PC Case grow - Stealth + Perpetual + LST
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v12xjs
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Cheers Tom. Good call.
I think I've sorted it now but these plants hate sitting in damp soil so I've had a nightmare trying to feed them while they are young. They just show heavy overwatering symptoms the moment I feed them!
I think they would be better suited to a flood and drain system but they won't find one in my case.
I think I've sorted it now but these plants hate sitting in damp soil so I've had a nightmare trying to feed them while they are young. They just show heavy overwatering symptoms the moment I feed them!
I think they would be better suited to a flood and drain system but they won't find one in my case.
ElephantRider
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Great to see you're still at it, brother! Rep for the CMH, too!! I have been auto white Russian on t5ho recently. Wow!! Actually, the awr is just great overall, except that you need to breed it to keep going. 
maturesmoker
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Some great buds in those last pics V12 
Impressive as ever.
Impressive as ever.
ElephantRider
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I will grab a pic tomorrow night. Axe time for me, too!
Enjoy!
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looking good man, to me though it doesnt look like mag def is looks like nitrogen def which happens at the end of flowering but not this much it needs to get a nice amount of nitrogen i belive but it could be mag but from what i know mag def has browning outer leaves and nitrogen is the entire leaf turning a yellow intill it dieing but not browning side. your seem like the nitrogen def.
Check my journal out i just started 1.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/299010-enjoys-grow-journal-1-a.html
Check my journal out i just started 1.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/299010-enjoys-grow-journal-1-a.html
ElephantRider
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It's mg/ca. Looked identical to what I had on my most recent.. ahem.. larger.. ahem.. girls and the sensical mg mix straightened them out immediately. All that crispy brown turned purple. So neat! Also.. N def. tends to look "wetter" to me, versus crispy. And real rare to have N deficiency in flower. The plant usually has enough N.
All that said, I bet V knew just fine and didn't mind much. cheeky fucker!
All that said, I bet V knew just fine and didn't mind much. cheeky fucker!
Enjoy!
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lol. sorry real rare? umm not really alot of growers who have defs get a n def at the end becuase thats a hugee factor in it and alot have a lack of it usually not enough to get full blown nitrogen def so i semi agree but when people dont catch it soon it turns from 1 or two turning yellow to the entire plant starting the yellowing process its happen to me before.
v12xjs
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Welcome Enjoy! and thanks for the comments.
There's a few issues I didn't anticipate when I changed to coco for this grow but I think the redness is from some pretty cold weather recently and the yellowing is mostly from cal/mag def. I only ended up cutting the main cola last night and the plant is a very lush green with it out of the way. I'll try and get a pic tonight to illustrate.
TBH a little deficiency is to be expected with a case grow. These plants want to be 1 - 1.5m and the case is 54cm with a grow area only half that so ideal health is secondary to keeping the buggers contained.
Thanks for the link, I'll check out your grow.
Hey ER. Can't wait to see what you are up to. Bet I'm not the only one either.
You still running multiple cases?
Well I took the axe to the top part of the main cola last night and decided to let the rest of the plant go an extra week. As I've said before I'm not greedy and the top I took looks like it will last me 5 days while the rest of the plant does the full 55 day stint. Here's a look at the top half way through the manicure to give an idea of size. CMH FTW!:
There's a few issues I didn't anticipate when I changed to coco for this grow but I think the redness is from some pretty cold weather recently and the yellowing is mostly from cal/mag def. I only ended up cutting the main cola last night and the plant is a very lush green with it out of the way. I'll try and get a pic tonight to illustrate.
TBH a little deficiency is to be expected with a case grow. These plants want to be 1 - 1.5m and the case is 54cm with a grow area only half that so ideal health is secondary to keeping the buggers contained.
Thanks for the link, I'll check out your grow.
Hey ER. Can't wait to see what you are up to. Bet I'm not the only one either.
You still running multiple cases?
