Organic Indian Grow!!

so here she is, it has grown freely no added anything during thee full veg....it has just been there while some other plantds were growing strong in a better position a couple meters away.

i sprayed it with some nutrient water solution, it didnt like that at all. strted to get yellow leaves going to brown and falling of, same time i had that sickness with the white coming on he leaves spreading quickly. (name of disease fotgotten)

after neem oil sprayed and no more nutriton added (exccept an growtab put in the soil..) its now got my attention and im curiously observing it....GUESSING minimum 1 month to go...probl around 2..

after its recovered a little more from this i will slowly try some other stuff organic to boost the remaining time.



do you have some pic on your current stash?

great day, see ya later

Chong.IN said:

good for you. it seems this pure sativa is a real fav. among the oldschool folks, and so many people search for that puuure sativa.

yaa i agree. as with most things. back to basic india style is the way to go.

and got so many organic ways to do it around here, im just learning myself... the neem has worked magic so far..

did ya see the strainhunters north india episode if not watch it with your bro and that indica
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W2FoFrzrhs

after a while they posted some pieace on south india as well, text only but dont know the link..

on another note as it turns out i actually HAVE TO get soil and water testing equipment (the real deal portable lab thing), need it for work. haha somtimes life smiles u right in your face

Now im going checking on the seeds in germ, the promised pic of the christmas tree sativa in the backyard will be first up tomorrow.

Peace!

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Chong bro,

It all happened very fast. The Indica seeds (which i think) have germinated. The leaves are not yet out and when it comes I'll show the pic I have been busy with some work..while the plantlet which was stunted for a while took a miracle grow not the product, new leaves are emerging. So it's me and the Indian strains.....

Chong.IN said:

so here she is, it has grown freely no added anything during thee full veg....it has just been there while some other plantds were growing strong in a better position a couple meters away.
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i sprayed it with some nutrient water solution, it didnt like that at all. strted to get yellow leaves going to brown and falling of, same time i had that sickness with the white coming on he leaves spreading quickly. (name of disease fotgotten)

after neem oil sprayed and no more nutriton added (exccept an growtab put in the soil..) its now got my attention and im curiously observing it....GUESSING minimum 1 month to go...probl around 2..

after its recovered a little more from this i will slowly try some other stuff organic to boost the remaining time.

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do you have some pic on your current stash?

great day, see ya later

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Coolio bro!!

The plant looks amazing! Little afraid of thinking this tall tree is what I am trying to indoor-ize Success or failure, I am going to learn a thing or two. Now there are more than three people thinking of our grow, besides me and my bros. Both of them and myself think a lot about our grow and making decisions seemed confusing. Now with the help of everyone here, there's hope to our plants


So that said, indica has sprouted, hopefully the leaves will decide.

I was too busy with my work and I wanted to know what will happen to a plant if it's growth was obstructed with a non-harmful fungal mat just kidding..lol..

While I was adding my Tricho boost a layer of it covered the top of my young plant and the plant was unable to grow for a while. I didn't remove it, just wanted to see what will happen.

This happened....




I am assuming that the plant knew it's first set of leaves were gone, so it opted to open up another node? maybe it acted like FIMing? Looks like a butterfly or a man with wings kinda figure. It looks awesome though. Hope it will form new branching.

The supposedly Indica is sprouting by the way, am excited. Me and my bro were examining the seeds with a 10x lens, the Sativa seeds has a mosaic like uneven pattern. The Indica has a network like pattern, which looks like black dots from a distance. I'll post the pics of the seed soon.

Here's the rest of the grow,



The wilted plant (from left) ,the butterfly plant ling, then the rest of them(been over two weeks). First week was the fungal inoculation which stopped growth for a while.



One sprouted (guess sativa) one is waiting to come up.


So far, lost one plant due to excess moisture in soil. (learned so many things from her)

I'll post the pic when Indica sprouts.


