outdoor guy moving indoors and not f****** around

Figured I'd do a grow journal for future reference. I'm always looking back at my old posts going back to 2011 to remember details of my outdoor grows, but never did a journal.
In a nutshell, I took a machete to my 42 outdoor plants this July to save my marriage. I neglected to tell the wife where I was earning the money to afford our family a good life for the last 7 years.
Looking back, I probably should have negotiated with her before murdering this year's crop, but that was the ultimatum I was given.
Fast forward 2 months and the reality of living off my wage has given her a drastic change of heart.
Now I'm putting the same dedication, research and hard work that I put into the outdoors as I have outdoor.
My initial goal is a solid 2+ pound harvest before Christmas. Followed by a 3 pound harvest every 8 weeks that follow. Quality is not a issue. I always have and always will grow the best bud available in my neck of the woods.
Originally I planned on going with a ebb and flow setup. I still might in the future but I came across a cheap aeroflo2 60 site that I feel suits my needs better. At least to start.
I have the aeroflo, 3, 1000 watt switchable ballasts with reflector hoods and 3 large carbon filters. I converted a dehumidifier into a water chiller for the 40 gallon Reservoir, rigged a drinking fountain thermostat switch to it. It's kept my res at a steady 63f for a couple weeks now, so mission accomplished.
I'm in process of completing my giant blower and air cleaner. I'm using a furnace blower mounted in a in wood box with 3 filters mounted directory to its top. There's pics below of where it's at currently.
The strains going now are dr.krippling incredible bulk, dr.krippling afghan cow, delicious cheese, and afghan valley. It has been 1 week since all popped in the rockwool cubes. They were emediately put into the aeroflo.
The two bigger freak looking plants are cuttings from the sole survives from my outdoor crop. I put them back into veg 2 weeks ago and have already took two clones from there tops. They were in very sad shape.
All together I only have 16 plants now. As soon as there big enough to take tops to clone, I'll double that.
I also have 20 new seeds coming. G13 and Iranian g13. Those were my ho to outdoor strains for huge yield and potency.i wish I could have started them at the same time as the others but it wasn't in the cards.
Nutrients are gh flora series. I'm keeping the ppm under 500 for now.
I've added homemade res cleaner made with chlorine twice now to stop brown algae that came on fast. Seems to be working.
Sorry for the book. Here's some pics. It's all a work in progress. I'm building as I go as time and funds become available. Things will get more exciting as time goes by.

Somehow I uploaded more than one of some of the pics

Since my current grow is not much to look at yet. I thought I would put up some pics of previous grows.
These were from my first grow ever 7 years ago. I ended up with right around 8 pounds of premium manicured bud and god knows how much small less dense stuff.
Northern light blue and fruity chronic juice from delicious seeds

This is last year's crop. 14 critical sensi star by delicious seeds and a half dozen Iranian g13 by dr.greenthumb. by this point I was averaging about 12 oz of finish product per plant with a few that yielded over a pound.
I grow within 90 miles of the Canadian border in Michigan's upper peninsula. Most people in this area believe it's impossible to grow good dope I'm here. Nobody would believe that it's possible to grow 1+pounders. I really did my homework on strain selection. These two strains are great here. Iranian g13 has insane yield and is by far the most potent I've come across. The only negative is the giant colas. After one very rainy fall, I learned that I should never rely on this strain entirely. It molds easily in wet cold weather and once it starts, it goes fast.
Critical sensi star, if topped alot has good branch spacing and a good bud to leaf ratio. That helps air Flo which makes it much better

They are amazing looking plants from your outdoor days my friend, and a super indoor set up!
Almost cried at the machete part, I'd say you were close to it yourself.. But good on you because that was a sacrifice made for the right reason
All the very best with your future grow