Well I took the axe to the top part of the main cola last night and decided to let the rest of the plant go an extra week. As I've said before I'm not greedy and the top I took looks like it will last me 5 days while the rest of the plant does the full 55 day stint. Here's a look at the top half way through the manicure to give an idea of size. CMH FTW!:
tom__420
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Nice bud man but I would have let it go longer, I see white hairs all over it
Def let the rest of the plant finish and take a look at this thread, really changed my views on harvesting times: https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/210501-zeuss-take-harvesting.html
Def let the rest of the plant finish and take a look at this thread, really changed my views on harvesting times: https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/210501-zeuss-take-harvesting.html
floridasucks
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haha nice bud v...
enjoy.
enjoy.wassup v12, not sure why u flipped like that, im pretty sure Tom420 is just trying to give advice, he said it was a nice bud lol.. shit i grow outta pc cases too so i kno where your coming from.. to be honest i havent even been following this journal at all, but looking at that bud i agree with him too.. i harvested my first plant way to early cus i was just so dam anxious to chop it but whatever, you might of had a reason to chop it early. peace manHey Tom.
Do me a favour and either shout out what you know about pc grows or just stay up your own ass.
You just saw me pull a bud the size of a can of red bull by clipping less than 1/3 of a plant that took up 1/4 of a fucking pc case and you think there's something wrong
Like you could do better
maturesmoker
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Hiya V12,
Thats a very nice sized bud there. Looks good and chunky. Didnt realize you had switched to coco?
I CAN see the point Tom was making V12, but I also tend to harvest my own buds like yours, its how I like them! Couple of days drying and the pistils have shrivelled anyway and you still have a solid bud. But I agree that if you leave them they will FULLY ripen off as described, its just that most like it cut a little earlier, personal preference.
Anyway, how you finding the coco? Been thinking about trying it myself, judging from that example there mate its obviously good stuff? I like the idea of being able to drench the roots but have them dried out same day!
Enjoythat bud, it looks tasty
Thats a very nice sized bud there. Looks good and chunky. Didnt realize you had switched to coco?
I CAN see the point Tom was making V12, but I also tend to harvest my own buds like yours, its how I like them! Couple of days drying and the pistils have shrivelled anyway and you still have a solid bud. But I agree that if you leave them they will FULLY ripen off as described, its just that most like it cut a little earlier, personal preference.
Anyway, how you finding the coco? Been thinking about trying it myself, judging from that example there mate its obviously good stuff? I like the idea of being able to drench the roots but have them dried out same day!
Enjoythat bud, it looks tasty
v12xjs
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Hey ms. Thanks.
The coco is a bit of a mixed blessing for me. I was expecting it to dry out rapidly but it doesn't work quite like that. I guess it encourages root growth and when the roots are suitably big they suck it dry quickly, but for little seedlings with no rootmass it just stays damp for days, even in perfect temps. Your use of cuttings may suit it better as they will already have a decent rootstock.
I'm sure it helped yield but there were a few other factors so I couldn't say to what extent. The light is HID now obviously and I used a 2 litre pot instead of the old 1.1's for the final stint.
I fully agree about different tastes with regards clear/amber, we are all different, but personally I just don't think it's too clever to aim for max amber and max couchlock on possibly the most infamous couchlock plant in the world.
The coco is a bit of a mixed blessing for me. I was expecting it to dry out rapidly but it doesn't work quite like that. I guess it encourages root growth and when the roots are suitably big they suck it dry quickly, but for little seedlings with no rootmass it just stays damp for days, even in perfect temps. Your use of cuttings may suit it better as they will already have a decent rootstock.
I'm sure it helped yield but there were a few other factors so I couldn't say to what extent. The light is HID now obviously and I used a 2 litre pot instead of the old 1.1's for the final stint.
I fully agree about different tastes with regards clear/amber, we are all different, but personally I just don't think it's too clever to aim for max amber and max couchlock on possibly the most infamous couchlock plant in the world.
v12xjs
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Hey Autoflowa
Tom got a flea in his ear partly because he doesn't grow in a pc case, he doesn't use cmh and it's very unlikely that he does a 12/12 from seed in coco with NL. Would you go trolling NFT grows under HPS & sticking your oar in?
