Public's faith in Obama hits a new low

barney frank was the man behind the curtain singlehandedly controlling the entire executive and legislative branches.

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No, Barney Frank was the reason that reform legislation was never passed for freddie or fannie. Could you address the issue that although these companies were at the cornerstone of the real estate collapse that they have not had to go before congress, answer any questions or be subject to any legislative changes. These companies lost hundreds of billions of dollars that the taxpayer was forced to pick up and the executives are getting record bonuses. Something definitely smells rotten... Denmark? How about in Congress..

certainly, this collapse had NOTHING whatsoever to do with an unregulated derivatives market or despicable practices by companies like AIG and goldman sachs.

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I agree this collapse was aided by an unregulated derivatives market created by multiple administrations including both Republicans & Democrats.

However, while the politicians are busy pointing fingers at everyone but themselves and their big cash donors over at freddie & fannie, something still stinks...

adman777 said:

The one person I feel bed for is George Bush, he was a straight C studnet through college and he tried to shoot for the stars by running for prez, he probably didnt expect to get elected..... but the dumbass people in our country saw one of their own (an average student that is) and jumped at the chance to vote him in. Poor GWB was so in over his head, I feel really bad for him he shoulda just stayed in texas and watched rangers games as his checking account grew with the oil companies he is invested in.... That being aid I could start a whole other argument there that the whole Iraq war was about oil (and thus the 9/11 attacks were a huge gov. conspiracy just to attack irap in the first place)

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Yeah, cause now that Obama is in office it is so much better...

Now that we are out of Iraq... FAIL...
Ok, now that the unemployment is down... FAIL...
Ok, now that the foreign countries respect us... FAIL...
Now that we are out of Afganistan... FAIL...
Now that GITMO is closed... FAIL...
Now that we can cut taxes... FAIL...

Yeah, so much better...

NLXSK1 said:

Yeah, cause now that Obama is in office it is so much better...

Now that we are out of Iraq... FAIL...
Ok, now that the unemployment is down... FAIL...
Ok, now that the foreign countries respect us... FAIL...
Now that we are out of Afganistan... FAIL...
Now that GITMO is closed... FAIL...
Now that we can cut taxes... FAIL...

Yeah, so much better...

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already drawing troops out of iraq
trying to blame obama for the economy/unemployment? you FAIL there
international sentiment towards the US has certainly ameliorated
he pledged during the campaign to refocus on afghanistan...so WIN
working on closing gitmo
my taxes were lower and everyone i know has gotten more back. any american that worked got $400 back....so you FAIL there too

but thanks for at least admitting that it wasn't SIMPLY freddie and fannie that caused the collapse, and that both sides share some of the blame. although to be fair, you'd have to put the majority of the blame to those that presided over it

however, if barney frank singlehandedly killed any reform legislation, why was he so unable to affect any other policy? i guess he was the secret manipulator of tom delay, as he so eloquently puts it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5nBddKn4TQ

Its the Federal Reserve that sets monetary policy in the USA people, not some puppet who lives in the white house. Obama can talk all he wants, but its the fed that has ALL the power. The fed is not subservient to the Government, the Gubbermint is the slave of the Federal Reserve.

NoDrama said:

Its the Federal Reserve that sets monetary policy in the USA people, not some puppet who lives in the white house. Obama can talk all he wants, but its the fed that has ALL the power. The fed is not subservient to the Government, the Gubbermint is the slave of the Federal Reserve.

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What do I win? I guessed right!

If you believe in personal freedom and liberty along with taking responsibility for your actions President Obama has been a complete failure. If you believe the government has the right to control your live then Obama is a success. This country was founded on the belief that the individual knows what’s best for their own lives not some bureaucrats in Washington.
But Obama isn’t the only one to blame personal freedom has been under attack for the last 60 years or more and the American people have let it happen. I just hope the majority of us wake up and stop the thieves in Washington before it’s too late. I don’t want to have to look my future grandchildren in the eye and tell them it was my generation that lost personal liberty and freedom. Not to mention the taxes they are going to have to pay for our miss deeds.