Day 13 from seed. Not a whole lot going on. There roots have really took off the last few days and growth is finally starting to pick up.
My two cuts from the outdoor crop are really taking off. So far I've taken 4 clones off them. Only one has shown roots yet. I moved it to the aeroflo yesterday.
Given the huge size different in the the two from outdoors, I'll probably just chop them up for all the clones I can get at the end of next week. Then either just scrap them, or possibly move them to a separate veg room. Maybe even put them in pots and place them on the outskirts of the aeroflo as kind of a bonus

Looks the business..really healthy

CannaQueen420 said:

Looks the business..really healthy

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Yea. I'm not gonna lie. I've been sweating bullets stressing over making a wrong move and wiping them all out. I'm definitely outside my comfort zone here.
I should have 11 g13 and 11 Iranian g13 beans from dr.greenthumb here within a week to add to the party. I hope I'm not dreaming thinking I can manage the canopy with such uneven growth. I've never worked with screens and I don't really want to learn this go around. I'm pretty confident that I can tame them with lst and topping.

There are pros and cons to both indoor and outdoor and change is always daunting really, you will probably really like the control you gain from indoors though because you decide when they switch, and then its really just making the girls do what you want them to for the first 3weeks.
Controlling humidity and airflow,temps,light and PH are the real learning curve when moving in, because mother nature does most of this outside in the open air..but you will be well able to read your plants with the experience you have outside and correct issues quickly rather then letting anything go.
Just relax mate youve got this well under control

19 days from seed.
It's been a crazy week. I had a leaking pipe just above the pump on the aeroflo tuesday. I tried to tighten it and snapped it right off. I was already late for work, so I pulled up the root chamber level controlers. Then dumped a few inches of res water in them for the day. Along with some air stones. Got home with the repair parts to find they did just fine.
The growth is crazy this week. Pushing the veg any further is probably asking for crowding problems but I want to fill the other side of the unit.
I bought everything I need to build a large aerocloner tomorrow. As soon as that's built, I'm topping and all the plants and cloning those. I'm chopping every branch I can off the ones from outdoors for clones also.
I also finished my big blower/carbon filter. I can't believe how fast it vents the room. It must be like 5000 cfm or something. I just set it to 15 minutes on, 1 hr off to see how that goes.
Eventually I'd like it to be set to vent on a humidity control along with co2. That's a few paychecks away though.

Not fucking around, eh?

Does that mean no breeding?

ttystikk said:

Not fucking around, eh?

Does that mean no breeding?

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Just meant that I'm not moving into a closet with a couple cfl's. I was producing 15+ pounds of top shelf bud in a 6-7 month growing season outside. I will have to consistently produce a minimum of 4 pounds every 8 weeks to replace my outdoor operation. That's factoring in the much higher overhead that goes with indoor growing.
In the month and a half since starting this venture, I've literally poured every resource I have into it. My bank accounts drained. change jars empty and my head hurts from the never ending research.
That's what I meant. Maybe I'll change the title now that we can do that if you think it sounds stupid

james42 said:

Just meant that I'm not moving into a closet with a couple cfl's. I was producing 15+ pounds of top shelf bud in a 6-7 month growing season outside. I will have to consistently produce a minimum of 4 pounds every 8 weeks to replace my outdoor operation. That's factoring in the much higher overhead that goes with indoor growing.
In the month and a half since starting this venture, I've literally poured every resource I have into it. My bank accounts drained. change jars empty and my head hurts from the never ending research.
That's what I meant. Maybe I'll change the title now that we can do that if you think it sounds stupid

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I was just kidding, bro. You sound like you need a vacation.

To hot your goal of 4 every 8 weeks, you need a perpetual grow op, I'd suggest feeding one of two bloom spaces every 4 weeks and growing 2 lb in each. Your veg should then deliver a batch of bloom ready plants monthly.

ttystikk said:

I was just kidding, bro. You sound like you need a vacation.

To hot your goal of 4 every 8 weeks, you need a perpetual grow op, I'd suggest feeding one of two bloom spaces every 4 weeks and growing 2 lb in each. Your veg should then deliver a batch of bloom ready plants monthly.

