Pollinating for seeds - not sure if the process began ????

GelenaAK420

GelenaAK420

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If you have pollinated for seeds yourself or seen someone do this, please read on and reply your input. I have a friend of mine that is trying to attempt to do this.. She had a female (two to two and a half weeks) into flowering which is the picture attached. She pollinated the crap out of it using tip of a hobby paint brush, being very careful not to touch any pistols. But it's been six days since and we aren't seeing any pistols drying up or dying....? Are we suppose to ? The only thing that we are noticing is that the buds are growing larger - is this normal for buds to continue to grow larger if pollinated .......?......and she had dusted the crap out of her heavily, making sure every flower had got dusted.... I am wondering if plant was too far into flowering ? We are pretty sure no way past 2 to 2 1/2 weeks, but looking at the first pic, I thought you may be able to make a better judgment call. Hey Man, thanks for your help..:leaf: The second picture ( last one ) is of the plant six days later.....:confused:
 

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Redneck Snowman

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I have seen it done once but can't really remember how far into flowering before he pollinated. I want to say around 2 weeks. Heard that you don't want to wait too far into that stage or it may not take..... not sure if that sounds right.
But I really think that you just haven't waited that long enough before the seed pods will start to show. Have patience. If your friend dusted them real good, I promise they will turn into seeds. Sorry, I tried to find some articulars or videos here or on the web but they are not clear on your subject of concern. They don't mention really when or how many days. But I did read some/few people say that after 5 to 7 days the pistols start to die off....????
Good luck and if you don't mind, please keep me posted cause I would like to try this myself.
 
Smokebomb420

Smokebomb420

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I pollinated like 12plants last time and the seeds are there bro, dont worry. If you want tell her to take a sample nug to smoke if it doesnt have seeds well tell her she needs to watch more marijuana videos. and if it does you can probably tell how many are in the general area.
 
redzi

redzi

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I suggest using a small brush to pollinate your females....simply shaking a male plant over a female will generate lots of seeds but takes longer and makes for lower strength smoke. Right before the flowers open cut the branches and stick in water...I use a small beaker sitting on a sheet of mylar. Let at least a few flowers drop their pollen (no moving air) before cutting. The pollen wants to stick to everything so using the smoothest, sharpest blade to collect the pollen up off the mylar. Wax paper can also be used.
 
GelenaAK420

GelenaAK420

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redzi said:
I suggest using a small brush to pollinate your females....simply shaking a male plant over a female will generate lots of seeds but takes longer and makes for lower strength smoke. Right before the flowers open cut the branches and stick in water...I use a small beaker sitting on a sheet of mylar. Let at least a few flowers drop their pollen (no moving air) before cutting. The pollen wants to stick to everything so using the smoothest, sharpest blade to collect the pollen up off the mylar. Wax paper can also be used.
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Hey, that sounds smart cause that way you can collect all the pollen, I would think... But the pollen won't be effected if gotten wet ???? :confused:
 
Dr. Who

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Mylar, wax paper,,,,,,to much work. Slip a plastic bag over the branch you want to collect from, being sure no available male flowers are outside the bag. Cut branch off and holding the bag tightly around the stem of the branch,,,,,shake, shake, shake.......You now have a bag of pollen.....Go well away from your area (outside is best) and carefully remove the plant branch from the bag.....Pollen can be stored frozen.

Notes to keep in mind.
So, you have pollenated a female......Your plant will now have the traits of both to one point or another.....You don't know what traits have passed or are going to be expressed by growing it. They could be good, they could be not so good......You must now grow it out to see.
Your new strain is NOT stable....If you pollenate it with the pollen of a "new" male from your seed stock. It will simply revert to the most dominate strain in control of the plant. Same for attempting to make only female seeds. With very little of the other plant being expressed. You also have a good chance of expressing undesirable traits like HERMING!... If you use the original male pollen your on the way to back crossing some stability into it....I'll go no further on that here as I don't have the time and the most important things I have to say are coming up.

When you breed. To get the best of what your trying to do......You grow 100 of each plant (and this is a small amount to start from) to a certain stage where you can pick the best and most healthy plants expressing the traits you desire.....From those you might chose like 10 of each.....This is your breed stock. This is VERY important once you reach the F2 stage....
Next is the back crossing to stabilize your new breed. This is not easy and is VERY time consuming.....If done with a "say-la vie" attitude. A ways down the road you will still get the reversion to the dominate traits and/or the ones you don't want....

So your single cross breed is not stable...this is now weak genetics......don't let this get out of your grow to weaken the available gene pool of others.......Enjoy it at home.....don't be tempted to share and let the monster loose! I know you don't want to hear this....but the truth hurts sometimes....

