Oregon outdoor 2019
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too larry
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BlazinDucks
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They're still growing very rapidly. Stems and leaves are lush and green, some of them are starting to unravel and open up a bit. We had a massive thunder storm here the other night that dropped a lot of hail and rain.
I've been flushing them out often, so I think it's working. Lots of flowers have been showing up on some of the varieties, and at least half are starting to form lots of new tomatoes. I'm thinking it's just excess nitrogen and a buildup of salts in the soil. Time will tell.
I've been flushing them out often, so I think it's working. Lots of flowers have been showing up on some of the varieties, and at least half are starting to form lots of new tomatoes. I'm thinking it's just excess nitrogen and a buildup of salts in the soil. Time will tell.
too larry
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That's great. My biggest Pruden's Purple tomatoes are crashing right now. I used old soil, so that might be the problem.
BlazinDucks
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Plant troubles are no fun. If it's not one thing it's another. I hope it all works out for you.
Humanrob
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Happy July everyone 
My autos keep stretching, one especially. The Alien Vs. Triangle pheno required I go higher than the tomato cages with hoops, and then reached the net again and I had to raise the hoops. Overall production will probably be pretty low because of the cool temps, but hopefully it'll warm up as they finish and they'll fatten up some. They have started to flower, I should be done by mid- to early August. I'm loving the short season autos give, but with the cold spring/early summer, this year I'm not expecting much weight. That's the downside, they are more impacted by their environment.
I've seen lots of moths flying all over the yard, even saw one land on the netting once, but I don't think any have been able to touch the plants. Keeping my fingers crossed on that one.
That was a pretty awesome storm! I'm from the NE so lightening storms are something I grew up with, but we don't get them much out here. I miss them, so it was fun to have one pass through. And some more light rain today... I suppose it's OK, less watering?
My autos keep stretching, one especially. The Alien Vs. Triangle pheno required I go higher than the tomato cages with hoops, and then reached the net again and I had to raise the hoops. Overall production will probably be pretty low because of the cool temps, but hopefully it'll warm up as they finish and they'll fatten up some. They have started to flower, I should be done by mid- to early August. I'm loving the short season autos give, but with the cold spring/early summer, this year I'm not expecting much weight. That's the downside, they are more impacted by their environment.
I've seen lots of moths flying all over the yard, even saw one land on the netting once, but I don't think any have been able to touch the plants. Keeping my fingers crossed on that one.
BlazinDucks
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How's the light penetration with the nets involved? I've thought about doing it but it would require a fully framed in area for me.
Humanrob
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I found several different nets online, most were for commercial greenhouses and listed how much light was lost through them, and my recollection was it ranged from about 22-27%. This net was from a smaller company that sold them in smaller formats (it's about 12' x 20'), but this particular one did not list the specific light loss. I suspect it's in the range of the others. We've had so much overcast and rainy weather this year, it's hard to tell if the net itself is impacting them. They don't have a lot of foliage and they seem a little stretchy to me, but I can't be sure what the cause is, probably a little of everything.
BlazinDucks
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Mine are growing like crazy, even with the overcast. It's looking like the mornings are gonna be like this for the next week at least. Good temps and afternoon sun is looking promising. Mine don't see the sun until after 11am or so, then it's sun the rest of the day.
I wouldn't mind getting nets, but I always build a rain structure come September, and it'd be a pain getting that in their along with my plastic covering.
olaf687
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Why not just leave the plastic off the greenhouse to get direct sunlight and only cover with plastic when raining or a big storm? Thats what i plan to do anyway. I live in southern oregon and the only risky months are october and november because of rain. So this is when I plan to cover the greenhouse with plastic. The rest of the summer unless a rain storm i'll just leave it open for direct sunlight.
graying.geek
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I would think that a 25% depression of available sunlight on an overcast days is causing your stretch. Should slow down as we get into the July sunshine.
My girls are doing really well this summer -- no thanx to the cloudy weather so far -- partially due to the strains, but primarily because I'm taking amendments more serious this year. In past outdoor grows I've just used the approach taught to me growing up tending the family garden, which worked fine for our fruits & veggies, but what I finally realized (duh!) is that cannabis plants can take a LOT of feeding, and even with my limited 3 hrs of direct sun, by giving them a rich supply of ACT, EWC, manure and comfrey they grow to a respectable size with nice foliage. My ladies are approaching 6 feet tall and look really healthy.
Humanrob
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Still looking forward to that July sunshine! This morning Weather Underground's radar showed clear skies... but I can tell you it was raining, and a considerable amount. Even the weather forecasters are in denial.
Outdoor feeding is an art form. I started indoors and then grew outdoors, so my first year I tried to scale my indoor feeding to the outdoor plants, and it was crazy expensive (grew some in the ground, and some in 100 gallon pots that year). The following year I tried to grow them just like the veggies, and found them going yellow pretty early in flower. Over the years I've been playing around with it and I've found a sort of hybrid approach.
