People that voted for Trump POLL

Do you still support him

  • yes

    Votes: 16 51.6%
  • no

    Votes: 15 48.4%

  • Total voters
    31

Chunky Stool

Well-Known Member
Half of my relatives voted for Trump. It's weird.
I can resist the urge to post political stuff on facebook, but I have a hard time reading breitbart BS from my brother-in-law without saying something. Usually what I have to say isn't very nice.
This is a guy who criticized Obama every time he played golf or took a vacation, but now it's peachy.
I've known him for 30 years and now I'm really starting to dislike him.
It is sad.
Lost my best friend from high school the same way about five years ago. We were like Beavis & Butthead back in the day -- and now we don't speak.
I don't like what is happening in my own little world, and I get the feeling this is happening everywhere. :-(
 

Joomby

Well-Known Member
Trying to ban muslims, saying you're going to build a wall to keep those rapist Mexicans out, and calling neo-nazis "good people" is totally not racist. :roll:
I don't live in America but aren't Muslim's(not all but a very large amount) a serious threat? Haven't The US had a fence /wall in place for a long time to stop illegals that has failed and cost Millions in gaurding? That obviously fails and a larger more stable wall would make more sense economicly? Did he really call them rapists? And did the exact words "Neo Nazi's are good people " actually come out of his mouth?
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
I don't live in America but aren't Muslim's(not all but a very large amount) a serious threat?
There is WAY more domestic terrorism here from white christians than there is from Muslims. By and large they are well assimilated, peaceful people here in the states.

Haven't The US had a fence /wall in place for a long time to stop illegals that has failed and cost Millions in gaurding? That obviously fails and a larger more stable wall would make more sense economicly?
The wall that Trump wants to build is mostly symbolic. A waste of money imo. The thing with walls is that you can always go over, or under them. The vast majority of drugs that come in to this country come through legal ports of entry.

Did he really call them rapists?
Basically...

"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best," Trump said. "They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
 

Fogdog

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I don't live in America but aren't Muslim's(not all but a very large amount) a serious threat? Haven't The US had a fence /wall in place for a long time to stop illegals that has failed and cost Millions in gaurding? That obviously fails and a larger more stable wall would make more sense economicly? Did he really call them rapists? And did the exact words "Neo Nazi's are good people " actually come out of his mouth?
Trump is informed almost as well as you are. Remember when he called the mass murderer in Orlando, Pulse Nightclub a "radical Islam terrorist"?

Also in the speech, just hours after the mass murders and before anything was known about the murderer, he said: "If we don't get tough, and if we don't get smart, and fast, we're not going to have our country anymore. There will be nothing, absolutely nothing, left. The killer, whose name I will not use, or ever say, was born in Afghan, of Afghan parents, who immigrated to the United States."

Trump knows how to tell it like it is. He doesn't let political correctness get in the way of saying what needs to be said. Just like you. Preach, mister.
 

Heil Tweetler

Well-Known Member
Half of my relatives voted for Trump. It's weird.
I can resist the urge to post political stuff on facebook, but I have a hard time reading breitbart BS from my brother-in-law without saying something. Usually what I have to say isn't very nice.
This is a guy who criticized Obama every time he played golf or took a vacation, but now it's peachy.
I've known him for 30 years and now I'm really starting to dislike him.
It is sad.
Lost my best friend from high school the same way about five years ago. We were like Beavis & Butthead back in the day -- and now we don't speak.
I don't like what is happening in my own little world, and I get the feeling this is happening everywhere. :-(
Ya in my close family we have no trump supporters but weve got some racists.

With the trump blind faith phenomenon i think it has to do with some primal, tribal race factors. Like limbic level need to prove ole bone spurs is gonna out perform black dude obama. A lil like McCracker vs. Mayweather. They arent in the same sport, same league or same class.

