Owning a hand gun

how do u qualify for a card and not need the medication ...

I have the right to bear arms simple as that............and my MMJ card has never hindered me from owning or buying a gun in colorado. so no they can not see that you have a medical card

I'm cool!
I just thought about throwing some info out there for people to read.

As someone once said, "I'd rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6"
And that is my opinion!^^^^

I'll apply for a CCW in my county, but I'll talk to the Sheriff and get his opinion on it. I do know another patient that HAD a ccw and 10 deputy Sheriffs were summoned to his home. He disclosed the CCW and they didn't even comment on it. About 10 days later he got a letter that stated that his CCW was revoked because he was a MMJ patient.
It seems that they didn't have a problem with him owning the weapon, just didn't want it carried Concealed.

Oh well everyone must choose for themselves what they are comfortable doing and what the penalties are.

Good Luck to everyone,

pp69

cerberus said:

easy, easy, I'm not posting that to dog you. I only skimmed it after you posted it, I don't live anywhere near there so I hadn't even heard this ruling until you mentioned and posted it.. I commented on the limited (I.E. neon colored language) that I caught.. calm down friend, I meant no attack..

But as long as your going to draft your rebuttal post with that type of posture; Why the hell did you comment and post the ruling if you hadn’t even skimmed it? You posted it like it was a rebuttal and pertinent to the conversation but you didn’t know what it said? Now you reply to my interpretation of the ruling defensively, with your defense as “I hadn't read that order entirely.”

Don’t jump on my case because I pointed out the glaring inconsistency to your implication that Oregon has successfully dealt with the problem and that people with both MMJ cards and CCW’s should not worry.

IMHO, anybody venturing into the arena of either MMJ or CCW’s should at least consult with a lawyer and if you combining the two, you should get a lawyer..

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riddleme said:

Uhhh, growing more plants

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Yep. My pain sucks ass but my wife has MS and she has priority over myself. I'm still seeing my regular doctor to see when I can get surgery. With the increased plant count we can dabble with different strains that are suited more to her MS issues. Also allows us to attempt edibles which takes a bit more plants than the 6 they alot you. It's all good, as her MS has stabilzed (for now) and we get through each day the best we can.

Even if you are a MMP you are not suppose to have a firearm . but if you keep it in a safe no one can say shit about it. The cops can say well your a MMP as long as you carry your card on you ! I hope you feel safe owning a firearm is a American right ! Do you think geroge washington was siting on his front porch smoking on a corncob pipe full of his fav hemp and his Sharps 54 cal rifle next to him ! This is the truth ! America has become run with communists ! Lefties and people who want to take your freedom away the only thing im gonna say is this " FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS ! " Now you can have it !

Guns and weed-- any kind of drugs-- don't mix-- no matter the supposed legality. Period.

Guns complicate things. Drugs complicate things. You dig?

Choose only one complication. It's a lot easier that way.

dudeoflife said:

Guns and weed-- any kind of drugs-- don't mix-- no matter the supposed legality. Period.

Guns complicate things. Drugs complicate things. You dig?

Choose only one complication. It's a lot easier that way.

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no. a medical marijuana patient has the same rights as anybody else, and the pot isnt going to make them shoot somebody.

oops, posted in wrong thread

If you're growing herb you're already going against federal law - so you''ll be fighting for your rights anyways.




Keep them away by keeping your garden PRIVATE!!!!
& don't go around flashing your gun while smoking a spliff either...

MacGuyver4.2.0 said:

O.K. Here's one for all you arm chair lawyers out there. (i already ran this by a real lawyer) but want to see your responses.

Couple lives in their home (not a rental)
No children present in home
BOTH of the people have their state issued MMJ licenses.
ONE of the 2 people registered weapons PRIOR to getting a MMJ license.
The person who registered the weapons prior to getting a MMJ license can pass any drug test (no drugs in system, period)
Cops show up and confiscate everything, discover weapons and haul both off to jail.
Lawyers show evidence that the one person legally had ALL rights to own the registered weapons, as NO illegal drugs were EVER present in the persons system and legally aquired the weapons prior to getting a MMJ license. The other person in the household IS the MMJ user but NOT the gun owner.
BOTH parties sue city, state and federal government for wrongful arrest, harrassment, defamation of character, loss of work wages, trauma, etc.. and RETIRE.

Bottom line... don't go cheap. It PAYS to have a GREAT lawyer.

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Doesn't matter they have their mmj cards makes the mmj legal. It is defined when you purchase weapon as "illegal" drugs. Since you are legally allowed by the state to smoke and pay 90$ you are allowed to have the combination of guns and mmj. However if you didn't that would be a completely different story. As the state deems it marijuana is a herb which can be medicinally used to alleviate a select few ailments. Many which replace medications such as painkillers. Now lets say you were prescribed painkillers by law you are still legally allowed to have a gun. So if one can be prescribed synthetic heroine one should surely be able to use an herb which is holistic medicinal approach as opposed to the numerous side effects of the various pharmaceuticals used to treat these ailments. Also in your hypothetical instance it never states marijuana was found; therefore making this arrest completely illegal. So yes I would agree with sue, and retire. Was your lawyers response similar?

What this issue comes down to is a simple fact. Untill there is case law to establish a precident it is all hypothetical.

pikes peak 69 said:

I'm cool!
I just thought about throwing some info out there for people to read.

As someone once said, "I'd rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6"
And that is my opinion!^^^^

I'll apply for a CCW in my county, but I'll talk to the Sheriff and get his opinion on it. I do know another patient that HAD a ccw and 10 deputy Sheriffs were summoned to his home. He disclosed the CCW and they didn't even comment on it. About 10 days later he got a letter that stated that his CCW was revoked because he was a MMJ patient.
It seems that they didn't have a problem with him owning the weapon, just didn't want it carried Concealed.

