poormans grow

hashishan said:

the only problem is i have no credit card.and that is how they catch growers here anyway.florida.

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You could get a prepaid card and they couldn't track it.

temp in my box is 80f. temp next to my plant i will have to check later as there are too many eyes now.for soil i used home made compost mixed with sand.(its what i had)but the soil has become hard.and for ventilation i have a inn take fan and a out take fan.i will have to post newer pics later but here are some old ones.https://www.rollitup.org/members/hashishan-albums-first-grow.html

alright so the temp next to my plant is like 81f 82fpics coming soon

ghetto ass setup....

intake fan...

out take fan....

cfls doing there thing.two cfls on the biggest plant with a 17w flurecent tube in the corner.

this is how close cfl 1 is to my plant

this is how close cfl 2 is to my plant.it usually on but it was too much light for the pic

my first 7 bladed leaf

new growth on plant with the leaves sagging(Why?)

these are pics from today anyone see any flaws let me know please.also why are the leaves sagging?

if its around 80-82F you should be ok on temp man. But if your worried about it give it some CO2.

I watched a grow video that suggested spraying the plant with carbonated water. So I tried it and it seems to be doing well. looks more resilient.

I just but a 2 liter bottle of Carbonated water from the grocery store, put it in a spray bottle, and i spray the leaves everyday with it. been doing it about a week.

also, SInce we have similar set ups I'll let you know my specs.

I got 3 cardboard boxes 18"widex18"longx21"tall (this is when they are in use as boxes with flaps on top.

I turned them on their sides so flaps face out, and cut them and taped them to make a small little closet. lined it with duct tape and mylar.

its about 1.5'x2'x4'tall. 1 comp fan intake, near bottom, 1 out take near top, and 1 like 8 inch osilating fan in side for circulation by plant.

i have 6 26watt 6500K CFLs right now for veg, and I'm guna use 4 40Watt 2500K CFLs for buding. maybe more than that not sure yet.

I just have a single plant so i dont need as much light as you got.

If your soil is getting hard I would think that is not draining well enough and not enough air space in the soil to get air to the roots and giving them an easy place to grow. I assume that you did put holes in the bottom of the cups. Looks like it's getting time to repot, if you can I would use Foxfarm Ocean Forest soil or maybe one of there other ones. I do know with the ocean forest that they will do really well for about 4 weeks with no other ferts added. Then start adding slowly. Or add some vermiculite or pearlite to the mix, it will give you better drainage as well as hold water in. I can't use my HPS where I am now and have been using CFLs. I have a little over 2x2 by 4 feet high and started using 42watt soft white for veg and flower. I could'nt find any that big in a daylight so I decided to try the softwhite. They have been doing great for veg, nice bushy plants. Just changed to 12/12 light. They are way better than the smaller bulbs. The light travels a lot further. But I also have 9 of them in my box for a total of over 20,000 lumens. Also when you repot try to use square pots if you can. Holds more soil in the same space that they take up. Nothing wrong with a getto setup, we do what we can as money and time allow.

is fox farm a brand that i would be able to pick up at home depot lowes walmart or is st stricktly grow shops.because there are none around here.also yes i have drain holes but im going to make them a little larger as i dont think there doing there job well.thank you all for all your help and for riding this out with me.

They don't have it at Depot,Lowes or Walmart . Hydro/grow stores have it but that does'nt do you any good if you don't have one. Maybe a garden center, I have got it there before. You can go online to Foxfarm website and maybe find the nearest place that carries their stuff. They also have great ferts. I saw your plant from yesterday, looks to me that you gave it way to much water and it wasn't draining well . You want to wet the soil but not soak it. If you moisten the soil with a sprayer and mix it around to get it even but not to wet just damp. Then plant your seedling and just put maybe 1/4 cup right around the base. This has worked very well for me. Also be sure not to pack the soil to tight when you are planting. I don't really pack it at all, just a couple light taps to get it to settle a little. And if your soil does'nt drain well bigger holes probably won't help that much.

hashishan said:

hey is 100w cfls to hot for a small grow box.im not sure but i think thats why my plant is all droopy.it looks like its sleeping.lol.(seriously not funny tho.it looks like a willow tree.anyone know whats up.i dont think its over watering because i let it dry out all the way then water it with about a cup.help me out

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I face similar problems. However, I started mixing in Hydrogen Peroxide with my water i give it.

It helps aerate the soil so the roots can breath.

don't use too much though. I mix 1tsp per 2 cups of water. Then I water my plant with about 1.5 cups and wait for soil to dry. before watering again.

Give it a try. first time I did every leaf on my plant perked up and turned strong green after a day or 2.

i will give it a try...

if you order seeds from attitude, you can pay check or money order...

new pics coming soon.

alright so i kept the plants in veg for a long time just to let them grow and man did they grow.they stink but them on 12/12 a while back.i dont know how long ago i dont keep track of that,but they have buds all over them.they are looking great.never knew this could be so easy.i want to thank you all for helping me out

pictures let me know what you think...https://www.rollitup.org/members/hashishan-albums-first-grow.html