Peyote questions

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mikevm328

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alright, so my buddy just came across peyote, or so i thought. i call the guy, and i ask him how much a button, cause i mean, thats peyote. and he tells me that, his guy gets the cactus, extracts the substance (is that the mescaline in the cactus?) and puts it in pill capsules, and one pill will last like 12 hours.

im a little sketched out and just want some information from others with experience with it.
 
CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

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I think it's a shame if your buddy's guy extracts the mescaline from the peyote. That's what trichs are for. Peyote is chalk-full of other alkaloids which in combination with the mesc create an experience unique from anything I've experienced. That's what makes peyote unparalleled from other mescaline containing plants. It's also the slowest growing plant in the whole world! To reach full maturity can take up to 15-20 years!! I hope this peyote is greenhouse grown and not wild.. There is a lot of evidence to say this plant is endangered in the wild from over harvesting.

I feel as if this guy is raping the holy sacrement. Why?! When there are so many trichs to isolate the mescaline from... I can't help it, this makes me angry at the blatant disrespect for such a plant.:cuss:I'm sure Grandfather is upset..

As for your other peyote/mescaline questions please check out the erowid entry:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/peyote/

I don't mean to come off like a righteous prick, but this genuinely upsets me. Nothing against you, my friend. But my recommendation to you is to try and get some of the whole buttons and ingest that way for a full and life changing experience. It's different than pure mesc. If a peyotl plant is going to be sacrificed, it must be used in full. It's like killing a buffalo, taking its head and leaving the body. Disgusting..
 
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mikevm328

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i completly understand. and this is why ive been researching for an hour, finding nothing about pill extractions. ive onec had a very heavy trip on mushrooms, it was almost spiritual for me, my whole life ran through my head, and i truly felt connected to the world, my buddies tripping with me and i felt like we had some connection with each other, talking through our minds lol, we were tripping hard. and when i came back, i was reborn, i never felt like i understood life quite like i did when i was on them. since ive wanted to do peyote. or mescaline. for that spiritual beautiful trip.

i just dont know how to find it. what are your thoughts on san padro
 
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CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

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I recently had a wonderful journey with four feet of SP that I made some tea with. San pedro, Peruvian Torch and Bridgesii among a few others are very powerful teachers as well. Even though they contain the same base alkaloid, mescaline, they produce a different experience than that of peyote when ingested, but can be equally as rewarding. Highly recommended :D They are legal for ornamental purposes and can be found online and in garden centers if your eye is sharp enough.
 
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CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

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And AFAIK when mesc extractions are performed, the trichocereus cacti are used. Certainly not peyote. NEVER heard of that. Anyone that is lucky enough to be introduced to a peyote plant usually is awestruck at its beauty and power. Not measuring up its mescaline content. It deserves respect. And has earned just that through the millenia. But obviously not from this guy extracting from the peyotl. Makes me cringe at the thought of it..
 
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mikevm328

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i honestly dont think its peyote. even the person i talked to, when i ask about buttons, he said some comment like, "you dont eat the cactus" and when he said it was a pill, thats when i came here posted this, and when on with my research. if he is extracting anything, it surely isnt peyote. its on the east coast of florida, hes not gettin that stuff easy.

well i will certainly try SP. i want to do peyote in my life. weather i grow it and do it when im 50, i will do it lol. if you have any sources of actually getting peyote that is matured and ready to ingest, that information would be greatly appreciated
 
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ANC

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I hope its not yotes, nothing against a good extraction on the other mescaline producing species...
In fact I'm haveing a sit down in between shakeing bottles right now.
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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CaNNaBiZ CaNucK said:
And AFAIK when mesc extractions are performed, the trichocereus cacti are used. Certainly not peyote. NEVER heard of that. Anyone that is lucky enough to be introduced to a peyote plant usually is awestruck at its beauty and power. Not measuring up its mescaline content. It deserves respect. And has earned just that through the millenia. But obviously not from this guy extracting from the peyotl. Makes me cringe at the thought of it..
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Exactly! Awe struck and gut strucked :lol:
 
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okayimreloaded said:
i heard about that. how is the high like???
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Well, I happened to jot down a few notes to another interested psychonaut the other night. I figured I'd post a snippet of my peyote journey here.

The four 15 year old 'yotes that I purchased, combined with a bit peruvian torch that I threw into the mix to boost my mescaline intake, procured an experience that I will not even bother to try describing here. In short, truly life changing. Perspectives and truths revealed about myself and the nature of the cosmos. Sounds hokey, right? But with my experience, true. This experience was drastically different than my San Pedro trips alone. The torch I ate along with the 'yotes did reinforce the peyote trip, but I know the difference now that I've tripped on trichs alone and that trip was all peyote. Simply amazing.

The weeks leading up to the arrival my beautiful little 'yotes consisted of delving into native american culture and music. I spent a great deal of that trip with gorgeous peyote songs dancing through my ears. I believe I saw Grandfather that night. I laid on my bed with all of the lights out and let the spirits dance. Behind the graceful geometric patterns floating in space I caught sight of a whispy character lurking behind the scenes. Occasionally he would casually step out into the 'light' and show his face with a quick unintmidating lunge toward me and left with a faint tracer. He didn't say anything, but I think he is waiting for our next encounter to whisper his secrets to me. The beautiful pulse of the waterdrum and sweet voices of the singers massaging my eardrums all along.

Whew, sorry bout that.. I've never actually written that experience out before. It felt good to finally spew out the experience into words. Even though they still don't do any justice.
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Aside from that strange encounter with GF, the 'high' itself, if you can really call it that, at its onset rememinded me of the familiar LSD trip to an extent. But, for me, that's where the familiarity ended. It was a very sedate feeling, dut to some of the other alkoloids, I'm sure, and very dreamy as well, as opposed to some LSD trips that can be very energetic. As with many other psychs, everything insignificant in our reality became THE significance. I felt so connected to everything animate and inanimate to the point of overwhelmence (not sure if that's even a word) and on the brink of tears. Though, it was a very strong experience, it could be guided as well. I find while using LSD, occasionally it can be difficult to 'snap' out of a certain feeling or sensation. With the peyote I found if things got very intense and/or uncomfortable I could slow it down with ease.

This was not a breakthrough persé, but one of the most important happenings in my life, for sure. I feel as if it may take a few introductions to peyotl to really get to know the experience. And of course a higher dosage. Hoped this gave you an infinitessimal hint of how your peyote journey may unfold.

Happy Trails ;)
 
Spanishfly

Spanishfly

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San Pedro is pretty weak compared with the mescaline content of true peyote, Lophophora williamsii. I have been growing L. williamsii for many years now, often send seeds and plants to cactus growers in the US, where it is BANNED. Land of the not-so -free.
 
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CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

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Spanishfly said:
San Pedro is pretty weak compared with the mescaline content of true peyote, Lophophora williamsii. I have been growing L. williamsii for many years now, often send seeds and plants to cactus growers in the US, where it is BANNED. Land of the not-so -free.
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But any of the trichs can be very powerful teachers too. Not to be underestimated at all ;)
 
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