Plant Moisture Stress - Symptoms and Solutions

letitgrow77

letitgrow77

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Hey uncle Ben! I opened a new thread but noone has been able to help. I have 2 plants from the same strain. They are about 54 days ole and have been flowering for 25 days now. One of the plants showed her sex the first week of flowering, but the second plant hasn't yet..is this normal? Kinda freaking me out! Thanks for any input!!
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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DobermanGuy said:
UB, do you do a water only in between fertilizing or do you do a lower ratio and fert every watering???

I know there's a few who want to know that...well, i do anyways. Hope you don't care about the quote in my sig (I shortened it). Figured id try to assist in your enlightening of the minds.
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If your soil mix is heavy in organics which have a nutrient charge and tend to hold certain ions, then no you don't have to fertilize with every watering. Plants prefer a constant supply of essential elements though.

letitgrow77 said:
Hey uncle Ben! I opened a new thread but noone has been able to help. I have 2 plants from the same strain. They are about 54 days ole and have been flowering for 25 days now. One of the plants showed her sex the first week of flowering, but the second plant hasn't yet..is this normal? Kinda freaking me out! Thanks for any input!!
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Flowering for 25 days and not showing? Something is wrong with your light situation or you got alot of sativa in that mutt.

Good luck,
UB
 
letitgrow77

letitgrow77

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Uncle Ben said:
If your soil mix is heavy in organics which have a nutrient charge and tend to hold certain ions, then no you don't have to fertilize with every watering. Plants prefer a constant supply of essential elements though.



Flowering for 25 days and not showing? Something is wrong with your light situation or you got alot of sativa in that mutt.

Good luck,
UB
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Uncle Ben here are my girls...sorry for the book im about to write but i really need some help, i want to get this right!! They came from some good bagseed, started them off in some really low grade soil then transferred 2 weeks ago into some foxfarm ocean forrest. When i transplanted i used 1 tablespoon per gallon of water of foxfarm bigbloom and watered lightly. I use brita filtered water which sits out for few days or rain water when possible. i think i overwatered them a couple of weeks ago but i would think they would have come back from that already. i have a moisture meter now..My pH levels are around 6.8. Getting really discouraged:-|:confused:..they used to look so healthy and happy!!please help guys!!! maybe a nutrient lockout? Mn?
 

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Uncle Ben

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letitgrow77 said:
Uncle Ben here are my girls...sorry for the book im about to write but i really need some help, i want to get this right!! They came from some good bagseed, started them off in some really low grade soil then transferred 2 weeks ago into some foxfarm ocean forrest. When i transplanted i used 1 tablespoon per gallon of water of foxfarm bigbloom and watered lightly. I use brita filtered water which sits out for few days or rain water when possible. i think i overwatered them a couple of weeks ago but i would think they would have come back from that already. i have a moisture meter now..My pH levels are around 6.8. Getting really discouraged:-|:confused:..they used to look so healthy and happy!!please help guys!!! maybe a nutrient lockout? Mn?
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I can't open up those pix but from what I see in the thumbnails, looks like you toasted them with a high K low N food. If the root system was screwed up, they may never come back, only remain stunted or die. Good root health is the foundation of robust plants.

Kelvin color should have no bearing on the flowering response. In fact, based on my experiments, kelvin color has no direct bearing on anything. It does serve as a "new" topic for every new crop of noobs though. :D

UB
 
Uncle Ben

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Recommend you write them off to experience. They will forever be stunted and not produce. Check for the usual insect damage, high salts issues, overwatering, etc.

Thanks for the nice photos.

Tio
 
letitgrow77

letitgrow77

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Ima give them another week, if they don't show signs of improvement then ill give them a proper burial lol. Trail and error! As a noob I paid way too much attention to them
 
drherbalist

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So long as the stunting wasn't due to some insect infestation (root/fungus gnats) could the plant still be used for other medical uses? Like a root salve or.... ???
 
DobermanGuy

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drherbalist said:
So long as the stunting wasn't due to some insect infestation (root/fungus gnats) could the plant still be used for other medical uses? Like a root salve or.... ???
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dont think so man. someone else might chime in. cut you losses and get rid of that fella. You dont want any other men aroumd your ladies, do you?
 
drherbalist

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But what if it is a female? Is there anything you can use the plant for in terms of ointments, rubs, salves, etc. instead of just throwing it away?
 
