PM battle.

trapdevil

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Coo cool.

So not surprisingly i finding some girls with Pm in veg area, share air.

So how long should i keep them in that area while i clean the flower area and if i’ve seen PM should i toss it or can i get it gone before i move to flower ? I’ve never seen it this early and pretty sure it’s because there’s some in the flower room.

going to burn the veg and flower area and keep them in the veg area while i clean the flower area throughly. then hope i don’t see any pm pop up for like a week then move them over to flower.

Going to add amino acids and silica too.
 

Blent

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Coo cool.

So not surprisingly i finding some girls with Pm in veg area, share air.

So how long should i keep them in that area while i clean the flower area and if i’ve seen PM should i toss it or can i get it gone before i move to flower ? I’ve never seen it this early and pretty sure it’s because there’s some in the flower room.

going to burn the veg and flower area and keep them in the veg area while i clean the flower area throughly. then hope i don’t see any pm pop up for like a week then move them over to flower.

Going to add amino acids and silica too.
It's probably too late to fix with the amino and silica as this needs to be part of the plants structure from day 1. You really need to find the source of the PM and eliminate it.
 

trapdevil

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It's probably too late to fix with the amino and silica as this needs to be part of the plants structure from day 1. You really need to find the source of the PM and eliminate it.
Haha yeah i never seem to find an answer to that.

I have 10 in the last week of flowering now with slight PM issues.

I have 29 or so in Veg. with a few popping up with real light PM on the growth near the bottom / where least light was.

After I harvest the flower room this upcoming weekend. I’m going to sulfur burn both rooms. Flower will be empty and veg full. Then bleach and physan 20 clean the flower room, fans, dehumidifier, humidifier, lights, rdwc set up.

While at the same time sulfur burning and adding amino acids and silica to their diet in the veg room. Keep them in their for another week or two and hope to not see any PM appear if I do, i’ll chop down and start from seed.

This run other than week 1&2 were 75-82 degrees and 39-47% Humidity. All tracked on Sensor push to my phone with graphs and blah blah.

week 1&2, temps were in the 60s. humidity a bit higher.

I have 2 fans on each side of the canopy so 4 total. With a intake fan with a Phresh Filter. And a exhaust.

Humidity never spiked more than 9%. Temps never spiked more than 8, either direction.

So honestly not sure how the fuxk it is appearing.

Just don’t want to trash my girls in Veg. have a few testers for people and don’t want to wait that extra 5 weeks to veg again but can’t do this PM through flower againZ

The 10 i harvested last week had Pm maybe a bit worse than the 10 im harvesting next but i can’t deal with this Pm again haha. so stressful for me at least
 

trapdevil

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Regalia. Every 3 days on everything. Probably take a month to get outbreaks under control.

Then after outbreaks are in control....clean everything with m-pede or sanidate or xerotol...I use naccosan.
Hha damn shits pricy!!

Spraying plays with it or cleaning room with it?

I have Physan 20.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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Hha damn shits pricy!!

Spraying plays with it or cleaning room with it?

I have Physan 20.
Naccosan is not for plants...

Regalia is for pm , you can spray all day(no crazy intense light/heat or it can burn hairs), let it set in darkness for best results.

Physan 20 is great..I just got 4 G bottles of naccosan
 

trapdevil

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Naccosan is not for plants...

Regalia is for pm , you can spray all day(no crazy intense light/heat or it can burn hairs), let it set in darkness for best results.

Physan 20 is great..I just got 4 G bottles of naccosan
Naccosan is the only one i did not check out.

So i’ll clean room with mix of Physan 20 a few days and then a bleach mix a few days and sulfur burning.

then maybe spray the veg plants with Regalia while also carefully cleaning that room and also burning sulfur.

Will also burn sulfur in the room I change in and mix nutes. also wipe everything down in there.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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Naccosan is the only one i did not check out.

So i’ll clean room with mix of Physan 20 a few days and then a bleach mix a few days and sulfur burning.

then maybe spray the veg plants with Regalia while also carefully cleaning that room and also burning sulfur.

