Pineapple Express G13 Lab's Seed to Harvest

kronmeo

kronmeo

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Scotty,

First off I would like to say great thread! Looks beautiful and you know your stuff. I had have some questions and you seem to know all the right answers. I have spent countless months debating the pros and cons of soil vs. hydro. At first i was all about soil and the great results from threads like subcools supersoil mix. However, after going around town trying to find bat poo and everything else just got me frustrated. So after tonight reading dozens of journals and I came upon yours and all of the hydro hype on dozens of nutes to make plants huge is a bold lie and your proving it with a simple feeding schedule. I plan on going a simple route and use the 1200 dollars i have set aside for growing and use a trusted hydro website to purchase the things i need. What i wanted help with is do you think a simple 3x3x6 tent and scrubber /can fan combo with 400w mh/hps switchable ballast and a couple fans will be good? I also am going to attempt the scrog method. I found pretty much everything on one site if i follow your thread to a T. my other question is which seed bank do i attempt to use? i have emailed a few about shipping to the u.s. and the methods and all that to see if I can actually get a legit reply but days go by without one. any help would be appreciated.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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kronmeo said:
Scotty,

First off I would like to say great thread! Looks beautiful and you know your stuff. I had have some questions and you seem to know all the right answers. I have spent countless months debating the pros and cons of soil vs. hydro. At first i was all about soil and the great results from threads like subcools supersoil mix. However, after going around town trying to find bat poo and everything else just got me frustrated. So after tonight reading dozens of journals and I came upon yours and all of the hydro hype on dozens of nutes to make plants huge is a bold lie and your proving it with a simple feeding schedule. I plan on going a simple route and use the 1200 dollars i have set aside for growing and use a trusted hydro website to purchase the things i need. What i wanted help with is do you think a simple 3x3x6 tent and scrubber /can fan combo with 400w mh/hps switchable ballast and a couple fans will be good? I also am going to attempt the scrog method. I found pretty much everything on one site if i follow your thread to a T. my other question is which seed bank do i attempt to use? i have emailed a few about shipping to the u.s. and the methods and all that to see if I can actually get a legit reply but days go by without one. any help would be appreciated.
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You dont need a bunch of high dollar nutrients and additives. Over the years I found them to cause more problems then they helped. I feel the MOST important thing is the roots the better your root system the better the end product.. I would try to find a growtent in the 7ft + range.. If you go with a waterfarm the stretch is unreal ive seen close to 3" growth a day and a scrog screen really helps spread the love.. If your going to run a scrubber get as big of a fan as possible 450+ Cfm range.. attitude seed bank or Nirvana are good seed companys and there sponsors of rollitup.. Ive excelent service from both.
 
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oOBe RyeOo

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Damn man that bitch is looking DANK!!! +rep coming your way!

Sucks I can't use a waterfarm... the strain I wanna grow doesn't have fem. seeds. I'm gonna get jilly bean. I'll probably end up using soil to... starting to run out of my already limited funds. I'll be constructing the rest of my cab sometime next week. Probably have my lights by Friday.

Bout to pass out man and I'm definitely gonna have a wet dream bout this. Peace bro!
 
kronmeo

kronmeo

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scotty thanks for the fast reply. yeah i found a perfect tent with a size of 4x4x7. i was just looking at a hydro store and saw a water farm 20gal ? you seen it? my thing I cant really grasp is how to keep a tent cool and also to control the odor. im setting up in my basement and since winter is near and i get 30 degree days here i think cool temps around the tent are going to be simple. I just dont get the whole fresh air deal? I mean with a scrubber and a inline fan cooling the vented shade will floor fans circulating keep the air fresh enough? im worried about pulling fresh air in from the basement cuz i dont wanna get dust and bugs coming in. also I dont wanna have the res temp climb and lead to algae or root rot. I have little experience on ventilation as you can see!
 
Silent Running

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SCOTTYBALLS said:
Moving on.. Stretch has slowed thankfully and starting to pack on some weight. So what do I think about PE so far? let me just start off by saying im really starting to like this strain.. I was removing some of the lower growth and my arm brushed up on one of the buds and man I just cant stop sniffing my arm its super lemony I mean just like a damn lemon with a skunk aftertone smells fucking awsome I would have to think gods vagina cant be far from this:hump: Crystals are freaking everywhere she is a sticky mess!

PPM 1600
PH 5.78
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Looking awesome Scotty!! I want to go skiing down the 4th picture.
 