DobermanGuy

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drherbalist said:
But what if it is a female? Is there anything you can use the plant for in terms of ointments, rubs, salves, etc. instead of just throwing it away?
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that might be better answered through google, i cant help. You'll have to (should if you want the most THC) wait until pickin time anyways.
(the pic w/ the finger is a MALE if you are not aware, those sacs/balls are very noticeable, useless except for breeding)
 
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FLB

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Just finished all 106 pages of this thread. I think you Uncle Ben may be an angel. Your patience is unbelievable, to answer the same questions over and over. Your approach on growing is something I have been searching for a long time. School of no BS, Im enrolled! In fact, if people took this approach to life, there would be alot less drama in this world. Anyways.....just letting you know you are appreciated very much. To take time out of your day to help the new guys shows your true passion for our sacred plant. I was having some problems myself and after reading this thread it all made since what I was doing. Pushing on them too much. Thanks Uncle Ben for all your time here. Much RESPECT!!
 
letitgrow77

letitgrow77

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Uncle Ben said:
Recommend you write them off to experience. They will forever be stunted and not produce. Check for the usual insect damage, high salts issues, overwatering, etc.

Thanks for the nice photos.

Tio
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good afternoon guys! wanted to know if you think a good flushing would help my girls out?
 
Uncle Ben

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FLB said:
Just finished all 106 pages of this thread. I think you Uncle Ben may be an angel. Your patience is unbelievable, to answer the same questions over and over. Your approach on growing is something I have been searching for a long time. School of no BS, Im enrolled! In fact, if people took this approach to life, there would be alot less drama in this world. Anyways.....just letting you know you are appreciated very much. To take time out of your day to help the new guys shows your true passion for our sacred plant. I was having some problems myself and after reading this thread it all made since what I was doing. Pushing on them too much. Thanks Uncle Ben for all your time here. Much RESPECT!!
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Thanks for the nice post!

Fellas, you push your plants and they will "settle accounts" with lower yields. Learn patience and moderation.

UB
 
medicalmary

medicalmary

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hi ub,

I've read quite a few of your stickies and that copper hydroxide experiment you ran on drugs forum. Good stuff, you know your botany. Got a couple quick questions i would like you to answer.

I have some vanilla kush plants that are showing slight leaf burn because I believe they were over fertilized. I'm being told by some it is a magnesium deficiency and others it is a ph imbalance in the soil (causing lockout) b/c i added flour dolemite lime to correct ph of sunshine #4 mix.
What's really interesting is the slight browning only occurred on the first set of fan leaves coming off the second node 24 hrs after topping. There is one plant that was still developing it's sixth node, so it wasn't topped and it is the only one which is not showing the symptoms. Not scientific, but interesting. Do you think that after topping the redirection of starches and nutrients may caused the browning to be localized to the older growth? Just a theory. Love to know what ya think.

here is a link to the more info.:
https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/334440-beginning-something-suspicious-need-help.html

oh yeah, my course of action so far has been to flush all containers. Also, the plants are 3 weeks old. Can salt buildup occur that quickly? They were repotted in 1 gallons about a week and half ago.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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medicalmary said:
hi ub,

I've read quite a few of your stickies and that copper hydroxide experiment you ran on drugs forum. Good stuff, you know your botany. Got a couple quick questions i would like you to answer.

I have some vanilla kush plants that are showing slight leaf burn because I believe they were over fertilized. I'm being told by some it is a magnesium deficiency and others it is a ph imbalance in the soil (causing lockout) b/c i added flour dolemite lime to correct ph of sunshine #4 mix.
What's really interesting is the slight browning only occurred on the first set of fan leaves coming off the second node 24 hrs after topping. There is one plant that was still developing it's sixth node, so it wasn't topped and it is the only one which is not showing the symptoms. Not scientific, but interesting. Do you think that after topping the redirection of starches and nutrients may caused the browning to be localized to the older growth? Just a theory. Love to know what ya think.

here is a link to the more info.:
https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/334440-beginning-something-suspicious-need-help.html

oh yeah, my course of action so far has been to flush all containers. Also, the plants are 3 weeks old. Can salt buildup occur that quickly? They were repotted in 1 gallons about a week and half ago.
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Topping has nothing to do with any imbalances. Salt buildup is gradual based on salts received. If you have them in too large of pots based on their needs, that's not a good thing.

IOW, I don't have a clue.

UB
 
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