Its also pitiable since trump is hobbled by isolation, privilege and psychological afflictions. He`s outclassed by obama along most any metric. Still i wonder if a deep seated dread and refusal to accept reality inactivates doubt, skepticism, critical thought.
 

dagwood45431

Well-Known Member
"Bro you support a fucking buffoon. Hes not remotely qualified to handle the job. Hes a pathological liar, has the shitiest character, and his practices are corrosive to the american soul. He is an abomination."

That's why I voted for him!
Why don't you just sit out politics while you're waiting for the world to end? Some of us still have hope.
 

dagwood45431

Well-Known Member
You're actually the one that seems a little butt hurt here. I didn't deflect anything. You said anyone that thought Trump would be a better president than Hillary is probably racist. So I asked how Trump promised racism such as you claim and then gave an example of Hillary being racist to show that your backwards theory is asinine. You follow?
Why do YOU think there were/are so few people of color at the Orange Retard's Retard Rallies?
 

Heil Tweetler

Well-Known Member
I don't live in America but aren't Muslim's(not all but a very large amount) a serious threat? Haven't The US had a fence /wall in place for a long time to stop illegals that has failed and cost Millions in gaurding? That obviously fails and a larger more stable wall would make more sense economicly? Did he really call them rapists? And did the exact words "Neo Nazi's are good people " actually come out of his mouth?
Concern yourself with matters in your own failing state. your comments dont merit any consideration.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Ya in my close family we have no trump supporters but weve got some racists.

With the trump blind faith phenomenon i think it has to do with some primal, tribal race factors. Like limbic level need to prove ole bone spurs is gonna out perform black dude obama. A lil like McCracker vs. Mayweather. They arent in the same sport, same league or same class.

Its also pitiable since trump is hobbled by isolation, privilege and psychological afflictions. He`s outclassed by obama along most any metric. Still i wonder if a deep seated dread and refusal to accept reality inactivates doubt, skepticism, critical thought.
When white Americans were asked if African Americans experience a lot of discrimination in the US, half said no. Among evangelical Christians, 60% said "no". *

When African Americans were asked, 85% said yes. I'm wondering what is wrong with the 15%. But whatever.

Younger people, people who have gone to college, women all have higher awareness of prejudice. White men answered "no" prejudice 57% of the time.

There are a lot people who deny racism exists even though objective evidence says it does. Most definitely.

The only answer is to improve education. Even then, education only increase the number with higher awareness by about 10%-15%. I think you are on to something when you mention tribal awareness. Also, people don't want to consider the fact that they have it better due to an accident of birth. Usually, the openly bigoted or racist are in fact not doing all that well. They want to tell you about their hardships. I can't help but wonder about these people. If they can't succeed with all the privilege, imagine how dire their situation would be in the face of systematic prejudice?

*This from a Public Religion Research Institute survey published 6/21/17
 
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Heil Tweetler

Well-Known Member
When white Americans were asked if African Americans experience a lot of discrimination in the US, half said no. Among evangelical Christians, 60% said "no". *

When African Americans were asked, 85% said yes. I'm wondering what is wrong with the 15%. But whatever.

Younger people, people who have gone to college, women all have higher awareness of prejudice. White men answered "no" prejudice 57% of the time.

There are a lot people who deny racism exists even though objective evidence says it does. Most definitely.

The only answer is to improve education. Even then, education only increase the number with higher awareness by about 10%-15%. I think you are on to something when you mention tribal awareness. Also, people don't want to consider the fact that they have it better due to an accident of birth. Usually, they are in fact not doing all that well. They want to tell you about their hardships. I can't help but wonder about these people. If they can't succeed with all the privilege, imagine how dire their situation would be in the face of systematic prejudice?

*This from a Public Religion Research Institute survey published 6/21/17
Ya a more intelligent critically thinking culture and institutions that support and reward it would be fantastic

Plenty of shit heads are against learning, learning is changing. Its antithetical to some.
Its probably not good for big biz or military industrial complex either.
 
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