Personally Experienced Strain Recommendations Wanted

Johnny McChroni

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First off, two things: One, sorry I'm so long-winded. Can't help it. I've always been this way. But I want people answering this to have a really good idea of what my situation is so they can make the best-informed recommendations possible. Secondly, an incidental question because this is pissing me off: how the hell to you produce enters in forum entries? I like writing in paragraph form, and having to run everything in a fucking chunk is really irritating me. Now on to the post. I know similar topics have been done a hundred times, but I'm hoping a few experienced growers will take the time to offer me some information on strains. Before I ask, I'll give you some information, so you have an idea of the conditions I'm working with, so you can make better recommendations. I grow outdoors, commercially, on the line between a 5b horticultural zone, and a 6a in eastern Canada at 45° north latitude. "First full moon in June" is the old adage for planting, and though I don't use it as a law, I do use it as a rule of thumb. I'll plant as early as a week before the of May, but unless I'm crazy busy, I like to have everything outside by the end of the first week of June. But the earlier, the better, obviously. September it starts to cool off, and with fairly frequent rainy days, the humidity stays higher, and considering I grow in a swamp, this is especially true, so mold definitely can be an issue. I can grow into October, because we usually don't see frost in September, and sometimes into the second week of October, but it's been known to happen. Still, full-grown plants should be able to take a few lighter frosts, anyway, but truthfully, because of the mold issue, I'd much rather have everything out of the ground by the second week of September. Because I'm growing commercially, I don't want to have plants that are finicky, or that I'm going to have to fuck with a bunch. I want to check once a week kinda thing, fertilize a few times, pick off dead leaves, maybe do some topping, if it's something the plant takes to, and other than that, basically let them do their thing, so a fertilizer sensitive plant is something I am not interested in. I'm not heavy handed with it, but I like to keep them fed. I use either half, or full 110L bails of VPW30 (professional soil mix, with everything in it, if that tells you nothing), and either make patches of two plants, by dumping the soil out into a levelled pile, or grow right in the half or whole bail. I mix in most of, or a full feed bag of composted cow manure with per full bail of soil, also mix in a good dose of blood meal and bone meal (separately; not in combined form, because the total NPK content is higher when you buy them separately), and upon transplanting, sprinkle both over top the soil, as well as fertilizing with water soluble triple 20 the same way. I will do this again (the triple 20, I mean) at least twice during the growing season - heavier later than on transplanting, obviously. I may get a bag of 10:52:10 for the last fertilization next year, instead of using the triple 20 straight through, depending. Many of my transplants will be clones, rooted, then vegged for 2 weeks before planting, but some of them will be 4-5+ foot mothers, which I obviously expect to do far more than the clones will. I've tried a few different strains, and know of others that acquaintances have used with success, and I have standbys from seeds found in bought weed, and some crosses of these, but I'm looking for some new blood. Considering my conditions, methods, and aims, what I'm looking for are strains that you've either personally grown, or had whole-season observation of someone else growing. Not to be rude, but I am not interested in general statements like 'try this breeder,' or 'I've heard this strain is good,' or 'this strain has a longstanding reputation.' No offence to anyone, but that information is all very easily discoverable all over every forum on the internet, and I'm tired of sifting through that shit. What I'm looking for is firsthand knowledge, and though I don't mind hearing about experience with strains we've all heard about, what I'm most hoping for are unknown gems. I want to know specific breeder and specific seedbank information. There are strains all over the place that have multiple versions of them floating around, and I don't want to end up picking up some variation of something you've grown from a different source, only to find out the hard way it ain't the same thing. I am used to pulling a pound or more a plant off the mothers that go out, and expect this. I'm used to seeing 300g or more come off a clone, and I expect this, as well. I don't want a mother that isn't going to produce anything less than 300g, and I don't want a clone that'll produce anything less than 200g - and if you've got strains that will top my expectations, I wanna hear about them, and feel free to offer specifics about your experiences...it all gives me a more detailed perception, and I like that. I've seen plants, under the right conditions, in an ideal season, grow 14' tall and produce 2lb per plant, and I know it's possible. If you know of strains like that that will perform where I'm located, and not have to be harvested the middle of fucking October, I wanna hear about them. If they are plants that will be done the first or second week of September, all the better; I wanna know that, too. And obviously, I want quality. I'm not one of those idiots who has no problem gramming out half-assed smoke to no-nothings on the street downtown. I'm almost 40, and I've been smoking dope since I was 15. I'm no kid, and when I started out, I was hanging out with old-schoolers that were my age now, so I know what real good dope is. I've been growing outdoors and indoors for quite awhile, and I don't consort with kiddies, so what I'm looking for is quality weed, not just average street dope. M39 quality is far less than acceptable to me. Considering I'm looking for a big producer, I don't expect something that's going to lay out a long-time chronic smoker, but I want something that people are gonna want to come back for, as opposed to seeking shit elsewhere, ya know what I mean? A happy customer is good business. There. Sorry again for the long post, but if you made it this far and have some quality information for me, please hit me up. And again, to the people who don't have truly good information to offer, while I'm sure your information would be useful to someone, please don't clutter up this thread with stuff I'm not going to be able to make use of. I'm intelligent, mature, experienced, and knowledgeable. What I'm looking for is information from people who have checks in all those boxes as well. Thanks in advance to anyone who has something to offer.
 

