Possibly Mites? Need opinions

jondamon

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heat, wind burn, low humidity, etc. can all make leaves curl
Yep I agree. It could possibly be linked but usually leaf edge roll up from humidity/heat issues is usually more pronounced in the edge of the leaf.

Light too close and usually you’ll get the leaf curling slightly down to shy away from the light so to speak.

wind burn usually it’s a very slight edge curl up usually progressing to drying out of the whole leaf at which point it all begins to curl up from edges.

I’m not saying it’s definitely russet or broad mites. He asked if what he was seeing looked like mites and I said could be russet mite.
 

Hiphophippo

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I would bring up my temp by like four or five degrees and my humidity up by like five or ten percent and should work better for you with that low humidity your top leafs won’t hold as much moisture and dry out quicker than the bottom shaded leafs and get hotter as they’re taking the most intense light do that and raise your light a couple inches and it’ll go away
 

Hiphophippo

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Yep I agree. It could possibly be linked but usually leaf edge roll up from humidity/heat issues is usually more pronounced in the edge of the leaf.

Light too close and usually you’ll get the leaf curling slightly down to shy away from the light so to speak.

wind burn usually it’s a very slight edge curl up usually progressing to drying out of the whole leaf at which point it all begins to curl up from edges.

I’m not saying it’s definitely russet or broad mites. He asked if what he was seeing looked like mites and I said could be russet mite.
Factor in low heat and low humidity with close lights and you’ll get that weird twist their trying to do I have to battle it with the 650 rspec lights at the beginning of every grow of you dial in your room better it’ll go away
 

Steve Phan

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I would bring up my temp by like four or five degrees and my humidity up by like five or ten percent and should work better for you with that low humidity your top leafs won’t hold as much moisture and dry out quicker than the bottom shaded leafs and get hotter as they’re taking the most intense light do that and raise your light a couple inches and it’ll go away
Going to try that, thanks

The 650r produces that much heat?
 

GroBud

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If still in veg and you think you have bugs get dr. Bonner's peppermint soap use 1 to 5tbls a gallon of ro or tap set for 24hrs. Saturate fronts and backs of leaves. I only use 1tbls per gallon the peppermint smell is a pest repellent and the soap will kill pests if they are saturated. I use that on all my outdoor plants. It's not 100% at repelling but I can tell a difference in from when I didn't use it. I will even continue to use it in flower by saturating leaves in my hand that aren't close to buds or wont drip on buds. I'll also spray top soil and cloth pots during flower. Of course no bud need to be sprayed. Use a hand held sprayer on mist. The sprayers are cheaper at harbor freight. Needless information but if you ever have stalk or stem mold I'll use that same mix but turn sprayer to stream instead of mist and just shoot the mold off.

Soap https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00016QTXA?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image

Sprayer

Of course only spray plants before lights on atleast 30 mins or after lights off. And if you have bugs ever dont be afraid to saturate the hell out of everything on that plant top to bottom front to back. Meaning dont just spray infected leaves get the entire plant as mentioned I'll saturate outdoor plants every 3 to 5 days throughout veg rather I have bugs or not
 
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Steve Phan

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If still in veg and you think you have bugs get dr. Bonner's peppermint soap use 1 to 5tbls a gallon of ro or tap set for 24hrs. Saturate fronts and backs of leaves. I only use 1tbls per gallon the peppermint smell is a pest repellent and the soap will kill pests if they are saturated. I use that on all my outdoor plants. It's not 100% at repelling but I can tell a difference in from when I didn't use it. I will even continue to use it in flower by saturating leaves in my hand that aren't close to buds or wont drip on buds. I'll also spray top soil and cloth pots during flower. Of course no bud need to be sprayed. Use a hand held sprayer on mist. The sprayers are cheaper at harbor freight. Needless information but if you ever have stalk or stem mold I'll use that same mix but turn sprayer to stream instead of mist and just shoot the mold off.

Soap https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00016QTXA?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image

Sprayer

Of course only spray plants before lights on atleast 30 mins or after lights off. And if you have bugs ever dont be afraid to saturate the hell out of everything on that plant top to bottom front to back. Meaning dont just spray infected leaves get the entire plant as mentioned I'll saturate outdoor plants every 3 to 5 days throughout veg rather I have bugs or not
Wouldn't it that act like a horticulture oil? don't want it to leave a film, might burn
 

GroBud

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Would it that act like a horticulture oil?
It'll act nothing like neem oil

Insecticidal soap is a non-toxic soap that controls insects by suffocating them or drying out their protective coats. Neem oil has low toxicity and interferes with insects' hormones by affecting their ability to eat, grow, and reproduce. Neem oil combines insecticide, miticide, and fungicide in one solution, and has multiple uses.

Neem oil also hurts soil biology if you use organic soil or amendments over liquids. I dont think spraying leaves matter referring to root drenches
 

Steve Phan

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If still in veg and you think you have bugs get dr. Bonner's peppermint soap use 1 to 5tbls a gallon of ro or tap set for 24hrs. Saturate fronts and backs of leaves. I only use 1tbls per gallon the peppermint smell is a pest repellent and the soap will kill pests if they are saturated. I use that on all my outdoor plants. It's not 100% at repelling but I can tell a difference in from when I didn't use it. I will even continue to use it in flower by saturating leaves in my hand that aren't close to buds or wont drip on buds. I'll also spray top soil and cloth pots during flower. Of course no bud need to be sprayed. Use a hand held sprayer on mist. The sprayers are cheaper at harbor freight. Needless information but if you ever have stalk or stem mold I'll use that same mix but turn sprayer to stream instead of mist and just shoot the mold off.

