PLS HELP!!!!!!!Diesel fem &amnaesia haze auto.is it normal???? .this is my second grow..

Solaipraveen

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Nutrient strenght:150ppmfor diesel and 50ppm for seedlings whichsprouted before 2weeks.
Medium:cocopeat,perlite,vermiculite.

What do u guys think abt the first set of leaves.but the other leaves are fine..is it normal ???or what could be the cause..pls help me..thanks in advance. :bigjoint::leaf:
 
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Xcoregamerskillz

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Nutrient strenght:150ppmfor diesel and 50ppm for seedlings whichsprouted before 2weeks.
Medium:cocopeat,perlite,vermiculite.

What do u guys think abt the first set of leaves.but the other leaves are fine..is it normal ???or what could be the cause..pls help me..thanks in advance. :bigjoint::leaf:
It is perfectly normal for the cotyledon leaves to die off and turn brown.
 

Bugeye

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It is not normal for them to go so early. Also note the single point leaves are already gone and the leaf structure on the two little ones is poor/failing. I don't grow in the medium you are using but I can tell you something is off with your nutes. Also, avoid getting young plants wet until the main stem hardens off, they are very vulnerable to damping off until the stem hardens.
 

Kcbscrogger

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It is not normal for them to go so early. Also note the single point leaves are already gone and the leaf structure on the two little ones is poor/failing. I don't grow in the medium you are using but I can tell you something is off with your nutes. Also, avoid getting young plants wet until the main stem hardens off, they are very vulnerable to damping off until the stem hardens.
Your soil is way too wet especially for a plant that size, I'd back off on the water and I've never been a fan of foliar spraying but to each their own.
 

Bugeye

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Your soil is way too wet especially for a plant that size, I'd back off on the water and I've never been a fan of foliar spraying but to each their own.
Please post a picture of your soil right after you water so I can understand what you are talking about. Clearly his pots were just watered.
 

Budley Doright

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It is perfectly normal for the cotyledon leaves to die off and turn brown.
No it's not normal IMO and yes there is something wrong, again IMO, my guess is over watering and his roots are suffering for it. I watch my cotyledons and if they die it's the first sign of an unhappy plant and at the start I've found with me it's typically over zealous watering cycles as I'm in hydro, outdoors in my soil they can take lots of water without damage but indoors not so much. I have 6 growing now and 21 days in the cotyledons are still happy and green, I'll post a pic when they awaken ;).
 

Xcoregamerskillz

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No it's not normal IMO and yes there is something wrong, again IMO, my guess is over watering and his roots are suffering for it. I watch my cotyledons and if they die it's the first sign of an unhappy plant and at the start I've found with me it's typically over zealous watering cycles as I'm in hydro, outdoors in my soil they can take lots of water without damage but indoors not so much. I have 6 growing now and 21 days in the cotyledons are still happy and green, I'll post a pic when they awaken ;).
My plant looked similar at that age, and is doing just fine now, his first set of true leaves is a little yellow, is keep an eye on that, but freaking out about a little yellowing is not the way to go. If it spreads, then be concerned.
 

Budley Doright

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My plant looked similar at that age, and is doing just fine now, his first set of true leaves is a little yellow, is keep an eye on that, but freaking out about a little yellowing is not the way to go. If it spreads, then be concerned.
Who said anything about freaking out? He asked if he had issues and he does. It is not normal and that is what I said. Saying it is normal when it is not is just bad advice but lots of that here lol. Guess your plant had watering issues as well. You think that plant looks normal?
 

SouthCross

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Stop giving them fertilizer. Don't add a thing until 3-4weeks old. All the stuff you added messed it up. There's enough stuff in the bare bones soil to support the plant till at least 12" tall. Trying to rush growth with added stuff jacks it up.
 

Budley Doright

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My plant looked similar at that age, and is doing just fine now, his first set of true leaves is a little yellow, is keep an eye on that, but freaking out about a little yellowing is not the way to go. If it spreads, then be concerned.
Oh I got it ..... first grow advice giver lol.
 

OldMedUser

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It is perfectly normal for the cotyledon leaves to die off and turn brown.
I expect mine to die. They are just there to feed the emerging true leaves until the roots can start supplying nutrients to further growth,

Stop giving them fertilizer. Don't add a thing until 3-4weeks old. All the stuff you added messed it up. There's enough stuff in the bare bones soil to support the plant till at least 12" tall. Trying to rush growth with added stuff jacks it up.
The media he's using doesn't have any nutes at all to start with so it needs something added to feed the plants. Potting soil or something like Fox Farms has lots of basic nutes to start a plant but he's not using anything like that.

@Solaipraveen you shouldn't be spraying the plants. It doesn't help and can cause leaf damage or bring on stem rot or fungus attacks.