Amongst other things, when you try to fit a 1.5 metre plant into a 30cm growcase, pristine health of shade leaves that will never be smoked isn't a primary concern, but being ignorant of the nuances of a pc grow Tom doesn't understand that. He should stick to what he knows.
I thought he was pretty ignorant too.
when he suggested I let the rest of the plant go longer it was in reply to my post stating I'd just chopped the cola and was letting the rest of the plant go longer. WTF? He didn't even read the post he was replying to.
Sounds like maybe you didn't either.
Tom got a flea in his ear partly because he doesn't grow in a pc case, he doesn't use cmh and it's very unlikely that he does a 12/12 from seed in coco with NL. Would you go trolling NFT grows under HPS & sticking your oar in?
Amongst other things, when you try to fit a 1.5 metre plant into a 30cm growcase, pristine health of shade leaves that will never be smoked isn't a primary concern, but being ignorant of the nuances of a pc grow Tom doesn't understand that. He should stick to what he knows.
I thought he was pretty ignorant too.
when he suggested I let the rest of the plant go longer it was in reply to my post stating I'd just chopped the cola and was letting the rest of the plant go longer. WTF? He didn't even read the post he was replying to.
Sounds like maybe you didn't either.
tom__420
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I don't know why you got pissed man, you harvested that bud early it doesn't matter where it was grown
I know when to harvest a plant and a bud with white hairs is not ready for harvest plain and simple
I grow aeroponics under HPS in a real cab, you keep on thinking you are hot shit growing in a cpu case
When you can step up and grow some real plants let me know, it is easier to grow dinky plants in a pc case than growing large plants in a real setup
Learn how to take advice better because the shit that I am seeing is not good enough for you to call me out on my skills and what I know
Oh yeah and by the way you harvested that bud early
I know when to harvest a plant and a bud with white hairs is not ready for harvest plain and simple
I grow aeroponics under HPS in a real cab, you keep on thinking you are hot shit growing in a cpu case
When you can step up and grow some real plants let me know, it is easier to grow dinky plants in a pc case than growing large plants in a real setup
Learn how to take advice better because the shit that I am seeing is not good enough for you to call me out on my skills and what I know
Oh yeah and by the way you harvested that bud early
v12xjs
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Hey Tom
Thought I showed you the door.
I believe the post above has been edited, wish I knew what it said.
I decided to read about magnesium and figured cannabis legend tom_420 would be the person to give me the lowdown so I typed the 2 terms into my search engine.
Never expected it to yield such goldust
You used to eat it?
I'm surprised such a knowledgeable guy didn't realise it would give permanent shits. Bet that made you popular
Still, there's plenty of fish out there isn't there Tom. Especially if your not fussy about gender. Your pics look exactly as I expected.
I've got a few more of those links to follow and it's all priceless stuff, but you should expect someone to send one of those 2 roses fairly soon
Let's see how you like being trolled. You'll know why I got so pissed soon enough boy.
Oh the irony of telling me about magnesium. Bet you never do that again eh?
Thought I showed you the door.
I believe the post above has been edited, wish I knew what it said.
I decided to read about magnesium and figured cannabis legend tom_420 would be the person to give me the lowdown so I typed the 2 terms into my search engine.
Never expected it to yield such goldust
You used to eat it?
I'm surprised such a knowledgeable guy didn't realise it would give permanent shits. Bet that made you popular
Still, there's plenty of fish out there isn't there Tom. Especially if your not fussy about gender. Your pics look exactly as I expected.
I've got a few more of those links to follow and it's all priceless stuff, but you should expect someone to send one of those 2 roses fairly soon
Let's see how you like being trolled. You'll know why I got so pissed soon enough boy.
Oh the irony of telling me about magnesium. Bet you never do that again eh?