Soap https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00016QTXA?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image

Sprayer

Of course only spray plants before lights on atleast 30 mins or after lights off. And if you have bugs ever dont be afraid to saturate the hell out of everything on that plant top to bottom front to back. Meaning dont just spray infected leaves get the entire plant as mentioned I'll saturate outdoor plants every 3 to 5 days throughout veg rather I have bugs or not
It'll act nothing like neem oil

Insecticidal soap is a non-toxic soap that controls insects by suffocating them or drying out their protective coats. Neem oil has low toxicity and interferes with insects' hormones by affecting their ability to eat, grow, and reproduce. Neem oil combines insecticide, miticide, and fungicide in one solution, and has multiple uses.

Neem oil also hurts soil biology if you use organic soil or amendments over liquids. I dont think spraying leaves matter referring to root drenches
Have you tried this for Russet/Broad mites?
 

GroBud

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Have you tried this for Russet/Broad mites?
I haven't that I know of. I don't look to see what pests I'm spraying. Just saturate my plants and forget about it.

I would assume they drowned like any other plant insect idk tho
 

GroBud

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Leave this hear soap spray and neem oil are listed, better things probably listed somewhere in all that choose any one of those good luck bud
Natural and Organic Remedies
Isopropyl or Rubbing Alcohol is a great inexpensive way to attack the adult russet mites.

Best to treat before flower, but will still work in early flower before the trichome development.

Note this will not take care of the eggs , you will need another solution listed below.

Use a 1:1 ratio of 90 percent or higher alcohol with water and spray on your cannabis plants

Neem oil an excellent natural remedy to help your garden for a various number of issues known to be an insecticide, miticide, and fungicide.

The Neem oil can be used in getting rid of russet mites when applied at the early stage.

Do not use too often and not recommended in flower. It’s Recommended to use diluted with water.

Safer Soap is a 3 in 1 solution for mites, insecticides and a fungicides, this is USDA approved and can be used on organics.

It is not recommended to use past the second week of flower. Safer soap contains sulfur.

Green Cleaner is an all natural way to stop all kinds of mites hemp russet included. The ingredients are corn oil, soybean oil, iso alcohol, magnesium sulphate, quillaja saponaria, sodium chloride.

The great thing with green cleaner mites do not become immune to it! Check it out.

Insecticide soap is another way to stop the mites when first noticing them, made from plant derived fatty acids.

This soap will suffocate the mites and affect their feeding patterns. Remember to spray before the lights go out.
Enssentri ic3 is an insecticide that uses peppermint and rosemary wintergreen oil along with other organics.

Used to block the neurotransmitters of the insect. Also recommended for bed bugs.

This solution does not last too long on the plants only around 7-8 hours so multiple application may be required.

Diatomaceous earth is a natural food supplement that is made from fossilized plankton. Diatomaceous can also be used in the soil when growing to prevent hemp russet mites from infesting your plants it also contains silica.

This is just a preventive measure to stop the mites from infesting your plant.

For proper handling here is a resource from: The International Diatomite Producers Association (IDPA).

Beneficial nematodes can be used for growing outdoors when keeping soil out over the winter, can prevent a future outbreak in the spring and summer when your plants are starting back up.

Organocide is an organic 3 in 1 solution for miticide, insecticide, and fungicide. I have used it in root aphid outbreak.

Organocide uses all natural oils and ingredients. This may be an effective way to get rid of the mites for your garden.

Wettable Suplur is a great alternative it is inexpensive and last a while and is a known to kill russet and broad mites.

An organic compound sulfur is safe to use on your plants in various stages. This is from a reader of ours that gave us the heads up mentioned in the comments, 2 tsp per gallon of water and spray on affected area.

This ” will kill all of them and you can even spray it on affected flowers and will not burn the buds as long as its done in dark period”.

Another bonus of wettable sulfur is that is can help against powdery mildew.
Bonide Sulfur Plant fungicide is one type of sulfur your can apply is micronized perfect for spraying.

Safe for fruits and vegetables, organic and able to control mites, thrips.

Smite a proven killer for spider mites, also works for russet mites!

This miticide is a non toxic, biodegradable, organic solution for a preventative and to eradicate your russet mites.

Smite works by going inside the abdomen and suffocates the mites. What also is great is it works on contact and even kills the eggs left by russet mites.

The ingredients are all natural and contain Peppermint, Geranium,, Cotton Seed, and Rosemary oils which are micronized done to 1 micron by a special process.

Smite is safe to use on all fruits , vegetables and cannabis plants at all stages of growth.

After spraying on your plants the miticide with natural biodegrade and leave minimal to no residue after.

This can be a great solution to end those russet mites for good and make sure they do not come back.
 

Steve Phan

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Want throw this out there, I've read that foliar spraying aspirin 325 mg could (not 100%) help with the affects of Russet/Broad

@GroBud thx ....lot of different products
 
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