ORGANIGRAM 21.2% THC Organic ECOcert MONGOLIAN INDICA

INFLATION due to big EGO Looks like Organigram has money clouding judgment. They boast 22.9 Mongolian and the prices are 6-12$. They want to charge $12 for a gram. I&I saw this coming and warned everyone. So the greed now will be their downfall. Can anyone guess how I&I will deal with this? Sad thing is now there is no producer worth recommending.

Peter Tosh Equal Rights said:

ORGANIC food always tastes better. The natural flavours are pronounced when grown organically. My Organic oatmeal is full of wonderful flavour when eaten as is. Regular chemical fertilizer oatmeal is completely bland?
SIDE BY SIDE tests of identical cannabis clones show that there are many more Terpenes and Bioflavaniods Present and in higher amounts in organic Cannabis as opposed to Chemically fertilized. Please do some quantitative research before stating well known facts. Anyone can mess up a batch of cannabis and lose the smell completely.
TWEED HAS NOW SHOWN THAT THE GREENHOUSE HAS FAILED COMPLETELY. The fourth release is irradiated as are the first 3 greenhouse releases. Patients be advised to avoid the greenhouse crop completely.

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Organic tasting better is a myth. Check out this Penn & Teller Bullshit video debunking organics tasting better.

Also having more terpenes in organic soil isnt true. Here is a greenhouse seeds video where they compare the soil and hydro grow. The comparison isnt done to prove right or wrong the hydro/organic methods. Its just a lab analysis done at the end of the video to give info. Forward to about 14:19. Notice that the hydro grow in this specific case has a much more robust terpene profile. Its not always the case that hydro has a more robust profile, but it certainly isnt the case that earth has many more terpenes

GrowTeam said:

Organic tasting better is a myth. Check out this Penn & Teller Bullshit video debunking organics tasting better.

Also having more terpenes in organic soil isnt true. Here is a greenhouse seeds video where they compare the soil and hydro grow. The comparison isnt done to prove right or wrong the hydro/organic methods. Its just a lab analysis done at the end of the video to give info. Forward to about 14:19. Notice that the hydro grow in this specific case has a much more robust terpene profile. Its not always the case that hydro has a more robust profile, but it certainly isnt the case that earth has many more terpenes

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Welcome to Jamrock Junior Grower LP. You will never learn how to grow with that attitude that you and your heavy metal chemical salt fertilizers are superior to mother nature. Reference to pseudo organic examples proves you will never Overstand. You think with your high tech ppm meter you have control over mother nature? Take a drink of your fertilizer that you think the plant requires. I&I will drink the rain. Urea comes from Urine... Nice Terpenes your smoking.

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Welcome to Jamrock Junior Grower LP. You will never learn how to grow with that attitude that you and your heavy metal chemical salt fertilizers are superior to mother nature. Reference to pseudo organic examples proves you will never Overstand. You think with your high tech ppm meter you have control over mother nature? Take a drink of your fertilizer that you think the plant requires. I&I will drink the rain. Urea comes from Urine... Nice Terpenes your smoking.View attachment 3371079

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I have been growing for twelve years. And from experience my opinion is that the grow medium isnt enough to dictate the outcome.

Number one factor in determining great cannabis is....the genetic potential of the plant. Two would be environment. Can you provide an environment to pull out that lovely plants genetic potential? Soil can for sure. So can hydroponics. Neither is superior. Post harvest handling is critical.

Heavy chemical salt fertilizers? Wow. There are heavy metals in many organic soils. There are salt levels so high in some manure that you will kill your plants. Chemical elements are natural. Nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium where created by stars and seeded throughout the universe. They are chemical elements. The earth doesn't make it. Neither do humans. We may derive the nitrogen from a molecule its bound to in a lab. But the soil environment does something similar when bacteria break down molecules and allow the nitrogen to be available. Even in your soil grown, your plants are eating the chemical elements. No such thing as organic nitrogen.

As far as taking a drink of the fertilizer. No I wouldn't do that because its toxic to humans. Just like drinking a cup of compost aerated tea is toxic to humans. Drink a cup of chicken manure and your in trouble.

I suggest a low urea fertilizer source for your nitrogen. Cannabis prefers nitrate nitrogen anyways.

Dont be such a snob man. There is lots of marketing behind organics. Its not superior or inferior. Just another grow method.

Thats my two cents.

GrowTeam said:

I have been growing for twelve years. And from experience my opinion is that the grow medium isnt enough to dictate the outcome.

Number one factor in determining great cannabis is....the genetic potential of the plant. Two would be environment. Can you provide an environment to pull out that lovely plants genetic potential? Soil can for sure. So can hydroponics. Neither is superior. Post harvest handling is critical.

Heavy chemical salt fertilizers? Wow. There are heavy metals in many organic soils. There are salt levels so high in some manure that you will kill your plants. Chemical elements are natural. Nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium where created by stars and seeded throughout the universe. They are chemical elements. The earth doesn't make it. Neither do humans. We may derive the nitrogen from a molecule its bound to in a lab. But the soil environment does something similar when bacteria break down molecules and allow the nitrogen to be available. Even in your soil grown, your plants are eating the chemical elements. No such thing as organic nitrogen.