getawaymountain

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Holy fuck that was long. lol

ya can bet on jumbo grizzly from kooteney mountain - we grew it in maine coastal wet weather and had no problem hard lemony desiely skunky buds pretty purple red and yellow leaves and buds at the end done mid - end sept and was 3/4 lb in 20 gallon grow bag real easy trimming and great bag appeal
 

northeastmarco

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long winded,lol try dinafem blue widow 1/2 lb+ plants without topping,turns purple when ripe,finishes mid to late sept
 

Johnny McChroni

Active Member
ya can bet on jumbo grizzly from kooteney mountain - we grew it in maine coastal wet weather and had no problem hard lemony desiely skunky buds pretty purple red and yellow leaves and buds at the end done mid - end sept and was 3/4 lb in 20 gallon grow bag real easy trimming and great bag appeal
getawaymountain - I didn't look hard, but I didn't see a website for Kootenay in the first few results, so I'm gonna assume you picked up your seeds from a seedbank. Know which one?
 

puffntuff

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Dynamite next generation seeds. I'm in the lower part of the state. Finishes last week of sept to 1st week of oct.
 

jason1976

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i personally like burmese kush, perfect structure through 4 grows, all clones simple to clone tastes outstanding beautiful crystal filled buds, i can go on and on. ordered new seeds for it it was so good.
 
And on one's answered my question on how to create spaces between paragraphs yet, either.
Click on the first 'double A' box on the tool bar. It'll switch editors and you can make paragraphs. Drove me crazy, too, until someone gave me a heads up :)

I agree with the guy who grew Blue Widow. I grew her last year and she was very good, easy to grow and she was ready 3rd week in September for me (42 degrees Lat. on the north side of hill at about 1300 feet elevation--it already hit 27 this morning). I don't remember how much she gave me and I guess I forgot to write it down--found the harvest date but not final weight. I remember she was plentiful compared to the Blue City Diesel and Trainwreck that I also grew last year.

I'm very happy with the Royal Cheese (Royal Queen seeds out of the UK) and the White Rhino (Greenhouse Seeds out of Holland), both feminized, that I grew this year for the first time. I got 12 oz off Cheese and 11 oz off Rhino. They finished a little late, I took the last of everything down today, but it was a terrible summer here, weatherwise: windy, smoky from forest fires for a month in July--I call this the Summer of the Red Sun for us. The plants themselves got about 7' tall, and they are hybrids, with Cheese a 60/40 Indica/Sativa and Rhino a 90/10 Indica/Sativa. The were neat and tidy, easy to prune leaves or problem areas and they are extremely sturdy! The fall rains started early this year, mid-September, and Cheese and Rhino were the only two plants I grew that did not suffer any damage in the rain and wind. They just stood there and took it while Sour Kush and Kerala Krush just broke down all over the place. No mold, either. They seemed to just shed the water off the buds.

I also like Blue Dream, which grew a little lanky this year compared to last year but I think the weather made it do that. They got about 10' tall and were also very easy to tend to. They are a 90/10 Sativa/Indica. I had a little trouble with branches cracking in the wind this year that I didn't have last year. The plants seem to have produced more this year than last year, though, which I find weird. I grew 6 of them this year and I have gotten 17 ounces off one plant. The others are running right around 12 ounces each. Blue Dream is very reliable for me; I think of her as a very friendly plant. Blue Dream harvested Oct. 3 last year and September 25 this year. She's pretty much the back-bone of my garden, I grow 1/2 of it in Blue Dream every year as she's a reliable producer and not a squeaky wheel. She's a clone for me, though, as she's popular in this whole area and I've never looked for seeds for her. Try Herbies Seeds for a start?

I'm a lazy gardener and grow outside in raised beds for personal use. I'm also fairly new at this with this year being only my 3rd garden. I don't top or prune back for bushy-ness, I just let 'em grow how they want. I fed everybody maybe 3 times all season and I grow in a generic garden soil with Happy Frog soil amendment worked in before I plant. I water a lot when they wilt and otherwise pretty much ignore them except to look at. That's it. This is Blue Dream waving at the neighbors over the fence:
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Can't see any of the others from this angle but you get the idea. The pic was taken about 10 days or so before I began taking selected buds from the plants. I took the last little stuff (experimenting, I've got to learn somehow!) down today. We'll see how it compares to the rest of the harvest.

