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Can't you do any better than this sophomoric rhetoric?
Question for Republican Tokers
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OregonMeds
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I could use pictures instead if that would be better for you.
You take political talks to a new low. You don't even understand the meaning of rhetoric.
I'm pretty sure that this very tact taken at any political get-together would result in being able to hear the proverbial "Pin Drop".
Haul me to Heaven
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Well, being that you don't go to such meetings - how would you know??
We speak at them all the time and get warm welcomes in light of what Pharma is doing. More and more people are waking up simply because more and more people are not remaining silent.
And for those that that think I'm a conservative- ask your self- what am I conserving????
You have no idea do you? You use a word that you do not understand.
If you are against what real conservatisum is- then I and 90% of the people in this country worl be against you too. But you don't know what you are talking about do you?
The repub and demo parties are just different wings on the same bird of prey.
But one is far more conservative than the other- according to evidence.
Government schools and a deliberatly ignorant press have done a great job of psyco mind sodomizing a certain percentage of the public masses.
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Pot growers are about equally liberal or conservative, RIU illustrates that.
jeff f
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on your last point...ever heard of tolls and fuel tax? we already have the situation you dread.
i disagree on capitalism causing enron. my understanding of enron is basically a total accounting fraud. there are already regulations/laws against the stuff. unfortunately they didnt get caught till the whole thing blew up.
jeff f
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really? tell that to the venezuelans/iranians rank and file citizens. not to mention another 80 or so countries around the globe. you may want it to be an old term but there are billions of human beings on this planet being savaged by fascism.
PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1
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Than prove it,,,I see a lot of newbie's with ton's of rep that just came into RIU, with no grow journal's or proof they even smoke the weed. but they sure spend a lot of time defending there political beliefs. To me it's a tool they use
OregonMeds
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Oh I didn't say to argue medical... And there's a huge difference in being able to hear a pin drop if you say something others aren't fond of but I would bet you'd get a lot more than silence if you really tackle the issue as it should be. I don't need to have been there to know the reaction. Make sure it's a large group.
skunky33
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See you think conservative means whatever is good and righteous while anything liberal is evil and wicked- in fact neither is true. This proves you are educated by the ignorant and lap up whatever they put in front of you listening to one side of the issue and claim to know, when all you hear is propaganda. I'm far from tolling any political line because I don't believe what any pundit or politician says at face value.
Educated conservatives in political science are almost non existent, especially in world political science. There is no intelligent weigh in on issue's, just an ignorant lop sided black and white scenario where a hippie from code pink is supposedly the voice of 90% of the enemy population. Where liberalism is summed up by a Britney Spears crotch shot followed by commentary by Bill O'really on the downfall of America, and it is bought hook line and sinker by the drooling masses.
Are these anything like the town Tea parties in which were a "grass roots" movement while being organized by FOX news? The same meeting in which at least half the people reap the benefits of socialized medicine while Shouting "no socialized medicine"? Parroting word for word uneducated rhetoric from FOX news.
For the past 150 years since the move west and the great "manifest destiny" students were told that Columbus discovered America that Indians were the aggressors and savages lied 100 fold about the massacres. That any world history that mattered in school was white history. That slave holders were fair and respectable and the slaves were better off here (as slaves) than in Africa. A selective history in which students were told what to believe.
Now one story that talks about a "holiday" play instead of a Christmas play is told by FOX as a attack against freedom by liberal terrorists, when in fact it was a teachers decision because they couldn't afford to put together the nativity scene and opted for another play.
In mainstream conservatism the prevalence of education = ignorance, tolerance = intolerance, and control = freedom.
skunky33
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To be fair, just because someone's new to a forum doesn't mean they don't grow and just because someone (for a slew of reason's) don't put pictures on the web doesn't mean anything. I am new to the forum and like to talk politics. I have interest in pro legalization both personal and as a family interests.Than prove it,,,I see a lot of newbie's with ton's of rep that just came into RIU, with no grow journal's or proof they even smoke the weed. but they sure spend a lot of time defending there political beliefs. To me it's a tool they use
One change in internet privacy and law and shit could hit the fan. It also depends on local law and privacy. Click the below link, this is mandatory time!!!
http://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4564
skunky33
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You've got to be kidding.
skunky33
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Better yet, have 1970's era Chong go up there for 60 seconds and see how tolerant and free thinking that crowd is. Hell, have a Buddhist monk go up and talk about forgiveness and unity or someone who even casts Bush or god forbid Reagan in a disrespectful light. They'd be beaten with flags poles, oxygen tanks and birther signs.
skunky33
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Let the Tea Bagger's speak for themselves. Keep in mind these are America's enlightened people, the one's "in the know" These are true American's who know that America is theirs and only theirs. The surviving few that survived the commie liberal fascist brainwashing.....Thank you FOX news, thank you Glenn Beck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y
skunky33
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OregonMeds
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"And for those that that think I'm a conservative- ask your self- what am I conserving????
