Peak Weed

c ray

c ray

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any LP that is not taking advantage of the grand opportunity to breed new strains and do mass selections is not in it for the long haul.. any LP that is not testing for terpenoid profiles and other compound profiles and who is not using this info to find out how they are effective for different conditions is in it for the short haul.. any LP that has no thoughts about GH cultivation is in it for the short haul.. any LP that does not already have an extract specialist is in it for the short haul.. these are the medical masqueraders who will be caught with their pants down when the real medical producers arrive on the scene.. these are the guys who are going to realize they have no game on the medical side and will jump to the rec. side at the first available opportunity.. some of these guys if we looked their business plans they would prob only go to year 5, they are prob banking on being bought out by a bigger fish, but the thing is only a big turd would have any interest in a small turd.. the real medical producers when they arrive on the scene are just going to eat the market.. there is no benefit to the acquisition of inferior entities.. some lp lookyloos are probably reading this and laughing thinking that they already have it made in the shade, but a piece of paper from hc does not constitute a laurel to be rested upon..
 
CalyxCrusher

CalyxCrusher

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c ray said:
any LP that is not taking advantage of the grand opportunity to breed new strains and do mass selections is not in it for the long haul.. any LP that is not testing for terpenoid profiles and other compound profiles and who is not using this info to find out how they are effective for different conditions is in it for the short haul.. any LP that has no thoughts about GH cultivation is in it for the short haul.. any LP that does not already have an extract specialist is in it for the short haul.. these are the medical masqueraders who will be caught with their pants down when the real medical producers arrive on the scene.. these are the guys who are going to realize they have no game on the medical side and will jump to the rec. side at the first available opportunity.. some of these guys if we looked their business plans they would prob only go to year 5, they are prob banking on being bought out by a bigger fish, but the thing is only a big turd would have any interest in a small turd.. the real medical producers when they arrive on the scene are just going to eat the market.. there is no benefit to the acquisition of inferior entities.. some lp lookyloos are probably reading this and laughing thinking that they already have it made in the shade, but a piece of paper from hc does not constitute a laurel to be rested upon..
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I agree completely. But given the results LP's are producing as it currently stands, do we really want them to try and take on something like breeding? I mean, done properly(back crossed and stabilized over 4-5 generations) it is very time consuming and requires an eye for detail and competence and understanding of the plant that these LP's have failed to show thus far.
 
c ray

c ray

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that's inbreeding, sure that would be nice if someone showed that kinda foresight.. because eventually the greenhouses and great outdoors are going to be where the bulk of commercial cannabis comes from.. the future for those who are brave enough to look.. mostly though the breeding will probably aim at creating f1s, and delving into those f1 seed pools to find phenotypes with not only the right resins and terps, but with improved agronomic traits..

was reading in a big oil thread on icmag about how some guys in cali have figured out how to distill crappy oil and add back terpenes, and then someone speculated that the superabundance of crappy commercial is destined to become such a product.. how long before the chinese come onboard and start selling their 'dolla grams'?
 
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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c ray said:
let's say there are 1,000,000 cannabis consumers in Canada, each consuming 1 lb bud/year.. in field production let's say it takes 43.56 sq. ft to produce 1 lb bud, and there are 43,560 sq. ft per acre, means 1 acre can theoretically produce 1000 lbs.. 1 million divided by 1000 = 1000 acres
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There's a lot of holes in this math. Just for openers, the idea that it takes 45 ft² to grow a pound is laughable. I can grow a pound every other week in less than that space when averaged out over a year.

Second, I remember reading that the average percentage of smokers in the adult population is generally around 15%, though since I don't remember where I read that figure, I wouldn't trust it.

Weed is too easy to grow and therefore the price will fall over time. Eventually it will reach a price point just above the cost of the most efficient producers, driving out competition.

Then the monopolists will pounce and drive the price back up again just when everyone has shitcanned their grows, thinking they'll never need them again.

Moral of the story? Keep your gear, grow tomatoes... and wait it out.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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c ray said:
that's inbreeding, sure that would be nice if someone showed that kinda foresight.. because eventually the greenhouses and great outdoors are going to be where the bulk of commercial cannabis comes from.. the future for those who are brave enough to look.. mostly though the breeding will probably aim at creating f1s, and delving into those f1 seed pools to find phenotypes with not only the right genotypes and terpotypes, but with improved agronomic traits..

was reading in a big oil thread on icmag about how some guys in cali have figured out how to distill crappy oil and add back terpenes, and then someone speculated that the superabundance of crappy commercial is destined to become such a product.. how long before the chinese come onboard and start selling their 'dolla grams'?
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Breeding for desirable agronomic traits has been underway for nearly the entire history of domestic cultivation- and it's only accelerating now.

Hasn't everyone had a broken strain they've tossed in favor of something with more vigour?
 
redi jedi

redi jedi

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ttystikk said:
There's a lot of holes in this math. Just for openers, the idea that it takes 45 ft² to grow a pound is laughable. I can grow a pound every other week in less than that space when averaged out over a year.

Second, I remember reading that the average percentage of smokers in the adult population is generally around 15%, though since I don't remember where I read that figure, I wouldn't trust it.

Weed is too easy to grow and therefore the price will fall over time. Eventually it will reach a price point just above the cost of the most efficient producers, driving out competition.

Then the monopolists will pounce and drive the price back up again just when everyone has shitcanned their grows, thinking they'll never need them again.

Moral of the story? Keep your gear, grow tomatoes... and wait it out.
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You missed the point, its about growing outdoors and roughly how much space it would take to provide everyone....I think..lol

Any number you read about pot smokers is only the percentage of people that admit.

With the way our $ is moving...I'd could see alot of !CDN!! outdoor going States side..
 
c ray

c ray

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redi jedi said:
You missed the point, its about growing outdoors and roughly how much space it would take to provide everyone....I think..lol
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exactly
the math is not so important as is the idea that the amount of space needed to supply the world with weed is pretty small relative to many other things,.. like tomatoes for instance..
 
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