
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/equipment/scale2.html
[R]ecently the organizer of our weekly outings, Greg Schmidt, realized that even this amazing performance could be improved on. Greg's design eliminates the need to adjust the needle manually: the balance automatically zeros (or "tares") and levels itself, and it can continuously track how an object changes in mass—the rate at which a single ant loses water through respiration, for instance. The result is an extremely versatile electrobalance with microgram sensitivity that can be built for less than $100.

A delightful demonstration of the sensitivity his apparatus achieves is shown in the graph at the left. Greg soaked a centimeter of fine thread in water. He then monitored its weight as the water slowly evaporated. Remarkable.
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edit: There seems to be an updated version of the article on the SAS website. hxxp://www.sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues/2004-11-12/Classics/index.html

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cary schellie said:
so it almost seems to good to be true that I can actually order this shit, is it really legal?
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Since you intend to consume it no. However I don't remember any of those being anything but CSAs so the prosecutor has to prove you intended to ingest the chemicals for it to be illegal. Unless you tell the company or hint at what you plan to do they can sell it to you with little risk of having charges stick (won't stop harassment if they get too known.)

Read the Federal Analog Act if you want to know what the law says. It's short and easy to read.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/21/802.html
Code: 
(32)
(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (C), the term “controlled substance analogue” means a substance—
(i) the chemical structure of which is substantially similar to the chemical structure of a controlled substance in schedule I or II;
(ii) which has a stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system that is substantially similar to or greater than the stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system of a controlled substance in schedule I or II; or
(iii) with respect to a particular person, which such person represents or intends to have a stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system that is substantially similar to or greater than the stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system of a controlled substance in schedule I or II.
(B) The designation of gamma butyrolactone or any other chemical as a listed chemical pursuant to paragraph (34) or (35) does not preclude a finding pursuant to subparagraph (A) of this paragraph that the chemical is a controlled substance analogue.
(C) Such term does not include—
(i) a controlled substance;
(ii) any substance for which there is an approved new drug application;
(iii) with respect to a particular person any substance, if an exemption is in effect for investigational use, for that person, under section 355 of this title to the extent conduct with respect to such substance is pursuant to such exemption; or
(iv) any substance to the extent not intended for human consumption before such an exemption takes effect with respect to that substance.
 
MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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cary schellie said:
so it almost seems to good to be true that I can actually order this shit, is it really legal?
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Technically it is illegal. The analogue act makes no sense. Anyone doing actual research with these compounds has a liscence to possess scheduled substances.
You can order real illegal drugs over the internet if you want and know where to look.
Of the chems you listed I'd recommend the 4AcO-DMT (how the hell is this one not scheduled, it's a prodrug of psilocin, that's like making diphosphorylmorphine legal but heroin illegal) and what I'm assuming is methoxetamine (methoetine in your post). I'm not a fan of stims though so most of that list just doesn't interest me.
 
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