Wow, I got long-winded, too! Hope this helps you in your research.
 

BWG707

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Love the sarcasm. Thanks. ;) If that worked, doncha think it'd be a little unlikely I'd be asking this question? I just hit enter like 10 times before printing this sentence, and you see what happened. Nada.
I'm sorry, didn't completely understand what you were trying to do. Are you talking about indenting?
Because you could simply use your space key. It seems to do the same as the double A key. Maybe I'm way off base, didn't mean to sound sarcastic.
 

Johnny McChroni

Active Member
I'm sorry, didn't completely understand what you were trying to do. Are you talking about indenting?
Because you could simply use your space key. It seems to do the same as the double A key. Maybe I'm way off base, didn't mean to sound sarcastic.
All good. I didn't take offence, and as you can see, I just slung it right back. ;) But what I'm talking about isn't indenting, it's simply separating paragraphs. I want to be able to hit enter a couple times, and put a blank line between my paragraphs - as there's supposed to be. But it doesn't work. I hit enter, and nothing happens - literally. However, Jazzman's Gal did provide the solution, I see. When I click that, whatever it does allows me to use enters normally.

I'm quite happy about that. ;)

And Jazzman's Gal? I'll get to your post tomorrow. It's 20 after 1 where I'm at, and I've got to hit the sack.;)
 

kratos015

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Get yourself some Blue Dream, it's the absolute best and most forgiving strain that I've ever grown. I've had a few 2lb Blue Dream plants last year but this time I didn't get as much of a yield because I didn't let them get as big as last year. Just be careful, when people see monsters in your yard they start finding ways to rip you. Anyway, to answer your question, get yourself some Blue Dream seeds or clones for the best outdoor results. Look into some compost tea recipes as well and you'll be set! :)
 

Johnny McChroni

Active Member
I'm very happy with the Royal Cheese (Royal Queen seeds out of the UK) and the White Rhino (Greenhouse Seeds out of Holland), both feminized, that I grew this year for the first time. I got 12 oz off Cheese and 11 oz off Rhino. They finished a little late, I took the last of everything down today, but it was a terrible summer here, weatherwise: windy, smoky from forest fires for a month in July--I call this the Summer of the Red Sun for us. The plants themselves got about 7' tall, and they are hybrids, with Cheese a 60/40 Indica/Sativa and Rhino a 90/10 Indica/Sativa. The were neat and tidy, easy to prune leaves or problem areas and they are extremely sturdy! The fall rains started early this year, mid-September, and Cheese and Rhino were the only two plants I grew that did not suffer any damage in the rain and wind. They just stood there and took it while Sour Kush and Kerala Krush just broke down all over the place. No mold, either. They seemed to just shed the water off the buds.
Thanks for taking all the time you did, babe. Much appreciated. This is the kind of response I'm really hoping to get. I like to hear reports about performance in all the pertinent areas; it really gives me a much better insight into a strain, which is what's going to sell me on choosing a new one, in the end.

A couple questions: what was the humidity like during September where you're at? And was 27 (I'm assuming you mean Celsius) a typical temperature for you to reach? I haven't seen anything over 22 in the past two weeks, and there were only a couple of days like that. Most hovered between the 15 and 20 mark, with the nights going down to anywhere between 8 and 12. What were your nights like? Obviously I'm curious because of how these things factor into your lack of mold.

Also, when you say 'Happy Frog,' are you talking about this: Happy Frog Soil Conditioner? And can you say how much of an effect it had? I.e., having a grow where you've used the same strain or - even better - having used clones from the same mother as you did this year, and having not used it, so that you have a point of reference for comparison? I would think that my use of composted cowshit would have a similar effect, but it might be something I'd consider looking into adding in, if the effect of it was going to be pronounced enough to justify it. And out of curiosity, how much is it a bag, and how far does a bag go?

And one last comment: always take your main colas and heavy buds before the small stuff. Always. As I'm sure you know, the plant will put the energy into fattening up the smaller ones on the plant, and if you have good weather, it can definitely make a difference in your final numbers. Mind you, stressing the plant is definitely a factor, too. I wish I could put my plants in my backyard, so I could pick at them every day, but that's just not something I'd even think about taking the chance on doing.
 

Spittn4cash

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i personally like burmese kush, perfect structure through 4 grows, all clones simple to clone tastes outstanding beautiful crystal filled buds, i can go on and on. ordered new seeds for it it was so good.
my BUKU hermied on me :(

But TH Seeds Wreckage is the shizznit!

I've grown 6 different strains so far this year, and only Wreckage has been worth talking about.

SinCity's Dream N Sour is vegging VERY nicely - she might be awesome too!

Wreckage and Dream N Sour are going to be my keeper strains until forever.
 
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