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I figured you were joking but I do need a vacation. 3 kids, working long hours, cub scout den leader and my wife refuses to let my grow interfere with family life, so I don't sleep much.
On the perpetual grow. That's what I'm working into. I'm building a 70 site aerocloner right now.
As soon as this is done, I'm filling it with cuts off what I have going. I also have 20 more fem seeds coming any day now. I have another. Room set up for veg and cloning. The plan is to fill the all 60 sites on the aeroflo. Then expand my flowering area with another system. Maybe another homemade aero unit but most likely dwc in 5 gallon buckets. Then stagger the flower time on the two systems for a harvest every 4 weeks.
I have 3, 1000 watt and two 600 watt switchable basts as of right now. I figure if I can't make it happen with that plan and setup, I probably have no business growing.
Oh yeah. I have 6 strains right now. I'm taking a cut off each of the strongest plants to keep in the veg room as mothers.
I'm modeling it off stinkbuds harvest a pound every 3 weeks thread, only bigger and 4 week cycles

james42 said:

I figured you were joking but I do need a vacation. 3 kids, working long hours, cub scout den leader and my wife refuses to let my grow interfere with family life, so I don't sleep much.
On the perpetual grow. That's what I'm working into. I'm building a 70 site aerocloner right now.View attachment 3800524
As soon as this is done, I'm filling it with cuts off what I have going. I also have 20 more fem seeds coming any day now. I have another. Room set up for veg and cloning. The plan is to fill the all 60 sites on the aeroflo. Then expand my flowering area with another system. Maybe another homemade aero unit but most likely dwc in 5 gallon buckets. Then stagger the flower time on the two systems for a harvest every 4 weeks.
I have 3, 1000 watt and two 600 watt switchable basts as of right now. I figure if I can't make it happen with that plan and setup, I probably have no business growing.
Oh yeah. I have 6 strains right now. I'm taking a cut off each of the strongest plants to keep in the veg room as mothers.
I'm modeling it off stinkbuds harvest a pound every 3 weeks thread, only bigger and 4 week cycles

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Not a bad plan. My only suggestion would be to add another thouie so you have two on each side of your perpetual grow. Then, you can run one zone at night and the other during the day and keep your peak power consumption levels in check.

ttystikk said:

Not a bad plan. My only suggestion would be to add another thouie so you have two on each side of your perpetual grow. Then, you can run one zone at night and the other during the day and keep your peak power consumption levels in check.

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I never really thought about that. I live way out in the sticks on 20 acres. I actually send them my meter reading once every 3 months, and they come out I think once a year to check it.
Do you think they can tell when the power is ming used?

james42 said:

I never really thought about that. I live way out in the sticks on 20 acres. I actually send them my meter reading once every 3 months, and they come out I think once a year to check it.
Do you think they can tell when the power is ming used?

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Nah, that's not the point of doing it. The idea is not to overload your circuits. OTOH, if you have an extra 50A there's no need.

ttystikk said:

Nah, that's not the point of doing it. The idea is not to overload your circuits. OTOH, if you have an extra 50A there's no need.

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Oh ok. Yea. I build and wired the building and already have the light on a separate circuit. I planned on keeping everything spread out.
I have a bad ass generator hard wired right into the breaker box too. The power goes out alot here in the winter

james42 said:

Oh ok. Yea. I build and wired the building and already have the light on a separate circuit. I planned on keeping everything spread out.
I have a bad ass generator hard wired right into the breaker box too. The power goes out alot here in the winter

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If you split the rooms and run them on a flip schedule, it's much less likely to trip breakers with 9A then 18A all at once.

Honestly, your relatively small setup should not experience any such problems.

ttystikk said:

If you split the rooms and run them on a flip schedule, it's much less likely to trip breakers with 9A then 18A all at once.

Honestly, your relatively small setup should not experience any such problems.

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Thanks for the advice.when my work slows down for the winter, I'll probably put some dedicated circuits in just for shits.
With all the pumps, lights and blowers going. It adds up