Pineapple Express G13 Lab's Seed to Harvest

SCOTTYBALLS said:

Ok lets see if these things are all they are cracked up to be.. Germination started this mourning.. I will be using this tried and trued set up

Feminized Pineapple Express
Cabinet 29"X19"X50"
1 water farm
Flora Nova bloom (start to finish)
400W Ceramic Metal Hylide or CMH (new for me)

I avg about 10-15 oz depending on strain with a HPS lets see what we can get out of PE with a CMH and a waterfarm..

First Picture is G13's packaging. The Second is my last harvest of Nirvana Blue Mystic Cant start a thread with no bud pictures now can we?

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Hi recently found your thread and started growing with your method, ive been growing for years and used nft trays and the full canna range. I bought a few waterfarms and some floranova bloom. i had been growing for about 4 weeks and was using the canna feed as i hadnt recieved the novaflora yet and everything was going well. I changed the tank this week and statred to use the novaflora. That was 2 days ago and on checking them today the one with canna is fine floranova 1 looks as if its dying, its wilting and leaves are yellowing. EC is running at 1.2 so not to much nutes. Ive just emptied the tank and i am flushing to see if i can save her. Any ideas would be great. cheers


p.s. im in scotland as well, props for your grow.

Scottyballs inspired me to grow this Casey Jones Waterfarm Beast . Final Dry wieght 1 lb 2.5 oz .

First i would like to say thank you scottyballs this has been one of the best reads ive had in long time. like so many others have said im inspired to try the water farm which a friend of mines gifted me a while ago. im sure your no following this thread any more but if there is anyone else still here maybe you could answer this question. I was wondering if i could sub mother earths bloom(3-2-5) instead of flora nova bloom? only ask cause i already have the mother earth bloom and would like to use that before i get more newts

cubabdi said:

First i would like to say thank you scottyballs this has been one of the best reads ive had in long time. like so many others have said im inspired to try the water farm which a friend of mines gifted me a while ago. im sure your no following this thread any more but if there is anyone else still here maybe you could answer this question. I was wondering if i could sub mother earths bloom(3-2-5) instead of flora nova bloom? only ask cause i already have the mother earth bloom and would like to use that before i get more newts

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Why not? It's worth a try. You don't have to do it exactly how he did it. No harm in trying new things. Who knows, maybe it will turn out even better.

do you think that i will be ok using it by it self i been trying to do as much research as possible on it as i can and still lost. most threads i read people are using as additive or as base with the whole line of AN additives

and if you go to AN nutrients calculator they dont even let you put mother earth as base nutrient. trying to get general idea of what dose gives me what ppm so i can try and game plan but im totally lost with this one. trying to get a grasp on how this n-k-p thing works and how it convert with 100-100-200 thing man my head is spinning

To be honest with you. Just follow a specific Lucas Formula. That's what I do.

indeed.what strains are you growing? im currently waiting on some pineapple express, ak-48, and critical sensi star. the ak ive done before was pretty good smoke but i let it go due to the strong as smell. the critical sensi star is a freebie so she might not get popped this go around going do some research on her to see what she about. and needless to say i got the pe from this thread alone lol

PE currently

nice hows it going for ya? whats your setup? im going to be running 600watt in a 5x5x6 tent 450cfm fan and filter. i leaning towards running 2 waterfarms in it with both being pe since my ak48 aren't fem. im throw the ak48 in dirt till i find the females take clones from them and then put in supersoil i had brewing for past two months and see how that work out.

on more thing mr if i want to use the link you had for the condensed version of this thread i have to pay?

Yes i still follow the thread from time to time.. and you can use whatever nutrients you want Flora nova is just what ive used over the last few years and has been consistant for me and is a simple veg to flower formula in one bottle and i like the ph buffering as I never have to use ph up or ph down.. you can follow me or take your own road long as its a decent nute the plant will be happy either way..

As of now im about to harvest a greenhouse super lemon haze and should yeild a lil over 16oz under a 250w hps and 400w cmh.. this plant is much larger then what i normally do so I added a resivoir with a water pump and ditched the air pump to keep up with the plant since its drinking over 2 gallons a day.. working well.. super lemon haze on the other has taken forever to flower im 68 days into flower and still have a few days to go..

i will follow you Scottyballs, you have marked an amazingly positive vibe and spirit in my life. One that i can now passssss onto many

Im glad you follow the tread form time to time because I always look forward to your input and thrive on your advances in the grow room.

I have a questions for you, if you dont mind.
The first reguards your lighting situation..