Love n Peace,

Toker

Nice

Had some plans to try it indoor last year, were thinking of doing a scrog, just putting some net over it and let it spread under an board of good tubes, lighttube market got plenty to offer.. since it grows what seems forever it would probably be enough with one under the net... perhaps i will get back that inspiration (and space possibilities)


today i picked up some 23w cfl spirals,reflector material and sockets electrics etc, gonna use them for the first 3 weeks of veg. gives me more time to plan a decent flower room, my only thing bugging me is electricity, ...3 weeks time i should work it out by then.

2 unknown europe (commercial) seeds are now in the pots, germed after only 7h in paper tissue ..

Happy 4:20 !

What about scrog for outside? perhaps something to try if uve got seeds and space to experiemnt

Chong.IN said:

What about scrog for outside? perhaps something to try if uve got seeds and space to experiemnt

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Pass that blunt chong bro!!

Howdy mate so things are coming around pretty fast huh! Good luck with your grow man. You got germ within 7h in paper towels huh? Nice..what was the temperature like. For me, keepin in 25 degrees, it took 2 days in paper towel method. But the seed handling cost me a lot. It's very fragile na, am stoned mostly so..

I had trouble with the power yesterday. Lights were out pretty much whole day. Hope my plants slept nicely.. Seems like indica will take two days to pop up. I could see the root seeking out water, cool!

Since my parents do a lot of gardening and i have seen them doing similar things to LST. So i'll be doing the LST indoors. Maybe i'll talk to me bro about scrog outside. Heck i been thinking of doing indica outdoors, in the wild. Hope it'll require much less space. Everything depends on Mr.Sun and his lumens now.

Growing organic has its difficulties, still it's much satisfying.

Keep me posted about your grow and drop the link when you start. Am subscribed already

Peace out brotha!

ahh got me thinking about the flavoured blunts i used to buy for rolling, good stuff

yes 7 h was express, however now im waiting very much for it to show itself to the sun. after putting it in the potts i found myself sitting just next to it..waiting... haha perhaps some instinct of some kind.....maybe i can also blame it on being high most of the time ;p
i put the tissue wrap inside a dvd case and placed it under the stabilizer for the fridge ,
when im better with the soilmixing i shall start to plant straight in the pot instead...just feels more right someway

with the local seeds ive also got 2 days somtimes up to 5..

aight the LST should be great , i once had a friend lst a plant in his garden, he got it to blend in perfect.. no way anyone would have noticed it during a normal garden glance! he keept it very near the ground going around some other "normal" plants..

sorry to hear about the lights, hope you are back on track.
on my wishlist for now is a seperate batteri for the growing..i had som offert made to make my place fully solar powered,,high power storage model, but first cost high for that specific model so gotta wait a while for that, another dream is a household windturbin, or why not a hybrid solar/wind setup..... ok stopping right there before getting way up in the air.

returning to waiting next to the potts haha.


Peace!

ahh and about the indicas outside, try it!

if you compare the climate from the area it came from maybe u could find the time when your current season offers some similiar traits or at least not totally crazy different, temp, rains, etc etc
just an thought..


by the way when is rainy season finished at your place??

Chong.IN said:

ahh and about the indicas outside, try it!

if you compare the climate from the area it came from maybe u could find the time when your current season offers some similiar traits or at least not totally crazy different, temp, rains, etc etc
just an thought..


by the way when is rainy season finished at your place??

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Rainy season will finish by August, so will be putting up some nursery raised indicas outside along with some sativas. Was thinking of topping them, keep it short for outside. The plants kept outside by my bro is suffering from rain and heavy wind. My other bro is all ready to do lst as well as topping on what we have indoors.

Dream big bro! If we are calling ourselves organic growers, the name will be complete only if we generate our own power. Solar is the way to go, maybe after a few years we can afford it.

Will LST take much time? Maybe I can start from seedling stage itself. Gotta learn more and read more.


