Problems with Barneys Farm Pineapple Chunk, and Samsara El Aquimista!

Fat Sticky Nugs

Active Member
Growing in growbox. There is 8 23 watt 6500k cfls for these 2 and 2 other plants. Plan on moving in 4 more tomorrow and then 4 more again within a week. Temps are 70-72 with lights on and 60-65 without. They will be higher with the 4 cfl's. Plants are almost 4 weeks old. Have been fed with 1/4 strength growbig a couple times.They were started in Fox Farms Ocean Forest and were transplanted into 1.5 gallon pots at 3 weeks.
Sansara El Aquimista
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Barneys Farm Pineapple Chunk.
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I have tried self diagnosing these myself but have come up with no luck :/
Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
 

smokebros

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It could be too much Nitrogen, but I do see a Calcium/Magnesium deficiency. Add some epson salt or cal/mag to your water to remedy this. You might want to also reduce your frequency of feedings of grow big.

SB.
 

Coho

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No bugs I gather. Some calmag to the water as suggested. Good starting point.
 

PaulN'Chuck

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What is your water ph before and after the grow big?? oh and for the record be happy your pinapple chunk is mainly sativa dominant. The chunk is good stuff and can take a bunch of nutes just treat her right.
 

george xxx

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Growing in growbox. There is 8 23 watt 6500k cfls for these 2 and 2 other plants. Plan on moving in 4 more tomorrow and then 4 more again within a week. Temps are 70-72 with lights on and 60-65 without. They will be higher with the 4 cfl's. Plants are almost 4 weeks old. Have been fed with 1/4 strength growbig a couple times.They were started in Fox Farms Ocean Forest and were transplanted into 1.5 gallon pots at 3 weeks.
When the information within your post is contradictory it makes it difficult to get help.
There is 8 23 watt 6500k cfls ... Temps .... will be higher with the 4 cfl's
No, I am not saying lights are a part of your current problem. But what you have said makes lighting a future problem.
these 2 and 2 other plants. Plan on moving in 4 then 4 more again within a week
8 23w cfl will not support 12 plants.
 

Fat Sticky Nugs

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I have 4 plants. I am moving 4 more cfls into the box tomorrow. That will be a total of 12 cfls. Within a week I'll have 16 lights. 4 for each plant.
I have seen gnats multiple times so I setup an apple vinegar/dawn dishsoap trap and have seen less and less.
Also added perlite to top of soil and watered with peroxide. ( 1 tsp per gallon ).
Will try adding epsom salt next time and will slow on the feeds.
What's the ratio for epsom salt to water? and when should I start foliar feeding?
Also I have never measured the ph of my water. I have used bottled water and tap water (after letting sit outside overnight, also goes through water softner) the whole time.
 

Fat Sticky Nugs

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I was unsure until now,
"Why does the water softener have to add salt to the water?"
[SIZE=+0]The softener works by passing the hard water through resin beads which have soft sodium/potassium ions attached to them. While the water is in contact with the resin beads an ion exchange takes place with the hard mineral ions (typically calcium and/or magnesium) trading places with the soft sodium/potassium ions. After a period of use the sodium/potassium ions are depleted being replaced by calcium and magnesium. The resin then needs to be regenerated with the sodium/potassium ions so the resin will again be able to exchange the hard for the soft. Our softeners use potassium or sodium to regenerate.[/SIZE]

"What is the difference between a water softener, a water filter, a descaler, and a conditioner?"
[SIZE=+0]A water softener is a water treatment system where the calcium and magnesium carbonate (the minerals responsible for the hard water) which are dissolved in the water are replaced with either sodium chloride (salt) or potassium chloride. This is different from a water filter in that filters will generally remove chlorine, pesticides, bacteria (in some cases), and suspended particles (sand, sediment, etc). A filter will not remove dissolved solids (which are responsible for hard water). [/SIZE]
 

Coho

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Good luck..and do you have a spigot to get water from before it hits the softener?
 

Fat Sticky Nugs

Active Member
Completely unsure on that one, so I'm going with no. Haha. I can use bottled water though. Fresh from aerated spring, Local company own springs and sells the bottled water.
You get the idea. XD
 

Fat Sticky Nugs

Active Member
Just picked up some epsom salts. I'll be mixing a teaspoon into a gallon of water. Should I water both plants with this mix?
Also should I just use a mix of epsom salts in my water from now on since my water softner takes out ca and mg?
 

Coho

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I worry about the salt in the softener. Calmag is better as thats what the filter is removing.
 

Fat Sticky Nugs

Active Member
I'm going to stick to only using the spring water from the company my friend works for. They sell it as bottled water and its through an aerated spring.
 
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