Organic soil fertilizers to bring out the full flavor of cannabis?

Yodaweed

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ButchyBoy

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Here is my set up for brewing. Fits in a 5 gallon bucket. Super simple, works great and no air stones to clean. Don't glue it together so you can take it apart and clean it. You can see the air pump hanging there. I had to add the small adjustable valve to create enough back pressure to quiet down the pump. I used 1-1/4" pvc and 1/2" hose for the air.

Good aact in 24 hours and great aact in 48.

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DonBrennon

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Neem is antifungal.
I'm not having a go, but I've seen this stated before somewhere, Neem is not anti-fungal, it may be effective against pm, for some other reason, but try sprinkling a thin layer over your soil and watch what happens after watering. You'll get a web of fungal hyphea over your soil within a day or two. How can that be anti-fungal?
 

Olive Drab Green

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I'm not having a go, but I've seen this stated before somewhere, Neem is not anti-fungal, it may be effective against pm, for some other reason, but try sprinkling a thin layer over your soil and watch what happens after watering. You'll get a web of fungal hyphea over your soil within a day or two. How can that be anti-fungal?
It's actually pretty commonly stated that nimonol is an antifungal.
 

DonBrennon

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It's actually pretty commonly stated that nimonol is an antifungal.
Yeah, nimonol as an isolated extract from neem leaves......................there are probably other anti-fungal terpenes in there to. ...........but we're not talking isolated extracts or scientific studies here, we're talking neem meal and in my 'experience', as a whole, it is not anti-fungal, fungus loves the stuff. Try it
 

Olive Drab Green

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Yeah, nimonol as an isolated extract from neem leaves......................there are probably other anti-fungal terpenes in there to. ...........but we're not talking isolated extracts or scientific studies here, we're talking neem meal and in my 'experience', as a whole, it is not anti-fungal, fungus loves the stuff. Try it
If the extract contains the properties, why, too, would the plant not?
 

DonBrennon

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Yeah, nimonol as an isolated extract from neem leaves......................there are probably other anti-fungal terpenes in there to. ...........but we're not talking isolated extracts or scientific studies here, we're talking neem meal and in my 'experience', as a whole, it is not anti-fungal, fungus loves the stuff. Try it
Shit.....let your bag of neem meal get damp, you'll soon defo see how much fungus likes it
 

DonBrennon

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I'm guessing a little on the theory here, I'm not a scientist..................but I do know what fungus growing on neem meal looks like, I've seen it on multiple occasions.

A lot of facts we read simple aren't true, which is why it's better to learn from experiences, as opposed to blindly following what somebody else tells you is true
 

greasemonkeymann

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It says on the back of the box its 3% chlorine.

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i'll be damned
learned something!
thank you my friend, it's been a bit
that would make sense though, my box got rained on, so i tossed it out, course my bag of langbeinite is like a decade old
that being said i use about a palmful, per cubic foot or so, in my original mix, haven't re-amended with it since.
i sorta look at it like Epsom salts plus sulfur (and evidently chlorine)
i like the stuff though..
 

greasemonkeymann

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A lot of facts we read simple aren't true, which is why it's better to learn from experiences, as opposed to blindly following what somebody else tells you is true
EXCELLENT quote!
also many things are true in certain environments..
and not in others, science is cool like that, change one variable and POOF everything is totally different
 

greasemonkeymann

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Yeah I thought it was good shit too, but a good friend that does organic told me it contains high levels of chlorine and not to use it.
ok.. so I now know WAY more about chlorine than I ever thought I would need to.
so we are thinking elemental chlorine (like swimming pools)
ionic chlorine is TOTALLY different.
elemental chlorine is not solid in atmospheric states
chloride ions is like the stuff that's in salt and such.
Good to know.
one is necessary for growth (chloride ions, which are the kind in langbeinite)
and the other is toxic
interesting shit huh?
so langbeinite is totally good/safe to use man.
obviously sparingly

thank you again for exposing me to more shit I didn't know.
 