Oh well everyone must choose for themselves what they are comfortable doing and what the penalties are.

Good Luck to everyone,

pp69

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Looks like there has already been a case.. however to go as far as to make an actual "case" out of it that would substantiate a legal standing for others I believe is a dumb assumption. Such a case would pull too much bad media which is why instances like for-mentioned happen with no attention from the general public. It is probably already decided by LEO but not publicly announced.

You STILL have the right to 'keep and bear arms' as long as they are properly registered. Home defense, hunting and competitive shooting are all legal reasons to own a firearm. When the cops nail you is during a RAID and you either have a weapon (knife, gun, other) on your PERSON. That is a weapons possession charge that doubles the penalties of any 'drug' charge they throw at you. If you have a pistol or shotgun LOCKED in a safe or strong box and it is NOT on your person, they CANNOT charge you for weapons possession violation, unless you have illegal arms or unregistered weapons. Just because they consider you a 'criminal' for being a MMJ patient does NOT strip you of your 2nd Amendment rights granted by the U.S. Constitution. Just like the right to a trial, they cannot take it away

One of the first things cops do before a raid is check if you own any REGISTERED weapons...they want to know what they are going up against when they show up with their toys, they don't like being 'outgunned' (kind of a penis envy thing, apparently). A CCW although it can be approved by local law enforcement or the state, still falls under federal jurisdiction due to the BATF paperwork you have to sign.

No people. It is that you cannot have one in a grow house. OK you can have card with a weapon but if you are growing your 6 you can't even have a weapon in your house. Or one that resembles one. Added big time felonies.

Wordz said:

wow when i buy a gun and they ask me if i use drugs i say no it's that easy at least where i live

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hahaha damn skippy. what ever happened to people lying on government forms

Big P said:

Ya But this sucks cuz what if u ignore the law and keep your guns and then have to kill somone in your home in self defense you could get in serious trouble right?


So if you do keep your gun be prepared for that scenario but i gues its better than having an intruder kill you and assrape your dog anyways

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its better the be judged by 12 then carried by six....

MacGuyver4.2.0 said:

You STILL have the right to 'keep and bear arms' as long as they are properly registered (no such thing). Home defense, hunting and competitive shooting are all legal reasons (wrong again, it's an inalienable right, you don't need a reason to own a fire arm) to own a firearm. When the cops nail you is during a RAID and you either have a weapon (knife, gun, other) on your PERSON. That is a weapons possession charge that doubles the penalties of any 'drug' charge they throw at you. If you have a pistol or shotgun LOCKED in a safe or strong box and it is NOT on your person, they CANNOT charge you for weapons possession violation, unless you have illegal arms or unregistered weapons. Just because they consider you a 'criminal' for being a MMJ patient does NOT strip you of your 2nd Amendment rights granted by the U.S. Constitution (unless of course you waive that right when you apply for your card). Just like the right to a trial, they cannot take it away (No but people give up that right every day)

One of the first things cops do (you have gotten every thing else wrong up to this point so I will assume thi is wrong too) before a raid is check if you own any REGISTERED weapons...they want to know what they are going up against when they show up with their toys, they don't like being 'outgunned' (kind of a penis envy thing, apparently). A CCW although it can be approved by local law enforcement or the state, still falls under federal jurisdiction due to the BATF paperwork you have to sign (are you just making this shit up as you go along?).

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Are you talking about the United States of America here? You STILL have the right to 'keep and bear arms' as long as they are properly registered. This is just plain wrong, there is no "registration" of individuals fire arms on a federal level. The carring of an un licienced weapon is a crime (in most jusistrictions) in and of it self.

and I thought there was a lot of bad plant advise on this board!!!

Bonzi Lighthouse said:

Are you talking about the United States of America here? You STILL have the right to 'keep and bear arms' as long as they are properly registered. This is just plain wrong, there is no "registration" of individuals fire arms on a federal level. The carring of an un licienced weapon is a crime (in most jusistrictions) in and of it self.

and I thought there was a lot of bad plant advise on this board!!!

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There is registarion on a state and fedral level for guns, not to purchase(on a state level), but certain firearms and accessories you have to file on a fed level. its called a ffa licsnces and when you have that, or a certain amount of guns you also (supposed to) reg on a fed level so they can keep tabs on you. and yes before the cops do a raid on your house they investigated your complete background INCLUDING REGISTERED WEAPONS. for there safety and the safety of neighbors. im sorry to butt in but if your gonna debate someones input have your shit straight. now the whole mmj and guns is a touchy subject that would take previous trials and cases to guesstimate. would need legal advice from a lawyer as well.

purpslovindude,

Unless you own Fully Automatic, or Altered firearms you are not required to obtain a FFL just to own firearms.

Further it is FFL not ffa and it stands for "FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSE"

colonuggs said:

It must be the MMJ card application we fill out and send into the State....its kept on record.....the gun application is run through the state also

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Incorrect. To pass a background check to buy a firearm you fill out a federal form. If you are approved the gun is then transfered to you via a dealer with a federal firearms license. Federal statutes over rule State, especially when it comes to stuff like this. Under federal law, medical marijuana is still illegal, even if they are not actively prosecuting it in your state. As soon as you signed up to be a MMJ patient, you admitted to using a controlled substance. This means there is no way to buy a gun legally without lying on the form.

I have a CCw permit In Colorado, and own quite a few guns. I highly doubt I will ever be able to get a Red card and keep my 2nd amendment "privileges."