As far as taking a drink of the fertilizer. No I wouldn't do that because its toxic to humans. Just like drinking a cup of compost aerated tea is toxic to humans. Drink a cup of chicken manure and your in trouble.

I suggest a low urea fertilizer source for your nitrogen. Cannabis prefers nitrate nitrogen anyways.

Dont be such a snob man. There is lots of marketing behind organics. Its not superior or inferior. Just another grow method.

Thats my two cents.

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Well said.

Itsme.

GrowTeam said:

I have been growing for twelve years. And from experience my opinion is that the grow medium isnt enough to dictate the outcome.

Number one factor in determining great cannabis is....the genetic potential of the plant. Two would be environment. Can you provide an environment to pull out that lovely plants genetic potential? Soil can for sure. So can hydroponics. Neither is superior. Post harvest handling is critical.

Heavy chemical salt fertilizers? Wow. There are heavy metals in many organic soils. There are salt levels so high in some manure that you will kill your plants. Chemical elements are natural. Nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium where created by stars and seeded throughout the universe. They are chemical elements. The earth doesn't make it. Neither do humans. We may derive the nitrogen from a molecule its bound to in a lab. But the soil environment does something similar when bacteria break down molecules and allow the nitrogen to be available. Even in your soil grown, your plants are eating the chemical elements. No such thing as organic nitrogen.

As far as taking a drink of the fertilizer. No I wouldn't do that because its toxic to humans. Just like drinking a cup of compost aerated tea is toxic to humans. Drink a cup of chicken manure and your in trouble.

I suggest a low urea fertilizer source for your nitrogen. Cannabis prefers nitrate nitrogen anyways.

Dont be such a snob man. There is lots of marketing behind organics. Its not superior or inferior. Just another grow method.

Thats my two cents.

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Thanks for explaining yourself. I&I give you credit for standing up for what you believe in. Now onto the points. No amount of Urine is needed to grow cannabis. No amount of heavy metals are needed. If a leaf of cannabis is juiced from your plant is it safe for human consumption? You said your fertilizer is toxic to humans. The plant drinks what you feed it. If you juice them you will be drinking your toxic fertilizers.

Please don't feed the trolls, this guy doesn't know his asshole from a hole in the ground.
It's obvious he's just trolling looking for attention. I almost feel sorry for him.

Itsme.

itsmehigh said:

Please don't feed the trolls, this guy doesn't know his asshole from a hole in the ground.
It's obvious he's just trolling looking for attention. I almost feel sorry for him.

Itsme.

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His brain hurts

tosh may suffers from psychosis, from smoking bad urb

Peter Tosh Equal Rights said:

Stop arguing with truth and go get signed. All the grandfathered MMAR gardens I created didn't waste time arguing with me. I am teaching the easy way to add LPs and if you don't want it don't get it. This info is for those who want a solution. I have done it and so can you. This is about freedom of choice. Print the forms and bring them to the doctor. If doctor is against freedom of choice then put the doctor's name here and I&I will give their office a phone call and/or letter. Stop the oppression of freedom.
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This "info" is pure propaganda.

Your motives are pretty transparent... spending all this time bashing all companies but the one your affiliated with.

People can search your posts.... not hard to see we have an asshat on our hands.

Left the douchebaggery proceed.


Ive known a few Rasta... none of them have been blatent douches spreading hearsay n bullshit.

Keep on posing

hydroMD said:

This "info" is pure propaganda.

Your motives are pretty transparent... spending all this time bashing all companies but the one your affiliated with.

People can search your posts.... not hard to see we have an asshat on our hands.

Left the douchebaggery proceed.


Ive known a few Rasta... none of them have been blatent douches spreading hearsay n bullshit.

Keep on posing

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Think its coincidence that EVERYONE that responds to ANY of your posts calls you out? Then proceeds to try and give you some insight to the fact that no one likes you or your illogical stances on the company your affiliated with vs. Competition

hydroMD said:

Think its coincidence that EVERYONE that responds to ANY of your posts calls you out? Then proceeds to try and give you some insight to the fact that no one likes you or your illogical stances on the company your affiliated with vs. Competition

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Your name Hydro indicates you grow with chemical fertilizers. No defense of your Urine and heavy metals flowing through your plants? Would you drink a juiced leaf taken from your plants taken randomly during the growth cycle? No because the juice is toxic as are your fertilizers. You grow Ornamental not Medical sonny bwoy. Welcome to reality. Lose the MD.

Peter Tosh Equal Rights said:

Your name Hydro indicates you grow with chemical fertilizers. No defense of your Urine and heavy metals flowing through your plants? Would you drink a juiced leaf taken from your plants taken randomly during the growth cycle? No because the juice is toxic as are your fertilizers. You grow Ornamental not Medical sonny bwoy. Welcome to reality. Lose the MD.View attachment 3371657

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Im one of the few that seem to run organic DWC. Keep trolling noob!!! Hydro doesnt need to be synthetic if you know what your doing.