Learn more:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2788.html

These 2 books should be required reading for any novice breeder.
http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Botany-Advanced-Propagation-Distinctive/dp/091417178X

http://www.amazon.com/The-Cannabis-Breeders-Bible-Definitive/dp/1931160279
 
redzi

redzi

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GelenaAK420 said:
Hey, that sounds smart cause that way you can collect all the pollen, I would think... But the pollen won't be effected if gotten wet ???? :confused:
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Actually if your worried about a female that you don't want pollinated just keep spraying water on the male plant because the pollen seems to be worthless after getting wet.....I also found that even with a drying agent like rice or the things they put in pill bottles pollen doesn't last any longer than 30-45 days frozen...at least that has been my experience. don't know what I pressed to underline this.
 
redzi

redzi

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Dr. Who said:
Mylar, wax paper,,,,,,to much work. Slip a plastic bag over the branch you want to collect from, being sure no available male flowers are outside the bag. Cut branch off and holding the bag tightly around the stem of the branch,,,,,shake, shake, shake.......You now have a bag of pollen.....Go well away from your area (outside is best) and carefully remove the plant branch from the bag.....Pollen can be stored frozen.

Notes to keep in mind.
So, you have pollenated a female......Your plant will now have the traits of both to one point or another.....You don't know what traits have passed or are going to be expressed by growing it. They could be good, they could be not so good......You must now grow it out to see.
Your new strain is NOT stable....If you pollenate it with the pollen of a "new" male from your seed stock. It will simply revert to the most dominate strain in control of the plant. Same for attempting to make only female seeds. With very little of the other plant being expressed. You also have a good chance of expressing undesirable traits like HERMING!... If you use the original male pollen your on the way to back crossing some stability into it....I'll go no further on that here as I don't have the time and the most important things I have to say are coming up.

When you breed. To get the best of what your trying to do......You grow 100 of each plant (and this is a small amount to start from) to a certain stage where you can pick the best and most healthy plants expressing the traits you desire.....From those you might chose like 10 of each.....This is your breed stock. This is VERY important once you reach the F2 stage....
Next is the back crossing to stabilize your new breed. This is not easy and is VERY time consuming.....If done with a "say-la vie" attitude. A ways down the road you will still get the reversion to the dominate traits and/or the ones you don't want....

So your single cross breed is not stable...this is now weak genetics......don't let this get out of your grow to weaken the available gene pool of others.......Enjoy it at home.....don't be tempted to share and let the monster loose! I know you don't want to hear this....but the truth hurts sometimes....

Learn more:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2788.html

These 2 books should be required reading for any novice breeder.
http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Botany-Advanced-Propagation-Distinctive/dp/091417178X

http://www.amazon.com/The-Cannabis-Breeders-Bible-Definitive/dp/1931160279
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Dr. Who said:
Mylar, wax paper,,,,,,to much work. Slip a plastic bag over the branch you want to collect from, being sure no available male flowers are outside the bag. Cut branch off and holding the bag tightly around the stem of the branch,,,,,shake, shake, shake.......You now have a bag of pollen.....Go well away from your area (outside is best) and carefully remove the plant branch from the bag.....Pollen can be stored frozen.

Notes to keep in mind.
So, you have pollenated a female......Your plant will now have the traits of both to one point or another.....You don't know what traits have passed or are going to be expressed by growing it. They could be good, they could be not so good......You must now grow it out to see.
Your new strain is NOT stable....If you pollenate it with the pollen of a "new" male from your seed stock. It will simply revert to the most dominate strain in control of the plant. Same for attempting to make only female seeds. With very little of the other plant being expressed. You also have a good chance of expressing undesirable traits like HERMING!... If you use the original male pollen your on the way to back crossing some stability into it....I'll go no further on that here as I don't have the time and the most important things I have to say are coming up.

When you breed. To get the best of what your trying to do......You grow 100 of each plant (and this is a small amount to start from) to a certain stage where you can pick the best and most healthy plants expressing the traits you desire.....From those you might chose like 10 of each.....This is your breed stock. This is VERY important once you reach the F2 stage....
Next is the back crossing to stabilize your new breed. This is not easy and is VERY time consuming.....If done with a "say-la vie" attitude. A ways down the road you will still get the reversion to the dominate traits and/or the ones you don't want....

So your single cross breed is not stable...this is now weak genetics......don't let this get out of your grow to weaken the available gene pool of others.......Enjoy it at home.....don't be tempted to share and let the monster loose! I know you don't want to hear this....but the truth hurts sometimes....

Learn more:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2788.html

These 2 books should be required reading for any novice breeder.
http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Botany-Advanced-Propagation-Distinctive/dp/091417178X

http://www.amazon.com/The-Cannabis-Breeders-Bible-Definitive/dp/1931160279
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You wont get Herming if you start out with good genetics and the bad method is fine if you want to collect less than a gram of pollen. If your going to the trouble of breeding at least be willing to shell out enough $$$ for the non Nirvana or Female grade seeds. My Ice beans puts Female seeds Ice to shame.
 
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