You have no idea do you?
Pot bellied pigs?
The very rare west mexico long legged racing Chihuahua's?
Ancient opressive thinking, corporate special interests, and the right to bear arms?
You have no idea do you?
Pot bellied pigs?
The very rare west mexico long legged racing Chihuahua's?
Ancient opressive thinking, corporate special interests, and the right to bear arms?
Rob Roy
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I'd like to "conserve" my right to own myself, my property and my labor . I don't want to wield the discretionary power of those rights over another either or ask a group of people calling themselves government to steal those rights from you on my behalf or to fulfill my wishes. I want YOU to fufill your wishes as long as you respect others rights to the same.
That's kind of why I get a kick out of these back and forth left vs right arguments. Each "camp" is really saying, "We can run your life better than you" Both are wrong. Okay continue arguing now.
That's kind of why I get a kick out of these back and forth left vs right arguments. Each "camp" is really saying, "We can run your life better than you" Both are wrong. Okay continue arguing now.
abe23
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Hmmm, maybe some conservatives are dyslexic environmentalists who think it's 'conservationsim', not about outdated social mores and silly ideas about trickle-down economics that have never panned out. Come on, don't me embarrassed....you really thought you were helping the polar bears and condors, right? At least that would make a little bit of sense.....
OregonMeds
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So far I haven't heard a good excuse or explanation. I have a theory there's a certain personality type that prefers how the right talks over how the left talks.
The right always talks like things are absolute certainties, that there is a right and wrong and here you go, you don't even need to worry your pretty little head about things we've done the research and this is how you should think about it.
The left (and worse yet everyone in the middle) is too obscure, giving people the facts BUT assuming THEY have the ability to form their own opinions.
Just as there are people who prefer to be told what to do in bed and respond better to that way of thinking.
(no this wasn't a joke at all just to be perfectly clear, I'm being 100% dead serious)
It may not apply to you personally but I bet a large percentage more than the majority of republicans.
How dare I say such a thing? They have been trained all their lives to be told how to think in church and they are used to that way and to them someone very vocal about absolute certainties seems stronger and more assured than others who don't claim to have all of the answers. People naturally follow those who seem to have it all figured out, but some people question things too much to fit in.
The right always talks like things are absolute certainties, that there is a right and wrong and here you go, you don't even need to worry your pretty little head about things we've done the research and this is how you should think about it.
The left (and worse yet everyone in the middle) is too obscure, giving people the facts BUT assuming THEY have the ability to form their own opinions.
Just as there are people who prefer to be told what to do in bed and respond better to that way of thinking.
(no this wasn't a joke at all just to be perfectly clear, I'm being 100% dead serious)
It may not apply to you personally but I bet a large percentage more than the majority of republicans.
How dare I say such a thing? They have been trained all their lives to be told how to think in church and they are used to that way and to them someone very vocal about absolute certainties seems stronger and more assured than others who don't claim to have all of the answers. People naturally follow those who seem to have it all figured out, but some people question things too much to fit in.
abe23
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Word. I think many conservatives tend to oversimplify and make black and white issues out of things that are a lot more nuanced...e.g. 'climate change is a lie', 'government can't do anything right' or 'gay marriage is wrong'. It's harder to say, 'well actually nobody really knows what's going on but some scary shit is happening and it looks like it's due to human activity, let's look into it' or 'the free markets work best but only if there is a minimum smart government regulation' or 'religious marriage can be left up to churches but same-sex couples should in civil unions should be treated the same way as anyone else'.
That said, some liberals are bleeding-heart navel-gazers who think they know what's better for everyone else and are often a little too eager to legislate clumsily, raise taxes or create unnecessary government programs in order to solve problems.
I don't like it when people buy into the parties' platforms without thinking about any of the issues. I also hate it when people put their ideology in front of pragmatism and common sense; i think it's fair to say that folks on both sides of the aisle are guilty of this. Finally, there is a lot of money and influence from special interests of all kinds from insurance companies,polluting business, teacher unions, credit card companies, SEIU, the NRA, PETA, evangelical christians, the sierra club and all the rest. I think there are a lot problems that can be fixed - healthcare for one- if we could get beyond the red vs blue, my teams vs yours stupidity that has dumbed down politics completely.