BudMcLovin said:

If you believe in personal freedom and liberty along with taking responsibility for your actions President Obama has been a complete failure. If you believe the government has the right to control your live then Obama is a success. This country was founded on the belief that the individual knows what’s best for their own lives not some bureaucrats in Washington.
But Obama isn’t the only one to blame personal freedom has been under attack for the last 60 years or more and the American people have let it happen. I just hope the majority of us wake up and stop the thieves in Washington before it’s too late. I don’t want to have to look my future grandchildren in the eye and tell them it was my generation that lost personal liberty and freedom. Not to mention the taxes they are going to have to pay for our miss deeds.

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This is what I keep trying to tell people and I get called a racist, a bigot and told that Bush did it first... Nobody in the Democratic party seems to want to say enough is enough.

NLXSK1 said:

This is what I keep trying to tell people and I get called a racist, a bigot and told that Bush did it first... Nobody in the Democratic party seems to want to say enough is enough.

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perhaps it is the clan outfit you are wearing when you say it

j/k

i'm really interested in knowing what personal freedoms and liberties i have lost. anyone care to articulate a few rather than just speaking in breathless gasps of purple prose?

and also, where the fuck were all of you liberty loving freedom fighters when the biggest affront to said liberties and freedoms was passed 99-1? it seems that all the worry over deficits and spending and freedomsand liberties only started once a black man showed up with a female secretary of state. my personal observation, not calling anyone a racist per se, although i'm sure some of you are.

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Dude.. Unless you havent noticed... Obama isnt even black. He is a mutt like most of us.

I oppose his policies of big government and liberal ideologies.

I am against universal health care, I am against trillion dollar deficits projected for as far as the eye can see. I am against settling for an unemployment rate of 10%. I am against being told that maybe America should not be number one forever. I could go on for another 4 paragraphs but I think you see my point.

Calling someone a racist is one of the laziest tactics on the planet....

i see your point. the president needs to stop advocating for trillion dollar deficits, high unemployment, and america as a subpar nation. that type of message does not reverberate

do you honestly believe obama wants all these things? because it looks an awful lot to me like he is just cleaningup th mess he was left, and not doing half bad. i doubt the flip flopper and ms. bendy straw would have done any better.

i am just pointing out the fact that all this rage didn't seem to come about until obama took office.

and calling someone racist is often just pointing out the truth. 15% of voters admitted they would not vote for obama based on the color of his skin alone (now imagine how many people wouldn't admit such a thing). despite pulling more voters in just about every other area, for some strange reason obama got less support than kerry in many parts of the deep south.

sometimes, you gotta call an apple an apple.

How about the right to go without health insurance? How about the right to get fat without the government having to know my BMI? The new financial bill they just passed gives the government the power to regulate person to person borrowing. How’s that for freedoms lost. They have spent my hard earned money on failing businesses left and right and promised unemployment wouldn’t go above 8%. It’s been over 9.5% for over a year. Contracts don’t mean anything to this administration; look at what they did to the secured lenders of GM and Chrysler or the people at AIG who got screwed out of contractually obligated bonuses. They don’t protect the border and sue states that try to do something about the illegal immigrants inside their state. Then the federal government lets the new Black Panther party get away with committing voter intimidation. Justice is supposed to be blind and contracts use to mean something before this fascist to office.

I’m not putting all the blame on President Obama. It’s been going downhill since FDR. Look up his second bill of rights, now that’s so crazy shit. My problem is not with Democrat or Republican, it’s with both. They divide and concur pitting one against the other. Look at Congress man they are passing 2,000 page bills without even reading them.

UncleBuck said:

because it looks an awful lot to me like he is just cleaningup th mess he was left,

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your political talk credibility has been reset to 0 because of this statement

have a nice day

UncleBuck said:

and calling someone racist is often just pointing out the truth. 15% of voters admitted they would not vote for obama based on the color of his skin alone (now imagine how many people wouldn't admit such a thing). despite pulling more voters in just about every other area, for some strange reason obama got less support than kerry in many parts of the deep south.

sometimes, you gotta call an apple an apple.

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I can see you have learned from the race baiters well. You forgot to mention the 90% of blacks that voted for Obama. In my eyes someone who voted for him because of his race is as bigoted as someone who would not vote for him because of his race. It’s not racism it is bigotry. Oh and I love how you point out he didn’t get much support from the south, don’t forget the plains states either. It couldn’t be because they love their freedom and independence no they must be racist.

I don’t think when most people call someone a racist it’s the truth; most of the time it’s to try and shut people up and stifles debate on the issue at hand. The NAACP just called the tea party racist. I’m sure there are racist people in the movement but the movement itself is about responsible government, lower taxes and smaller government.