Serapis

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kronmeo said:
scotty thanks for the fast reply. yeah i found a perfect tent with a size of 4x4x7. i was just looking at a hydro store and saw a water farm 20gal ? you seen it? my thing I cant really grasp is how to keep a tent cool and also to control the odor. im setting up in my basement and since winter is near and i get 30 degree days here i think cool temps around the tent are going to be simple. I just dont get the whole fresh air deal? I mean with a scrubber and a inline fan cooling the vented shade will floor fans circulating keep the air fresh enough? im worried about pulling fresh air in from the basement cuz i dont wanna get dust and bugs coming in. also I dont wanna have the res temp climb and lead to algae or root rot. I have little experience on ventilation as you can see!
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Fresh air is important. You can regulate when it comes in with a thermometer switch or a timer. As far as bugs and dust go, cover the intake vent duct with a pair of pantyhose. I assume you are going to keep the tent in negative pressure by using a 450 cfm exhaust fan passing through a carbon scrub. As that fan pulls in air from the tent to exhaust it, a passive intake allows new air in. You'll use a separate fan to pull outside air through your air cooled hood and exhaust that air back outside. (However in the winter, you may want the heat from the light to stay in the tent.)

I also recommend you get some insulated construction sheets and lay them on the floor and tape the seams. That concrete is going to get real cold and transfer that into the floor of your tent. That will not be good for your reservoir or roots. You may need a reservoir heater in winter as well.

Scotty, did I get it right?

Your grow is looking fucking fab man!... I can't wait to ID my mother plant...
 
kronmeo

kronmeo

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serapis thanks for the info. hey scotty whats the feeding schedule look like? i was wondering how much you took the ppm up each week and if you used h202 to clean them roots every once in a while.. I noticed in a lot of hydro journals guys like to add it to the water.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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Silent Running said:
Looking awesome Scotty!! I want to go skiing down the 4th picture.
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Yeah skiing comes to mind when I see your Av lol.. ;)

Serapis said:
Fresh air is important. You can regulate when it comes in with a thermometer switch or a timer. As far as bugs and dust go, cover the intake vent duct with a pair of pantyhose. I assume you are going to keep the tent in negative pressure by using a 450 cfm exhaust fan passing through a carbon scrub. As that fan pulls in air from the tent to exhaust it, a passive intake allows new air in. You'll use a separate fan to pull outside air through your air cooled hood and exhaust that air back outside. (However in the winter, you may want the heat from the light to stay in the tent.)

I also recommend you get some insulated construction sheets and lay them on the floor and tape the seams. That concrete is going to get real cold and transfer that into the floor of your tent. That will not be good for your reservoir or roots. You may need a reservoir heater in winter as well.

Scotty, did I get it right?

Your grow is looking fucking fab man!... I can't wait to ID my mother plant...
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Thanks man and yeah summed it up to me..

kronmeo said:
serapis thanks for the info. hey scotty whats the feeding schedule look like? i was wondering how much you took the ppm up each week and if you used h202 to clean them roots every once in a while.. I noticed in a lot of hydro journals guys like to add it to the water.
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I have used H2O2 in the past and its good stuff when used right.. however its not necisary if you cover the top of the water farm with foil wich stops light from hitting the hydroton wich stops allgey from forming in the first place.. also stops water from evaporating and leaving behind salt build ups.. I take the nutes up depending on what the plant is using with a PPM meter.. but on average about 150-200ppm
 
kronmeo

kronmeo

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thanks scotty,

been spending all day making the purchase list on everything i will need to order to get growing :D hopefully within the next few weeks i will have a journal up! BTW i wanted to pick your brain on a good beginner scrog strain?. I have my heart set on TGA Subcools Cheese Quake but also know this is my first time at growing and dont wanna get in over my head. especially since im kinda paranoid on having to mess with the plant to fill out the screen. hope i do it right! also are you just taking a daily water/ppm sample from the drain tube or is there a way to check ppm uptake without actually having to dip the pen in the rez? i also will be a monitoring my plants daily . i work from home so i can tend to my garden as much as it needs me
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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kronmeo said:
thanks scotty,

been spending all day making the purchase list on everything i will need to order to get growing :D hopefully within the next few weeks i will have a journal up! BTW i wanted to pick your brain on a good beginner scrog strain?. I have my heart set on TGA Subcools Cheese Quake but also know this is my first time at growing and dont wanna get in over my head. especially since im kinda paranoid on having to mess with the plant to fill out the screen. hope i do it right! also are you just taking a daily water/ppm sample from the drain tube or is there a way to check ppm uptake without actually having to dip the pen in the rez? i also will be a monitoring my plants daily . i work from home so i can tend to my garden as much as it needs me
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I was really happy with Nirvana's blue mystic.. bendable branches decent yeild and powerful enough to knock you on your ass and awsome price + feminized. Yeah I take a sample everyday after topping off with fresh water.. I just keep a cup in the cabinet drain a lil take reading and Im done..
 
