pc/ultimate scrog grow yield!

Matchbox said:

lol thanks though I put it down to a lot of reading, luck and practice XD or a green finger or 10 lol, I have messed up a few grows and learned from it, to succeed you have to first fail.. or something to that effect.. I still have a lot to learn as well!

Best advice anyone can give is to keep reading even if you think you know a lot, patience and practice, as you get more experience you learn how your plants react to certain things and learn to read them, what they want/need how to treat them etc. Just takes time

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really solid advice macthbox.

"to succeed you have to first fail" ... so that you know what not to do the next time

there are a lot of different variations but the quote speaks for itself.

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hey mrlightgreen -- how are the colas coming along?

and what soil are you using again?

post some updated pictures my friend! -- if you have time.

haha cheers! I've even messed this grow up a tad but only 'cause it's my first venture into proper hydroponics, not just passive hydro

Just stuck a quick update in my thread if your interested, you can see where the canopy has just gone crazy and slightly messed up lol XD

Stay Frosty!

Herbal.experience- I just topped last night. So haven't seen any changes yet. I am also trying to clone the top lol never cloned before will see how it goes will try to update later on tonight.

Matchbox-seen your grow man in that case with over grow what can you do just cutting them or is there away that u can train them

stem in soil (damp soil) and bag over top corner cut from bag for some gas exchange mist 2x a day(cant really miss a spray or it could fuck everything up)

Oh and im using fox farm ocean forest soil.

ok so I kinda had a clue got a Gatorade bottle cut it in half put some soil on it really wet and drained out. Cut the stem at an angle with some sanitized scissors

Put the (clone) in the soil and put the other half of the Gatorade on top with clear rap and mist the plant really humid in there. Hopefully it roots and I would put it under my 400w.

Thanks on the tip with the spraying though I would have fucked it up.

yeah and open it up at least once a day for air exchange just watch out for the 2 extremes oversaturation and dehydration 100% RH is fine so long as the soil is damp not wet, not freshly drained after you drain it would be best to wait a few hours hopfully you did, and if you under a 400w put some type off shade over the clone or move as far as possible from the light.

and remember the best conditions for a clone are the best conditions for mold and bactieria so open her up for air from time to time this will curb thier growth.

mr.lightgr3en said:

Herbal.experience- I just topped last night. So haven't seen any changes yet. I am also trying to clone the top lol never cloned before will see how it goes will try to update later on tonight.

Matchbox-seen your grow man in that case with over grow what can you do just cutting them or is there away that u can train them

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I could run strings from the screen to the stems and kinda pull and tie them but the stems get very fragile and stiff during flower, so everything has to be done really carefully, I've snapped about 12 stems off of the runt (left plant) just from tucking under the screen. At the moment I don't think they are going to stretch any more so I'm just leaving them as they are, cutting off some leaves here and there for the sake of light penetration and letting them do their thing.

But if you find you run out of width, as in it's all full and you have tall stems, there's pretty much nothing you can do if you try to tie down you'll end up blocking off light to other more productive parts of the canopy and if you cut it back too much (especially if they are main stems) you risk stressing her into turning into hermaphrodite, which no one wants! unless you want to create seeds

Which is why we only fill 40-60% in small grows, so the screen can be filled during the flowering phase. If you have the space, an awesome way of doing it is filling the screen 100% in veg, trim up the undergrowth so that when you switch to flower they go right above the screen and you end up with some fat tall cola goodness with next to no popcorn! XD

OK SO IM ON DAY 23 OF VEG AND JUST TOPPED HER TO GET 4 MAIN COLAS.
USING FOX FARM OCEAN FOREST SOIL AND FOX FARM NUTES.
FOR NUTES I JUST STARTED YESTURDAY 1tsp OF GROW BIG PER GALLON.
HERE IT GOES LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK IF ITS LOOKING GOOD OR IF I TOPPED GOOD. THANKS
YEA I DONT THINK THE CLONE IS GONNA SURVIVE LOL.. I THINK THIER WASNT ENOUGH STEM FOR IT PLANT IS LOOKING REALLY DROPPY. HOPEFULLY IM NOT OVER WATERING ALTHOUGH ALL I DO IS SPRAY. WELL LET ME KNOW HOW IT LOOKS THANKS.

looks good cant really tell if your overwatering but it doesnt look like it. maybe cut some more leaf and expose some more stem.

Yea on my clone all my leafs are just floppy I'll probably cur some leafs off and like you said expose some stem..
But hopefully this 4 main colas come out.

So basically super bad to over grow your scrog lol

looking green and healthy!

you following FF feed chart @ 1/4 strength?

Thanks.
yes sir 1tsp per gallon for one week then I go stronger and stronger every week to me it looks like ima veg for another month unless this colas grow dramatically fast.
And I just smoke the last of my last grow :'(

I wouldn't veg much more, literally give them their week recovery and flower out!

The tops will bounce back literally within 2-3 days and grow pretty quick, you've got to remember that they will double to triple their size with the flowering stretch, and from the looks of it you should get your 4 colas

Overgrown ScrOG = Bad XD, especially in a small case.

wow it looks really smal for the screen to be filled. But you know best. I will switch to 12/12 after the week of recovery which is on sat. Also that's when I up the nutes. Wow things are moving on pretty fast im excited .

Your alot of help matchbox yea I can see them coming out already =D

Ima cheat and try to upload some pics later on tonight!!
Thank you and happy growing!!

lol no worries, it's not particularly knowing best, just a kind of safety protocol lol at least this way you'll see how much it stretches in flower so you know roughly how much longer to leave it next time, it's better to do it that way round than wait too long and end up with too much growth (probably less yield at that point as well than with a smaller plant)

yea it makes sense well as long as I get 10g im happy its my first time and this is kinda like a hobbie of mine with a reward at the end lol
I haven't gotten the chance to post the pic up so I guess will have to wait till sat. I hardly have time to get on my computer to upload mostly reply through my phone. So will see how it looks sat.

mr.lightgr3en said:

yea it makes sense well as long as I get 10g im happy its my first time and this is kinda like a hobbie of mine with a reward at the end lol
I haven't gotten the chance to post the pic up so I guess will have to wait till sat. I hardly have time to get on my computer to upload mostly reply through my phone. So will see how it looks sat.

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10 grams is doable man.

id be happy with any yield! -- its all about experience.

just make sure to aim for higher yields every new grow.

interested to see some updates.

Awesome im excited I really hope its a female. I hate that I don't have any femenized seeds but I really don't trust the feds. So im scared of ordering some online?
How do you guys go it"

ive ordered online in fac ti just ordered some spores.... its pretty safe so long as you have afriend who doesnt grow use thier CC and send it to thier house.

What experience have you had with their seeds?