Yodaweed

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ok.. so I now know WAY more about chlorine than I ever thought I would need to.
so we are thinking elemental chlorine (like swimming pools)
ionic chlorine is TOTALLY different.
elemental chlorine is not solid in atmospheric states
chloride ions is like the stuff that's in salt and such.
Good to know.
one is necessary for growth (chloride ions, which are the kind in langbeinite)
and the other is toxic
interesting shit huh?
so langbeinite is totally good/safe to use man.
obviously sparingly

thank you again for exposing me to more shit I didn't know.
Oh nice, I did not know that, thanks for doing that research for me bud, makes me feel a lot better using the stuff, how about rock phosphate, I have also heard to stay away from that you hear anything about rock phosphate?
 

greasemonkeymann

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Oh nice, I did not know that, thanks for doing that research for me bud, makes me feel a lot better using the stuff, how about rock phosphate, I have also heard to stay away from that you hear anything about rock phosphate?
I don't know of many reasons to NOT use the stuff, I suppose azomite is technically a rock phosphate, and I don't like that one much, only because I go through extensive composting, and the acids involved can make the aluminum in azomite readily absorbed by the soil mix, and hence the uptake of it by the plant
the only thing that I have issues with is granite dust, and that's only because approx. 5% of granite naturally contains radioactive elements (I think a form of uranium?)
so 5% is 1 out of 20 pieces of granite... and obviously it would be foolish for us to assume it's all (dust) comprised from one piece of granite
--side note--- my shop is RIGHT next to a granite/marble cutter, hence my odd knowledge on the subject.
I use soft rock phosphate, for my phosphates, I use it lightly though.
And I don't reamend with minerals, or at least I haven't in 5 yrs or so
well, I did on my compost pile, but i'm making MORE soil not re-amending
in a perfect world i'd use glacial dust, more variety in those, from what I hear/read.
I do use greensand, but don't view that as a phosphate source
 

Yodaweed

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I don't know of many reasons to NOT use the stuff, I suppose azomite is technically a rock phosphate, and I don't like that one much, only because I go through extensive composting, and the acids involved can make the aluminum in azomite readily absorbed by the soil mix, and hence the uptake of it by the plant
the only thing that I have issues with is granite dust, and that's only because approx. 5% of granite naturally contains radioactive elements (I think a form of uranium?)
so 5% is 1 out of 20 pieces of granite... and obviously it would be foolish for us to assume it's all (dust) comprised from one piece of granite
--side note--- my shop is RIGHT next to a granite/marble cutter, hence my odd knowledge on the subject.
I use soft rock phosphate, for my phosphates, I use it lightly though.
And I don't reamend with minerals, or at least I haven't in 5 yrs or so
well, I did on my compost pile, but i'm making MORE soil not re-amending
in a perfect world i'd use glacial dust, more variety in those, from what I hear/read.
I do use greensand, but don't view that as a phosphate source
Ok cool, i'm gonna continue my methods, which are using rock phosphate, and langbeinte to make my mix, I also use green sand, great source of silica. I don't reamend with minerals either, so I might be doing ok. Check out this Glacial Dust this is what I been using as well as brix blend basalt.

http://buildasoil.com/collections/minerals/products/glacial-rock-dust

http://buildasoil.com/collections/minerals/products/rock-dust-local-premium-basalt
 

greasemonkeymann

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Ok cool, i'm gonna continue my methods, which are using rock phosphate, and langbeinte to make my mix, I also use green sand, great source of silica. I don't reamend with minerals either, so I might be doing ok. Check out this Glacial Dust this is what I been using as well as brix blend basalt.

http://buildasoil.com/collections/minerals/products/glacial-rock-dust

http://buildasoil.com/collections/minerals/products/rock-dust-local-premium-basalt
that basalt i'd be ALLLL over man
good shit
 

DonBrennon

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that basalt i'd be ALLLL over man
good shit
Volcanic rock dust is all I can get..................Shiiiiiiite.....................LOL, ok it's the only one I can buy, but I believe it's probably one of the best out of all the rock dust's touted.

I also believe in diversity though.....................would shale rock dust be any good? there is some loose shale rock at the bottom of a cliff in the nearby valley, it's quite easily ground down in a pestle and mortar and my meal worms like it as much as the volcanic dust, meal worms do seem to eat anything though, so I'm not sure that's anything to go by.
 
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