londonfog

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SCOTTYBALLS said:
Moving on.. Stretch has slowed thankfully and starting to pack on some weight. So what do I think about PE so far? let me just start off by saying im really starting to like this strain.. I was removing some of the lower growth and my arm brushed up on one of the buds and man I just cant stop sniffing my arm its super lemony I mean just like a damn lemon with a skunk aftertone smells fucking awsome I would have to think gods vagina cant be far from this:hump: Crystals are freaking everywhere she is a sticky mess!

PPM 1600
PH 5.78
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looking real good:weed:..yeah that PE matures quick...and she is a stinker...
 
kronmeo

kronmeo

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hey scotty gotta quick question. for an area say 4x4x6 im wondering the proper distance for the light? i know the water farm is 15" and i plan on placing the screen 12-15" above that. i ordered a 6" vented hood so i could get the light pretty close after i get the screen filled out. I just didnt know if i should just leave it at a set distance due to my height restrictions. also my basement gets pretty cold at night during the winter so i may need to not vent the hood to keep the cab warm. i went crazy and got a 450+cfm fan/filter combo and then in gonna run a inline duct booster fan to pull fresh air in. it says the cfm is 425 so if it holds true i should be in business.
 
bongmarley2009

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Scotty, I'm getting ready to fire up my project this week. 250w MH/HPS and 1 waterfarm with flora nova bloom. CH9 Jack. I'm pretty excited.
 
SCOTTYBALLS

SCOTTYBALLS

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kronmeo said:
hey scotty gotta quick question. for an area say 4x4x6 im wondering the proper distance for the light? i know the water farm is 15" and i plan on placing the screen 12-15" above that. i ordered a 6" vented hood so i could get the light pretty close after i get the screen filled out. I just didnt know if i should just leave it at a set distance due to my height restrictions. also my basement gets pretty cold at night during the winter so i may need to not vent the hood to keep the cab warm. i went crazy and got a 450+cfm fan/filter combo and then in gonna run a inline duct booster fan to pull fresh air in. it says the cfm is 425 so if it holds true i should be in business.
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My light is not even adjustable its mounted to the shelf..... 54,000 lumens in a area this small and there is no need to get the light close as poslible.. my cab is coated from the ceiling to the floor with mylar. even seedlings 4ft away grow short with tight nodes.. consentrate more on keeping the temps down..

Your ventilation sounds perfect.. your going to want to run that exhaust fan whenever that light is on if your running a 400w.. i dont care if its only 30 degrees its will still get up in the 90's to 100's without any ventalation.. ideal for you would be to get a thermastat switch that you could plug your fan into so it kicks on a say 78 degrees and off at 74 ish.. I have a portable A/C that regulates my grow room so I dont need a switch...
 
The Snowman

The Snowman

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SCOTTYBALLS said:
My light is not even adjustable its mounted to the shelf..... 54,000 lumens in a area this small and there is no need to get the light close as poslible.. my cab is coated from the ceiling to the floor with mylar. even seedlings 4ft away grow short with tight nodes.. consentrate more on keeping the temps down..

Your ventilation sounds perfect.. your going to want to run that exhaust fan whenever that light is on if your running a 400w.. i dont care if its only 30 degrees its will still get up in the 90's to 100's without any ventalation.. ideal for you would be to get a thermastat switch that you could plug your fan into so it kicks on a say 78 degrees and off at 74 ish.. I have a portable A/C that regulates my grow room so I dont need a switch...
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where can you get a switch like that?
 
The Snowman

The Snowman

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what is your cfm on your fan, and what do your temps normally run at? do you have an intake fan? sorry for all the questions, i'm just trying to set up something similar
 
tikihutkid

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Scotty, im follwing you. I have had g13 PE sitting here for quite some months. Ive been a bit busy with my other ones but after seeing this you have put it back on my priority list. will be germing them tonight.

Single use of blooms is quite intriguing. I will do some research on it.

Good looks.
 
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