You obviously dont though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everytime you post you sound even dumber. Just pulling arguments out of thin air!! Get a life bitch!

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Your name Hydro indicates you grow with chemical fertilizers. No defense of your Urine and heavy metals flowing through your plants? Would you drink a juiced leaf taken from your plants taken randomly during the growth cycle? No because the juice is toxic as are your fertilizers. You grow Ornamental not Medical sonny bwoy. Welcome to reality. Lose the MD.View attachment 3371657

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Peter I think you have a serious misunderstanding about "chemical" and "organic" compounds. Heavy metals and urea can be found in both organic and inorganic fertilizers. You can easily purchase nitrate nitrogen based fertilizers that have no urea or heavy metals. A guaranteed analysis and strict government regulations on fertilizers makes it easy to lookup online. Avoid the heavy metals and urea. Its not hard in 2015 to do this. Its a different story with bottled juices like advanced nutrients. They are sold as a supplement in many places to avoid the government regulations on fertilizers.

As far as there being "chemicals" in the leaves. Im not sure what chemicals your talking about. Organically grown cannabis is up taking the exact same chemical elements as the inorganically grown. Nutrients are just chemical elements. Water is a CHEMICAL COMPOUND. Nobody says a plant is grown chemically if you give it water. Yet water IS A CHEMICAL COMPOUND. Plants need basic chemical elements (Nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, etc...) to create more complex molecules. Such as chlorophyll and later cannabinoids and terpenes.

Whats food for plants isnt always food for humans. If you take a cup full of the organic soil, which could contain bat guano, fish emulsion, bone meal, billions of bacteria, and you eat that then your going to have a problem. You cant eat that stuff. Its toxic to humans.

Im new here and I can't tell if your trolling or if your serious.

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I'm new here and I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're serious.

>>well said, and we will not know until he tells us...

I thought about letting him in on this, but with my experience, knowledge is not something well received with this one

GrowTeam said:

Peter I think you have a serious misunderstanding about "chemical" and "organic" compounds. Heavy metals and urea can be found in both organic and inorganic fertilizers. You can easily purchase nitrate nitrogen based fertilizers that have no urea or heavy metals. A guaranteed analysis and strict government regulations on fertilizers makes it easy to lookup online. Avoid the heavy metals and urea. Its not hard in 2015 to do this. Its a different story with bottled juices like advanced nutrients. They are sold as a supplement in many places to avoid the government regulations on fertilizers.

As far as there being "chemicals" in the leaves. Im not sure what chemicals your talking about. Organically grown cannabis is up taking the exact same chemical elements as the inorganically grown. Nutrients are just chemical elements. Water is a CHEMICAL COMPOUND. Nobody says a plant is grown chemically if you give it water. Yet water IS A CHEMICAL COMPOUND. Plants need basic chemical elements (Nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, etc...) to create more complex molecules. Such as chlorophyll and later cannabinoids and terpenes.

Whats food for plants isnt always food for humans. If you take a cup full of the organic soil, which could contain bat guano, fish emulsion, bone meal, billions of bacteria, and you eat that then your going to have a problem. You cant eat that stuff. Its toxic to humans.

Im new here and I can't tell if your trolling or if your serious.

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Welcome, glad to have you here.

Peter Tosh Equal Rights said:

Your name Hydro indicates you grow with chemical fertilizers. No defense of your Urine and heavy metals flowing through your plants? Would you drink a juiced leaf taken from your plants taken randomly during the growth cycle? No because the juice is toxic as are your fertilizers. You grow Ornamental not Medical sonny bwoy. Welcome to reality. Lose the MD.View attachment 3371657

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"Ornamental" organic.
Weird... it doesnt resemble the brown 'organic' nug you posted at all

GrowTeam said:

I have been growing for twelve years. And from experience my opinion is that the grow medium isnt enough to dictate the outcome.

Number one factor in determining great cannabis is....the genetic potential of the plant. Two would be environment. Can you provide an environment to pull out that lovely plants genetic potential? Soil can for sure. So can hydroponics. Neither is superior. Post harvest handling is critical.

Heavy chemical salt fertilizers? Wow. There are heavy metals in many organic soils. There are salt levels so high in some manure that you will kill your plants. Chemical elements are natural. Nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium where created by stars and seeded throughout the universe. They are chemical elements. The earth doesn't make it. Neither do humans. We may derive the nitrogen from a molecule its bound to in a lab. But the soil environment does something similar when bacteria break down molecules and allow the nitrogen to be available. Even in your soil grown, your plants are eating the chemical elements. No such thing as organic nitrogen.

As far as taking a drink of the fertilizer. No I wouldn't do that because its toxic to humans. Just like drinking a cup of compost aerated tea is toxic to humans. Drink a cup of chicken manure and your in trouble.

I suggest a low urea fertilizer source for your nitrogen. Cannabis prefers nitrate nitrogen anyways.

Dont be such a snob man. There is lots of marketing behind organics. Its not superior or inferior. Just another grow method.

Thats my two cents.

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High five dude.