Wish we could sit in the jungle along with our plants, my bros and get high like the kite

Keep growing them cannas..aight bro!!

Love and

Toker.

aight carry on the learning by doing,

i have not tried lst myself so no input on that one...hope you hit some jackpot..will be copyiing u if you do

djungle campout in wilderness, 5 kind of weed 3 kind of charras what could go wrong? Better prepare a lot of coolers with munchies thats for sure.

ok over and out lets see whats tomorrow got to give

YO . slow day. "area cut" full day with no current batteries went dead after 5h. lucky not to be growing indoor yet...

nothing happening in the pots. or at least not above ground

just for curiosity How long time do you have on average of seed popping in soil?

hmmm thinking of good way to try to give my outdoor plant some boost, im thinking of adding some banana peel ashes or coconut to see if theres some boos...still got some problem with yelloing leaves and loss of big fanleaves..Got any input on that?

Peace.

Chong.IN said:

aight carry on the learning by doing,

i have not tried lst myself so no input on that one...hope you hit some jackpot..will be copyiing u if you do

djungle campout in wilderness, 5 kind of weed 3 kind of charras what could go wrong? Better prepare a lot of coolers with munchies thats for sure.

ok over and out lets see whats tomorrow got to give

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Sup bro!

What's happening man! I got success in getting some new roots in my plant. Me and my bro layered some soil around our plant's stem. Bro's idea was to see if we could initiate proper rooting with our soil mix. Trichoderma did its job! I'll post da pics later. Currently power is down, so depending on scarce sunlight for growth.

Trippin in da jungle wud be harsh bro! There are hell a lot of wild animals out there who wont be stoned like us..so they have to be careful

Is your outdoor now in flowering? Heard when it's flowering you can see leaves being eaten up pretty fast. Maybe ask somebody with pics, the experienced farmers will know for sure.

Inputs for outdoor..give neem cake cowdung mix if you get some. Dont apply fresh ones bro, let it mix and set for few days. Properly composted would be great idea. Neem cake is a good nitrogen source. I only have neem oil though. If you can see any worm castings above the soil, get them too.

Giving mulch gives food for good soil microbes as well. All these info are from other people's experience on canna, i have only tried it on vegetables

You should also try a fungus called Trichoderma. They enhance root growth and fix nitrogen. When you start a new grow, try mixing tricho in the potting soil.



Am still in the darkness, some trouble with our connection. Dark for ma plants, just a bit of sunshine through the window.

Gotta go bro! Take care of yourself and your plants brotha!

Peace out!

Toker.

yo, unfortunalty i had some busy times. I thought i would try to put the ots outside weather been very european for some days. well it changed and the strong sun i guess burned my seed. it was only two so no biggie. new one put straight in soil and will be under cfl as soon as they break the soil..

the local landrace had a fight with a monkey yesterday...or to be correct the moneky had a fight with the plant!
it broke about halfways not fully breaking but being so tall its no chans to hold up, i taped it with some electric tape put some support and now im just waiting to see if its recover....i will post on some help out threads tpday tp see what the oppionion on this specififc case... i get back with some post later! peace

Loffin my freakin arse off

Chong.IN said:

yo, unfortunalty i had some busy times. I thought i would try to put the ots outside weather been very european for some days. well it changed and the strong sun i guess burned my seed. it was only two so no biggie. new one put straight in soil and will be under cfl as soon as they break the soil..

the local landrace had a fight with a monkey yesterday...or to be correct the moneky had a fight with the plant!
it broke about halfways not fully breaking but being so tall its no chans to hold up, i taped it with some electric tape put some support and now im just waiting to see if its recover....i will post on some help out threads tpday tp see what the oppionion on this specififc case... i get back with some post later! peace

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Man! So sorry to hear that about your plant. Cow, deer, goat etc were my main enemies, but not monkeys till now. Why can't you take cuttings from the plant and plant em seperate?

Things were bad, for me and my plants. Sick weather and sick me.. I lost two plants already.