Will also burn sulfur in the room I change in and mix nutes. also wipe everything down in there.
Thats a good routine, as soon as you start to use regalia im fairly positive you won't need to use sulfur but ive used a sulfur burner in the past , id give it 2 days between burns and regalia applications...maybe do a trial on one leaf first
 

Justkickinit420

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Thats a good routine, as soon as you start to use regalia im fairly positive you won't need to use sulfur but ive used a sulfur burner in the past , id give it 2 days between burns and regalia applications...maybe do a trial on one leaf first
Hopefully your no where around ( defiantly not in your house) when this suffer is burning since it’s extremely bad for the lungs/eyes
 

Samwell Seed Well

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Hopefully your no where around ( defiantly not in your house) when this suffer is burning since it’s extremely bad for the lungs/eyes
Ya, im not sure who would stay in that environment, common sense dicates dont breath the toxic sulfur vapors...

Also only burn in the dark

Give your room 3-4 hours before l lights on after
 

trapdevil

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Thats a good routine, as soon as you start to use regalia im fairly positive you won't need to use sulfur but ive used a sulfur burner in the past , id give it 2 days between burns and regalia applications...maybe do a trial on one leaf first
The sulfur burner is more going to be for the empty flower room.

But regalia i’ll use to keep the PM off the veg plants and then add to the IPM. with silica and amino acids and my great white
 
When a pm spore lands on leaf surface it roots a taproot and draws the water from the leaf. This happens with high humidity but more common with high nitrogen levels.
Lower nitrogen but more importantly add amino acids before calcium to create pectin.
Once the pm tap root sets root there is no water to uptake just pectin. This will eliminate pm.
I now keep high humidity high temps (great VPD) w no pm, ever
What are things I should look for when looking for amino acids?
 

Justkickinit420

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L handed aminos.
I’ve used NPK aminos, house and garden aminos. Now I use Life, then stackswell, veg/bloom then shine/monsterbloom(alt)
 

Bosgrower

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In veg, Regalia can be used both as a topical and a drench. Read the label for mixing instructions. You should also look into UV-C lights to kill spores in the environment. You have to use them sparingly or you'll BBQ your plants, and you can't expose yourself to the light. If you still get some activity in the latter stages of flower, 1 1/2 - 3% hydrogen peroxide as a topical should see you through to harvest. Your leaves will discolor but the flowers should be clean.
 

trapdevil

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So the girls in flower are getting the chop this weekend

After the chop I’m cleaning the shit out of the flower room and sulfur burning both.

Like how long should I wait to transition my veg girls to flower? 1 week after seeing no PM? 2 weeks no pm? I’d rather establish if any are affected before transitioning to flower.


So like I clean the room with Physan 20 and bleach and burn the empty room with sulfur for a week, every 2 days. While keeping the temps warm.

Will also Sulfur burn veg room and clean the room around the plants.

Like theoretically if the plants are not affected and i keep the temps 72-80. Humidity 38-46. Steady rate of fresh air and circulation on all plants while also lollipoping and they are in a scrog. Also exhaust goes all the time.

Adding Silica Blast and going to get amino acids.

Will get regalia, although pricy will use as preventative and cheaper than a rushed/shit/stressed flower period.
Will sulfur burn 1 a week for 3 weeks once they are in flower room.

theoretically i shouldn’t see PM..??? lol i never saw pm first like year of growing then all of a sudden this fall it has come
back like 3 grows in a row.

I also realized I was just AN nutes prior to like the last 8 months when i’ve started playing with different nutes.. hmmm
 

trapdevil

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So I chopped everything in flower room.

I discarded of any plant in veg that resembled PM on anything.

Now a few days later i’m not really noticing PM on leaves in veg room but on the stems of the lower leaves almost? Is that common?

think i’m going to toss errything in veg also and wipe down everything and pop new seeds.

Which is a bummer because I had some tester seeds and some stuff I was excited to run but can’t do a Pm battle again if I can avoid.

Hoping with a full room clean down and new plants should not see it( along with obviously keeping environment in control)

also going to paint walls and mine as well use that Killz stuff ! might help
 
Regalia. Every 3 days on everything. Probably take a month to get outbreaks under control.

Then after outbreaks are in control....clean everything with m-pede or sanidate or xerotol...I use naccosan.
what is your experience using sanidate? I have the 5.0 and am using it to clean my rolling benches and walls that are covered in FRP panels. Do you know of any other uses or have any suggestions?
 

Samwell Seed Well

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what is your experience using sanidate? I have the 5.0 and am using it to clean my rolling benches and walls that are covered in FRP panels. Do you know of any other uses or have any suggestions?
Sanidate is a little harsher then a few other cleaners that are plant safe when diluted to the safe label rates.

But its an amazing cleaner, ive used it in multiple facilities
 
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