This summer while getting used to the netting and drip irrigation, I've used minimal fertilizer, but it doesn't really show because the cold weather has made them grow so slowly that the plants haven't taxed the soil. I think they look pretty healthy, although sparse. I'll have to hit them again soon as the flowers start to build, just to make sure they are pushing their potentials, whatever that might be.
I have that one plant that is almost twice as big as the others. I've raised the netting again -- and it can't go any higher. If that plant reaches the net again I'll have to bend the top branches. On the other end of the row, the one that was the most stunted has sent up one long stretched shoot, and I just found it pressed up against the netting, so I bent it over. I'm not going to go to the trouble of adding another hoop for the 1/2 oz that little thing is going to produce. I'm taking notes for next year, if this grow ends worm free I'll do it again with some improvements.
graying.geek
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Well, here we go! Finally!!! Looks like excellent weather for the foreseeable future, and with a thorough rain soaking, I'm expecting my gals to explode. Don't know what it is about a good rain, but seems like it stimulates new growth that manual watering doesn't. Maybe the more even distribution and saturation does it, or perhaps just my imagination, but it seems like a real thing.
Time for a couple of questions: First, the plant that went into flower when I put it out in early May, is now making an effort to reveg, just in time to think about flowering again. Anyone know if it will stretch a second time, or should I expect it to just start producing buds?
Also, anyone have methods of connecting with other, local growers? I'd really enjoy getting together with other home growers over a cup of coffee or beer to share info, clones, seeds, pollen, etc., but not sure what resources might be available to facilitate something like this, or even what's allowed on RIU.
BlazinDucks
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Well, the sun is around to stay for a while now. Got out this morning and got the trellis nets all set up before the stretch comes. Picked up some 8ft stakes and laid some netting horizontally and vertically around the ladies. Once they stretch out another foot or two I'll put some more in there.
I was expecting these to be much taller at this point, but I didn't get my clones out until a couple weeks later this year. They're indica dominant strains as well so they'll naturally be a bit more compact. Hoping they get up around 5-6' at least. Otherwise the monster tomatoes may block more sun than im comfortable with.
All is looking pretty crazy in the garden, I can't believe how much it's taken off. Some of the tomatoes are above my head at this point. The leaf curl is still around a little bit, but they're all putting on lots of fruit so I can't complain too much.
Hope all is well in the gardens for all of you this season.
I was expecting these to be much taller at this point, but I didn't get my clones out until a couple weeks later this year. They're indica dominant strains as well so they'll naturally be a bit more compact. Hoping they get up around 5-6' at least. Otherwise the monster tomatoes may block more sun than im comfortable with.
All is looking pretty crazy in the garden, I can't believe how much it's taken off. Some of the tomatoes are above my head at this point. The leaf curl is still around a little bit, but they're all putting on lots of fruit so I can't complain too much.
Hope all is well in the gardens for all of you this season.
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Humanrob
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Not for me, not yet anyway... it's raining right now.
I'm originally from CT, moved or OR in '04. Measured in inches, CT and OR get the same amount of annual precipitation, it's just that CT gets it all year long and in many forms, and OR (up until this summer, at least in the 15 years I've been here) gets it mostly between October and May. So I'm used to getting rain all summer, but it's not what I associate with Oregon. Hey, at least fire season is postponed around me, I'm good with that.
It would be ironic if I moved to autos in order to flower mid-summer, and then got PM and/or bud rot in July!
xtsho
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Is that horseradish in the bottom left of the third photo?
BlazinDucks
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Yep it is. We have a ton of it growing in that bed. It spreads like crazy, I keep having to pull it up from around the other plants.
BlazinDucks
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I was pretty surprised to walk outside to rain this morning. I guess I spoke a bit too soon yesterday.
xtsho
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That's what I thought. That stuff is impossible to get rid of once it gets a foothold. I planted some a few years back and it's popping up everywhere. I dug it up but any little piece of root can start growing. It's still popping up all over. I've found some ten feet from where I originally planted it. That stuff will eventually burrow out of the bed and even start popping up on the other side of that fence in your neighbors yard.
Nice little garden you have going there.
BlazinDucks
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Yep, it gets around. It sure is nice come the holidays when we have fresh ground horseradish to go on the prime rib though.That's what I thought. That stuff is impossible to get rid of once it gets a foothold. I planted some a few years back and it's popping up everywhere. I dug it up but any little piece of root can start growing. It's still popping up all over. I've found some ten feet from where I originally planted it. That stuff will eventually burrow out of the bed and even start popping up on the other side of that fence in your neighbors yard.
Nice little garden you have going there.