Overfeeding causing plants to finish early?

im a rookie grower and seem to be overfeeding my plants. when I first learned the importance of checking ppms I found I was between 1500 and 2000 ppms with my soilless medium. I'd have 9-10 week strains look done at 5 weeks. completely done looking with all hairs orange and and plant looking done. I was a beginner so I just ran it for the recommended 9 weeks and nothing changed. I even had gorilla glue 4 look rock hard and completely done at 5 weeks but pea sized buds on 4 foot plants. I was following the advanced chart and discovered my ppms were 2400. why does this happen with overfeeding?
 

chemphlegm

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if you read your nutrient package the directions will explain how important ppm's are.


you ve been burned, your buds are garbaged, you've been fooled, your buds are not finishing early, in fact they're ceasing their normal activity. you need to look at the trichomes to determine finish times, not bud size. at week five your nutrient program insists you taper your feeding amounts until finished, follow directions please.
buy a meter, buy two to check the first. "importance of ppm's", really o_O?

avoid the panic, grow organic
 

Dr.Nick Riviera

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if you read your nutrient package the directions will explain how important ppm's are.


you ve been burned, your buds are garbaged, you've been fooled, your buds are not finishing early, in fact they're ceasing their normal activity. you need to look at the trichomes to determine finish times, not bud size. at week five your nutrient program insists you taper your feeding amounts until finished, follow directions please.
buy a meter, buy two to check the first. "importance of ppm's", really o_O?

avoid the panic, grow organic
you're right about them being fried, but following directions is what got him in trouble. most nutrient labels are always too much and need to be cut back to 1/4 of what they recommend.
 

chemphlegm

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I hear ya, but I've used a dozen or so different bottled hydroponic nutrients, followed exact directions and a perfect already
"flushed" plant resulted, gradual up, gradual down to pure water. I agree plants will survive and even thrive with a fraction of instructed nutes.
I also know if there are other issues in the grow area/habits and plants are not metabolizing correctly, like insufficient c02, poor par lighting, high/low temps, high/low humidity, poor water/air quality, ph issues, etc...as plants will grow to their weakest resource,
too much food, even if normally perfectly fine for a healthy plant, would stunt/damage plants as the salts and unburned carbs built up in the cells= I've seen full strength nutrients do damage to an already unhealthy/poorly uptaking plant.
2cents is all, ops environment might be lacking, reducing nutrients will not hurt likely.
 

Dr.Nick Riviera

Well-Known Member
I hear ya, but I've used a dozen or so different bottled hydroponic nutrients, followed exact directions and a perfect already
"flushed" plant resulted, gradual up, gradual down to pure water. I agree plants will survive and even thrive with a fraction of instructed nutes.
I also know if there are other issues in the grow area/habits and plants are not metabolizing correctly, like insufficient c02, poor par lighting, high/low temps, high/low humidity, poor water/air quality, ph issues, etc...as plants will grow to their weakest resource,
too much food, even if normally perfectly fine for a healthy plant, would stunt/damage plants as the salts and unburned carbs built up in the cells= I've seen full strength nutrients do damage to an already unhealthy/poorly uptaking plant.
2cents is all, ops environment might be lacking, reducing nutrients will not hurt likely.
Yep, I say it all the time, put money into environment, not pumped up nute companies
 
if you read your nutrient package the directions will explain how important ppm's are.


you ve been burned, your buds are garbaged, you've been fooled, your buds are not finishing early, in fact they're ceasing their normal activity. you need to look at the trichomes to determine finish times, not bud size. at week five your nutrient program insists you taper your feeding amounts until finished, follow directions please.
buy a meter, buy two to check the first. "importance of ppm's", really o_O?

avoid the panic, grow organic
that's the problem is I followed the feed charts exactly before I was tracking ppms. I figured the chart's would put me where I needed to be. once I started tracking them I found I was over 2k using advanced nutrients. I called them and they said that is fine and a lot of the value isn't pk so it won't burn. everything got extremely burnt and I know it wasn't from the light's. so now I'm using GH and lowering to get in the 1000-1200 range and seem to be doing well. I'm just curious why it would appear finished with extreme feedings
 

bryan oconner

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lol i have to . you have to flush . add a modest amount of water . about 500 gallons of water . now do not worry if the water is going every where in the house flooding it shorting out stereos popping breakers lmao . no seriously post a picture with your question no over feeding wont make them finish faster or we all would be over feeding to get them done.
 

ReAlNy27

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Always remember less is more.. at least it tends to be unless the plants calls for more nutes, stay to half in what is called for the plant will thank you, and if you aren't checking your pmm reads then your needing to go back to grow 101 and brush up my friend. . You have to know the product your using as well, I have used advanced gh and ff over the course of a few years and ff is the hottest nutrients that I have used be it hydro or soil, advanced is good but like I said half of what is called for or even 1/4 until the plant is used to your nutrient regiment and then you can slowly adjust to full strength, but pay attenuon to your plant and it's attitude and remember k.i.s.s.
Keep it simply silly"
 
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