BudMcLovin said:

I can see you have learned from the race baiters well. You forgot to mention the 90% of blacks that voted for Obama.

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90% or more of blacks vote democrat every year. nice try though.

BudMcLovin said:

Oh and I love how you point out he didn’t get much support from the south, don’t forget the plains states either. It couldn’t be because they love their freedom and independence no they must be racist.

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or it could be they compose a disproportionately high share of the 15% of voters who admittedly would not vote for obama due to his skin color. i won't even mention the psychological studies that show the number is actually higher than that, due to the psychologcal phenomenon that people don't like to admit bad things about themselves.

BudMcLovin said:

The NAACP just called the tea party racist. I’m sure there are racist people in the movement but the movement itself is about responsible government, lower taxes and smaller government.

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jesus christ, do you even try to get more than a skin deep comprehension of the news? the naacp DID NOT call the tea party racist. rathe, they called upon the tea party to repudiate certain racist factions and elements within their party. if the tea party wants to welcome those racists you know are in there, that is akin to supporting their cause. for all the stupid shit BOTH the other parties pull, at least they both condemn racism within their ranks.

BudMcLovin said:

How about the right to go without health insurance? How about the right to get fat without the government having to know my BMI?

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you still do have that right. all you need to do is join the amish, or forge a seperatist community akin to theirs which shuns all reliance on government. not only will you get out of the individual mandate, you will also be exempt from paying into SS! and all for the low, low cost of leaving society completely. i encourage you to put your money where your mouth is here and embrace true freedom!

BudMcLovin said:

The new financial bill they just passed gives the government the power to regulate person to person borrowing. How’s that for freedoms lost.

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frankly, i have no idea what this means. does this mean they are going to regulate when i loan my wife $50 to buy new shoes? if so, that sucks. (lolz)

BudMcLovin said:

They have spent my hard earned money on failing businesses left and right and promised unemployment wouldn’t go above 8%. It’s been over 9.5% for over a year. Contracts don’t mean anything to this administration; look at what they did to the secured lenders of GM and Chrysler or the people at AIG who got screwed out of contractually obligated bonuses. They don’t protect the border and sue states that try to do something about the illegal immigrants inside their state.

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ummm, these are your personal grievances with the administration
(and politics in general, for that matter). this isnot a list of liberties and freedoms i have lost. try again.

BudMcLovin said:

Then the federal government lets the new Black Panther party get away with committing voter intimidation.

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i would fully support this sentiment IF they could prove that even a single voter was intimidated. yeah, they looked. none. funny how you accuse me o race baiting though, what do you think this is? i mean, fox news has been running this for a week straight to cater to people like you.

BudMcLovin said:

I’m not putting all the blame on President Obama. It’s been going downhill since FDR. Look up his second bill of rights, now that’s so crazy shit. My problem is not with Democrat or Republican, it’s with both. They divide and concur pitting one against the other.

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what exactly has been going downhill since fdr? i agree with you that no side is a saint, they are both pretty fucked, and th whole divide and conquer scheme is a great way for the two party system to maintain a stranglehold....but what exactly has been going downhill, as you put it?

UncleBuck said:

frankly, i have no idea what this means. does this mean they are going to regulate when i loan my wife $50 to buy new shoes? if so, that sucks. (lolz)

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The fact you would loan your wife $50 bucks instead of share willingly speaks volumes about your character but to answer your question; yes that is exactly what it means.

UncleBuck said:

ummm, these are your personal grievances with the administration
(and politics in general, for that matter). this isnot a list of liberties and freedoms i have lost. try again.

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You can’t see the loss in freedom by the government ignoring contracts and doing as they please? The law is not something that is supposed to change depending on the individual. They are not just the freedoms of one person they are freedoms of all Americans and when they are gone they are hard to get back. Hell look no further that marijuana for an example.

You obviously support soft tyranny and the destruction of personal freedoms so we’ll just have to agree to disagree. So scream racism all you want but the fact is the American people once again see the failed policy of the progressive movement don’t work But we’ll see come November where the rest of Americans allegiances lie and that’s what scares the left about the tea parties. We ditched Jimmy Carter after 4 and the same will be true of Obama. I just hope his failing policies haven’t completely destroyed the economy by then.