Your lighting intrigues me. Is that what you run your entire grow, that wattage? Two hoods? what are the lights brand names?


And your new resivior....
Where do i get this or how do i make this?

Im so excited that your growing Super Lemon Haze. That was the first plant I ever grew and you never forget your first girl!

xoxo
DAT

Hey Dr. amber in this thread page 2 https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/521479-what-waterfarm.html?highlight=what+is+waterfarm i explain everything you need to know above is a drawing i did with paint brush to give you a idea how it works .. and it works 10x better then using a air pump .. no algee growing on rocks or salt build up because the water is not spitting and splashing all over the place..

As far as my lighting go's I use a cheepo batwing reflector's no air cooled hoods, no cool tubes.. keep in mind when light has to pass threw glass your cutting out lumens wich is a bad idea for the bud to watt ratio... For HPS i run phillips son-t-plus bulbs and for CMH I run phillips CMH .. i normally only run a single 400w but I decided to add another light for side lighting since this plant is such a fucking monster.. I have arm size buds laying all over the place falling over from the weight I tide some of them up but not all of them since im about to bring it down anyway.... I run a 100w MH for vege then switch to CMH when i go to flower and add a 250w hps if I need more light..

I have had the most high end reflectors out from PL and saw no improvment over a $20 batwing (use a pebbled hood).. that being said like everything else I recomend to keep it simple.. high end nutes, reflectors, whatever Ill put my simple setup aginst any aero setup with the most high end lights and most expensive nutes money can buy and I can match or beat them all in quality and yeild. let me know if you have any other questions.

what did this evantually yield??

Yo Scotty...first off I just harvested my first grow from a waterfarm using your method. Many thanks for your journal and outline. I'm so glad you're checking in and showing your new mods.

Also are you still growing in your small cab? How is the heat from all the lights being taken care of? How often are you changing the water and I'm assuming it's as simple as removing the tote and dumping out all the water am I correct?

When topping off the res are you using plain water or nutrient water? I was using plain water so as not to cause an imbalance in the nutes the plant wasn't taking up.

Can you post some pics of your set up...I would love to start using the new set up you've got and I'm having a tough time figuring out the drawing. And this is a huge request...I would kill to see another journal with your new setup. That would be fuckin EPIC!! Think about it.

Thanks again hommie for the knowledge. YOU ROCK!!

Harvest will be tomarrow... finale yeild will not be for another week or so.. I may take a few shots of the set up when Im done if i have time.. I top off with fresh water till I reach 4 gallons of topped of water wich is equal to the 4 galons of nutes solution.. also every other nute change i flushed the system with straight water so the roots have a chance to flush toxxins usally for about 24 hours.. you would be surprised what this dose I put in water at 39 ppm and next day it rose to 200-300 ppm. And yes i just dump the tote after the plant drinks about 2 gallons to make it easyier.. and no cab this time this one was a planned monster I could fill up 3 of those cabs with this one..

Thanks for the tips!!

Is your res just an open 4 gallon container, if it is do you worry about evaporation or keeping the water cool...or does the water still get enough oxygen from the surface layer of they hydroton? I imagine you don't have to worry about the air line getting clogged anymore.

Where can I get pics of this massive harvest?

Nice grow man, and I am veggin a g13 pe right.now that smells jus like strong coffee and maybe jus a hint of fruit or.vanilla something soft and musky skunky smell all in one. I hope thats the pheno I got. and the bottom leaves the oldest veg was dyin yellow bad off. She eats the hell outta n

Hey Scottyballs. Ive learned of your grow from Ambers thread and have countless times heard your name mentioned in similar WF grow journals I have checked out since which must mean you are a Cannabis demi-god. lol. I have spent ages searching for a waterfarm with a larger res mod and your solution looks very good. So the blue tube lever that you use to drain your res is pouring into the reservoir below and then you have a tube coming from res below up the outside and into the drip ring which pours it through the pebbles back into waterfarm res and then into external res. Is that correct. How do you get the water to flow back up into the drip ring. Is that what the pump is for? How long do you reckon you could leave the plants without having to re fill the res. I want a waterfarm but am planning a scrog in a dr120 so Ill have 120 cm x 120 cm to fill out. I dont want to have to fill every day or a few times a day at the height of flowering like I have read some people have had to do. I hear the aquafarm takes alot longer to reach the res initially so I would prefer not to use one of them. Im planning a six week veg and ten week flower. 4 dr 120's,4 waterfarms,4 plants. 2 tents in flower with 600 watt each and 2 in veg with a t8 each. If I could get 15 ounces a month id be a very happy man.