Good luck.

:peace:
 

Xcoregamerskillz

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Oh I got it ..... first grow advice giver lol.
We all give advice from our experience or research, my friend. No one had posted anything, so I decided to share my experience. I never, ever, claim to know more than anyone here. You don't have to attack me because I'm new at growing.
 

Budley Doright

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"I expect mine to die. They are just there to feed the emerging true leaves until the roots can start supplying nutes"

Really? They die on your plants at 2 weeks too? The second set of leaves are also, shall we say stressed, lol. Every plant that I've grown in hydro, if healthy and happy, will not drop them, on the other hand, the ones that have issues at the start will curl up, turn light brown and die, it typically is due to water cycles. At around 8ish I'll grab a pic of a 21 day old set and post it. Am I missing something here, seems pretty apparent to me these are not healthy?
 

Budley Doright

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We all give advice from our experience or research, my friend. No one had posted anything, so I decided to share my experience. I never, ever, claim to know more than anyone here. You don't have to attack me because I'm new at growing.
No, I would never attack anyone for giving advice, I got, yes a tad aggravated when you said I was freaking out .... opps. What you gave wasn't advice. It was a first time grower telling someone it's perfectly normal when it's not normal, not to mention the plant it self. Will it die? Probably not, but a healthy, happy plant does not drop them in two weeks. Do lots? Yup, cause 90% of seedlings are over watered or over nuted IMO. Now if you would have said that you have had them die on your "first grow" and they were fine, then that would have been really cool ;).
 

Xcoregamerskillz

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No, I would never attack anyone for giving advice, I got, yes a tad aggravated when you said I was freaking out .... opps. What you gave wasn't advice. It was a first time grower telling someone it's perfectly normal when it's not normal, not to mention the plant it self. Will it die? Probably not, but a healthy, happy plant does not drop them in two weeks. Do lots? Yup, cause 90% of seedlings are over watered or over nuted IMO. Now if you would have said that you have had them die on your "first grow" and they were fine, then that would have been really cool ;).
I didn't mean you specifically were freaking out, my bad. All I did say was what happened to my plant, so...

Any way, yeah, I did have water issues at the start, so I'm going to ask a question no one had yet: How's your pot drainage?? That was my issue with my seedlings.
"I expect mine to die. They are just there to feed the emerging true leaves until the roots can start supplying nutes"

Really? They die on your plants at 2 weeks too? The second set of leaves are also, shall we say stressed, lol. Every plant that I've grown in hydro, if healthy and happy, will not drop them, on the other hand, the ones that have issues at the start will curl up, turn light brown and die, it typically is due to water cycles. At around 8ish I'll grab a pic of a 21 day old set and post it. Am I missing something here, seems pretty apparent to me these are not healthy?
Maybe the rest of us are missing something. Not specific to MJ, but I've grown fruits, veggies, and flowers before, and they all seem to "eat" the cotyledon between 10-14 days, in my experience. So you having yours at three weeks is interesting.
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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Im slightly confused as usual so Im going to blather about what I think could also be the issue but I'm only giving my observation/opinion. I sprout seeds in a damp paper towel, yep sure do and its great. Sometimes I (not you) get busy with life and forget about them for a day or 3 and they've grown very vigorous and robust but longish.If I plant them in a "soil" type medium that is mostly devoid of nutrition the cotyledons go quickly. So in theory yes it is due to a problem but how severe? Not that severe in my opinion but its only my theory and not law. Getting leaves wet is bad practice in my opinion as it could invite all sorts of issues and burn the leaves under the lights like in the one picture that may have also helped do in the cotyledons. Just saying. It may also be easier for those that bathe their plants with liquid nutrition like in hydro to keep them green longer?
 

Budley Doright

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I didn't mean you specifically were freaking out, my bad. All I did say was what happened to my plant, so...

Any way, yeah, I did have water issues at the start, so I'm going to ask a question no one had yet: How's your pot drainage?? That was my issue with my seedlings.

Maybe the rest of us are missing something. Not specific to MJ, but I've grown fruits, veggies, and flowers before, and they all seem to "eat" the cotyledon between 10-14 days, in my experience. So you having yours at three weeks is interesting.
No not really interesting, the first thing I watch for is the health of the cotyledon. If it shows stress I tend to change things like the water cycle and check PH. Yes hydro is different than soil and honestly as many plants that I've grown in soil it's pretty much the same but again it's not a sign that the plant is going to die but it is a sign that it could, root rot comes to mind ;).
 

Budley Doright

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" All I did say was what happened to my plant, so..."
"It is perfectly normal for the cotyledon leaves to die off and turn brown."

Nope that's not what you said lol.
 
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