Now 3 plants remaining. Hope the sun will come up shining. More than 80 days of rain now.

Take care bro.

Peace and love,
Toker.

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Loffin my freakin arse off

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Good thing man! Wish I could too...

Hey bro nice little grow you got there. Its awesome to see that there are some indoor organic cannabis growers in India. I guarantee you, that once you have things dialed in and running smoothly, your going to be blowing people's minds by how good your bud is. I just wanted to pass on a little tip that I think will solve most of the problems your having. Cann has already made mention of this above, however it's something of utmost importance when growing in soil. I'm referring to the addition of an aeration amendment to your soil, such as perlite (expanded rock), rice hulls, or horticultural stones such as lava rock or pumice. If you cant find any of these, you may want to go outside and see if you can find any small POROUS rocks that you could use instead, you could gather those up and use them, however you do not want you use any rocks that are solid like river rocks or pebbles, they HAVE to be porous so that they can absorb water and store air. The soil that you've mixed sounds very diverse, however, it's EXTREMELY important to have a good amount of aeration in your soil to maintain a healthy root zone and to keep you from overwatering, while maintaining a normal wet/dry cycle. Around 1/3 (33%) of the total volume of your soil should be an aeration amendment, so as to loosen up the dirt, providing easier drainage while giving the roots adequate space to grow and spread easily throughout the soil. You seem to be learning and picking up on things quickly, so I'd be willing to bet that after you've added an aeration amendment to your soil, it wont be long before your producing amazing quality cannabis that all of the stoners in India will be dying to get there hands on.

Also, I would recommend getting yourself some kelp meal and alfalfa meal, if you can. They're both great additions that will feed your plants and improve the quality of your soil. I'd also strongly recommend inoculating your soil with mycorrhizae, along side, or even in place of the trichoderma that your using, especially since you aren't brewing any compost teas. Mycorrhizae are bacteria that increase nutrient uptake and play a HUGE role in maintaining a healthy and vibrant root zone. Essentially when growing organically, microbes, bacteria, and fungi, are what feed our plants. The bacteria and fungi consume organic matter and also consume each other. Then, they shit out plant food, for lack of a better term. The first step in becoming a skilled organic grower is becoming aware of the soil-food web and learning exactly how it works. When you start to really get a handle on things, you might want to look into the ROLS No-Till method. This particular method of growing costs almost nothing to undertake and produces the highest quality cannabis that one could possibly hope to achieve. I don't think that your at that point yet, as it does require a little bit of experience and know-how, however, I think that it would be a perfect method for you to use when you really get the hang of things. Anyway, the most important thing for you to do right now, is to add an aeration amendment to your soil as soon as possible. Your going to be AMAZED at how fast things turn around once you get that soil loosened up.

Thank you all for your views and feedbacks till now. I was out of station for a week and the plants remaining is just one indoors and two out.

Heavy rain, no power, high humidity took my plants for a ride. Beside ma bro's best attempts, only three now remains.

Thank you SFK bro for ua headsup, i should have thought about it. Drainage was the killer!

I know that I compromised on the lighting and aeration when I look at the plants outside.

Now the sun is up after 80 days of rain and my outdoor plants are doing well. The indoor one is the oldest, but its growth is slow as light is low. I have collected porous rocks to be put in. Pics comin soon. I've learned a lot through my first grow and am not gonna repeat the mistakes I made this time. As long as these 3 plants are alive, I'll keep this thread alive. Am not gonna give up, I know it's hard to beat the conditions outside without the proper equipment.

I went through the no-till method, but it aint time yet. I have more to learn, more to read and learn by experimenting.

So far, neem oil and neem cake along with foliar of microbes has given me hope. My next venture is outdoors. Was planning to do an outdoor grow, but what about flowering? Will i get a harvest in October? SFK bro, thank you for your inputs..they are very valuable.

Wish there were more organic growes in here

eace: n love,

Toker.