pics of beginning of flowering. issues with fan leaves.

tropicalcannabispatient

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Looks like overwatering, with ph out of wack, and lockout of cal/mag. Maybe lock out of micros too like iron and zink. Flush with 3x times gallons of water per gallon of soil. Example 5 gal= 15 gal of water, and in the last gallon use a full npk feeding at 1/2 strength. They will come back in 7-10 days. GL
 

skocean

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Ph lockout
So my ph level is messed up and its stopping other nutrients from being absorbed? I have no more cash to spend on this plant. All i have is tap water and a all purpose water soluble 20,20,20. I also have no way to check the ph level in my water. from what i am observing, the buds do not seem to be suffering much...i used lst which produced up to 25 tips and they all have flowers and the trichomes are plentiful and the scents amazing...if i do not fix this issue what can i expect?
 

skocean

Member
So my ph level is messed up and its stopping other nutrients from being absorbed? I have no more cash to spend on this plant. All i have is tap water and a all purpose water soluble 20,20,20. I also have no way to check the ph level in my water. from what i am observing, the buds do not seem to be suffering much...i used lst which produced up to 25 tips and they all have flowers and the trichomes are plentiful and the scents amazing...if i do not fix this issue what can i expect?
Ph lockout
 

tropicalcannabispatient

Well-Known Member
So my ph level is messed up and its stopping other nutrients from being absorbed? I have no more cash to spend on this plant. All i have is tap water and a all purpose water soluble 20,20,20. I also have no way to check the ph level in my water. from what i am observing, the buds do not seem to be suffering much...i used lst which produced up to 25 tips and they all have flowers and the trichomes are plentiful and the scents amazing...if i do not fix this issue what can i expect?
Not the maximum potential that ur plant has to offer. merry xmas!!
 

skocean

Member
whitebb2727 said:
How often are you watering? The soil needs to dry some. As the soil dries the pH swings. You need this as not all nutrients are best absorbed at the same pH.

Back of watering and let it dry some. Better to under water than over water.
Actually i do that...its definitely not over watering
 

az2000

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All i have is tap water and a all purpose water soluble 20,20,20.
Do you know the TDS/PPMs of your tap water? You can grow with tap if the TDS isn't too bad. The higher it is, the more it can cause symptoms like yours. (Mine is 800 and I can't grow with it. I mix tap and RO to get to 150.). That's something you can find out from your water provider. They should know the average (even the compoistion of those PPMs, how much is bad stuff like sodium.).

You can grow with that fertilizer (not knowing the name, but an NPK ratio of 1-1-1 will grow. I'm doing one right now.). And, you should be able to use it without ph'ing. (I don't ph.).

How much do you feed? It could be you're overfeeding, developed salt buildup, and that's acidified your soil (I see others have suggested ph problem. That's the only reason I mention that possibility. Watering with 20-30% runoff can rule that out.). It's common for salt-buildup to rear it's ugly head in early to mid flower.
 

skocean

Member
az2000 said:
Do you know the TDS/PPMs of your tap water? You can grow with tap if the TDS isn't too bad. The higher it is, the more it can cause symptoms like yours. (Mine is 800 and I can't grow with it. I mix tap and RO to get to 150.). That's something you can find out from your water provider. They should know the average (even the compoistion of those PPMs, how much is bad stuff like sodium.).

You can grow with that fertilizer (not knowing the name, but an NPK ratio of 1-1-1 will grow. I'm doing one right now.). And, you should be able to use it without ph'ing. (I don't ph.).

How much do you feed? It could be you're overfeeding, developed salt buildup, and that's acidified your soil (I see others have suggested ph problem. That's the only reason I mention that possibility. Watering with 20-30% runoff can rule that out.). It's common for salt-buildup to rear it's ugly head in early to mid flower.
No i do not know....however i live in a tiny town and my water comes from a well and that water comes from a runoff from a nearby spring. It leaves an orange stain at the bottom of my sinks snd tub.
What is RO?
 

az2000

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I water about every three to four days about a half of litre of water. It has been twice that my leaves started to droop because of being so dry. But after watering, it was fine.
In addition to my preceding post, do you get runoff when you water? How much? (If not much, that too could indicate salt buildup. If you had a ppm meter and had measured your runoff that would be useful information at this point.).

EDIT: RO is reverse osmosis. I don't think you need it. You could call whoever bills you for water and they should be able to give you some good info. It's probably not a bad TDS, but it would still be useful for you to have more info.
 

skocean

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In addition to my preceding post, do you get runoff when you water? How much? (If not much, that too could indicate salt buildup. If you had a ppm meter and had measured your runoff that would be useful information at this point.).
I dont think i get a runoff. Does that mean i am underwatering? Sigh this was my first try. A bag seed. Mystery really. But it grew. I didnt really know what i was doing or what i needed. I took advice before added more light and it was going great till now just as my white hairs are starting to darken. I guess i have a lot to learn if i want to do this again.
 
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