questions before switching to flower

before switching to flower i had a few questions.. im running fem seeds and dont want to risk herms
figured i'd get you guy's advice so i dont fuck shit up too bad

i'm having some problems with a few plants. i'm thinking it's a pH problem.. been having twisted leaves since very early on. so i want to do a good flush, and ammend the soil to steady everything out.
with that being said, its almost almost time to up pot sizes to 3 gallon grow bags which they will finish in.
and that means more soil added.. which introduces more nutes and uncertain pH .. its FF ocean forest BTW

so can i flip to flower and do these things, or should i wait? and wait how long?
i'm under time constraints so i can't really be waiting long, i'm already a few days past when i really wanted to flip.

thanks guys

this is the worst one, looking pale and hurting;

this is my best looking plant;

twisted leafs but still growing strong;

I tHink having the same prob...i was told its a cal/mag deficincey...i would say repot before you flip and amend soil..epsom salts and calcium nitrate?

parkth3car said:

before switching to flower i had a few questions.. im running fem seeds and dont want to risk herms
figured i'd get you guy's advice so i dont fuck shit up too bad

i'm having some problems with a few plants. i'm thinking it's a pH problem.. been having twisted leaves since very early on. so i want to do a good flush, and ammend the soil to steady everything out.
with that being said, its almost almost time to up pot sizes to 3 gallon grow bags which they will finish in.
and that means more soil added.. which introduces more nutes and uncertain pH .. its FF ocean forest BTW

so can i flip to flower and do these things, or should i wait? and wait how long?
i'm under time constraints so i can't really be waiting long, i'm already a few days past when i really wanted to flip.

thanks guys

this is the worst one, looking pale and hurting;
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this is my best looking plant;
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twisted leafs but still growing strong;
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Looks like a combination of hungry, hot and crowded roots to me.
If mine, I would pot up SOON, drop your temp a bit (you didn't mention what it is right now......) and give a feed.
You mention you think it might be PH, but I don't recall you mentioning checking it........
Add a little dolomite lime to your new soil mix if you would feel more comfortable.
Actually I would recommend it if you are not sure of what you're watering with or what the PH of your starting water is before nutes especially.

I would mix in some lime with the ol ffof then transplant up to your 3 gal or to a 5 gal then wait 2 weeks to switch to flower

to me it could look like a magnesium deficiency, but sure if the PH is off it could look similar, but what make you think its off ?

and what do you feed em ? if anything ? need more info please, if you did`t feed em anything and they are in small pots/bag`s they might just be hungry, but I would still put my buck on the Mg and provide some (Epsom salt maybe, cant hurt)

and for sure do the repotting before 12/12 and give it atleast a week to settle

two things you want, healthy plants going in to flowering, and you want to treat em like babies doing flowering, any stress like a repot or toping/super cropping etc. is stuff I would avoid, specially if your worried about hermis, look for male flowers fist few weeks on the middle/lower leave point`s and remove any ball`s if you see any, look for "bananas" with in the female flower with in the last part of flowering, treat em like babies and make sure you don't have ANY light leaks at "night time" doing 12/12

That doesn't look like an Mg deficiency, The pictures show chlorosis beginning at the leaf margins. Mg deficiencies show up as inter-veinal chlorosis and affect the margins last if at all.

Looks more like a potassium (K) deficiency.

Why do you think its a pH problem? Have you checked the pH? Added highly acidic or alkaline fertilizers?

Extreme pH ranges can make the plant do funky things. Contorted, twisted leaves. Abnormal growth...

If the pH is too low or too high it "locks out" certain nutrients and micronutrients. Even if they are there in the soil, the plant cannot use them. This often leads to compounding problems as the grower tries to remedy a "deficiency" by adding more fertilizer. This just creates buildup in the soil and further pushes the pH out of range.

Honestly I never had pH issues until I got a meter and started checking it all the time. I use FFOF as well and I would always just use tap water (which is around 8 pH). When I fed the plants I would just add it to the water, shake it up and give it to them.

Now that I check pH and try to water & feed them at "optimal" ranges, I get problems.

Give it a good rinse, repot it with fresh soil. (Add additional perlite to Ocean Forrest) Water it with plain water. Dont even check the pH. I promise its nothing the plant and soil cant handle.

lots of good responses guy, thanks!!
i shouod have gave you more info..
im using the General Organics GO box.. which is self pH'ing.. but i've had the twisting leaf problem since seedling. i didn't feed until week 3, and on end of week 4 now.
i dont ph feedings since it's self pHing but try to ph waterings, using the drops.. which sucks because im always using up and down and never sure... :/
i have 9 plants, 5 regular seeds, and 4 fem. .. it is plant specific, not only for strains.. so im super confused about what it could be, all get the same feedings, execpt for waterings if it isnt dry.
like i said can't check runoff because it comes out colored and makes me confused about the colored drops
...
i'm just going to flush distilled water tonight, after up potting to 3gallon from 1 gallon.
i'll check the runoff best i can and hopefuly get an idea...
then wait a few days to switch to flower

any other input?

parkth3car said:

lots of good responses guy, thanks!!
i shouod have gave you more info..
im using the General Organics GO box.. which is self pH'ing.. but i've had the twisting leaf problem since seedling. i didn't feed until week 3, and on end of week 4 now.
i dont ph feedings since it's self pHing but try to ph waterings, using the drops.. which sucks because im always using up and down and never sure... :/
i have 9 plants, 5 regular seeds, and 4 fem. .. it is plant specific, not only for strains.. so im super confused about what it could be, all get the same feedings, execpt for waterings if it isnt dry.
like i said can't check runoff because it comes out colored and makes me confused about the colored drops
...
i'm just going to flush distilled water tonight, after up potting to 3gallon from 1 gallon.
i'll check the runoff best i can and hopefuly get an idea...
then wait a few days to switch to flower

any other input?

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"Self PH'ing" might or might not be what it is hyped up to be, but if that is what you think it is, I would invest in a good PH pen.
Personally, I don't waste time with any of the "self doing" shit unless somebody I KNOW has used it and says it DOES work.
Again, personally, I have read a lot of guys don't like distilled water because the PH is lower than tap, and the water is "TOO" clean, meaning too many of the trace elements have been removed from it.
If you want to pay for water, I would suggest spring water as long as it's not carbonated, or my question, what is wrong with your tap water?

Tap is up around 8 pH.
i upped to 3 gallon pots and the watered 2 gallons with distiller water. Runoff was around 5. so i Added 2 tbs of lime per plant in the watering.
we shall see how that works in the next few days ...

parkth3car said:

Tap is up around 8 pH.
i upped to 3 gallon pots and the watered 2 gallons with distiller water. Runoff was around 5. so i Added 2 tbs of lime per plant in the watering.
we shall see how that works in the next few days ...

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My water here, comes in about 7.9-8.1, and I water with it straight once in a while, feeding usually every other water, and it comes down, and I don't have a problem.
If I DO plan to do more than 2 or 3 straight waters, or a flush, I just drop my PH with white distilled vinegar.