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Olive Drab Green

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"Chem Dog: Thirteen seeds. Started two in ’91. One was a male. I was 17. Foolishly, I threw it away. The other came out identical to what I got from Joe and P in Deer Creek Indiana, summer Tour 1991. I did not get the beans there. I got one sack of the Dog Bud and thank god I did what I did. One became the original 91 cut. One became the Sister. I believe it was 2005, which was then Chem Dog D, which is still out there and very popular. Without the Chem Dog, there’d be no Sour. He will agree with that. From what I remember Joe telling me, he said some people called it Dog, some called it Chem. Either way people it’s d-o-g, not d-a-w-g. Brett from Apothecary Seeds, he bred the 91 cut and called that Chem Dawg. Could be wrong. Arjan of Greenhouse got the 91 cut and he spelled it the right way, so he gets props for that."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abakusmagazine.wordpress.com/2014/04/11/true-origins-of-chem-dog-and-sour-diesel-by-adam-dunn/amp/?client=safari
 

lex660nm

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Posts like this are goofy bullshit. HSO produces some great beans, some are not as good. RD produces some great beans, some are not as good. Nuance exists in the world.
same With dogs and humans not all Brothers and sisters exhibit the same good qualities, it can actually seem like alot of different families kids or puppies bacause of a big Genetic Heritage, i know some f1 crosses can yield up to 16 diffrent pheno variations just from first generation...
 

lex660nm

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Hey dude, I had a bunch of shit go wrong and started an intense new job that has been eating my life, but I am getting paid like a boss. Just got my grow back in order, will be updating my thread again soon. I missed all you crazy fucks, I really did!
hi im quite New here, thanx for jumping ind, would love to hear Your best experiences and favorites from various breeders ;)
salute from Norway to yourway
 

Michael Huntherz

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same With dogs and humans not all Brothers and sisters exhibit the same good qualities, it can actually seem like alot of different families kids or puppies bacause of a big Genetic Heritage, i know some f1 crosses can yield up to 16 diffrent pheno variations just from first generation...
Exactly. If someone has a preference that's one thing, but saying an entire product line is straight garbage requires some substantial evidence or its just haters hating.
 

lex660nm

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i was told this was an ak47 but not if it was an serious seeds ak or any other breeder ak, so i think it looks and grows alot like an ak47 but i have a vague bubblegum/Cherry smell With a hint of Earth in mine at day 42 flower, what do you guys mean, does it look ak47, heard of or tried a Cherry or bubblegum strawberry pheno of ak47 anyone ?
reminder, its beat up because it had the carbon filter falling on the scrog and tops a few days ago but was very robust so it didnt do too much..
 

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Olive Drab Green

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No legal problems or anything too tragic. I ended up losing a bunch of plants in various ways, had to start over more or less, but I am good and back to growing only for my own pleasure and giving zips of nugs away to people I like. Glad to be back here talking shit again.
Haha. Glad to have you back, bro. I'm running two high power COBs and Roots Organic nutes and medium.
 

lex660nm

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Exactly. If someone has a preference that's one thing, but saying an entire product line is straight garbage requires some substantial evidence or its just haters hating.
lol, off course, everybody has self preferance and every good breeder at least knows we all have some faouls and some winners, thats the way of nature. we just need to speed up the survival of the fittest and still not forget those unique Genetics that aint the fittest but have alot other desired crossbreeding Properties..

i Guess all breeders have some good some not that good, but off course some are better at selecting mothers and fathers for their Genetics and bx and such ..
 

Michael Huntherz

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hi im quite New here, thanx for jumping ind, would love to hear Your best experiences and favorites from various breeders ;)
salute from Norway to yourway
I have grown and been around grows of HSO Blue Dream and Green Crack and they have all been really good. I smoked some Amherst Sour D that was great, also. Purple Trainwreck from them was legitimately badass in every way except the yield was not huge.

I grew Scott's OG from RD and the smoke was great but she went full hermie on me. Corn Bread from RD is amazing smoke, but I haven't grown it myself.

My favorite breeders right now are probably Sin City and Dynasty Genetics, based on some grows from other folks I know.

I really want to try Little Chief Collabs' Tangie Ghost Train, that's next on my list followed by Shoreline Genetics Alien Skunk. I am growing some Double Rainbow freebies from "In House Genetics" that are showing trichomes very early in flower, I am guessing they will turn out amazing.

Hail to the Norwegians!
 

lex660nm

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Cree CXB3590s driven at 2150mA (that's pretty high. Most are usually run with multiple emitters at 700-1650mA.)

Here are my seeds, but currently running HSO's Lemon Garlic OG and @RM3's Colorado Thunder Fuck.

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very Nice, i know very well what cxb3590 are capable of, but as you said yourself its more efficient soft driven With more cobs instead but still very efficient at high drivecurrent too.
is it 3000k 3500k 0r 4000k? cd bin db bin or cg cb bins?

im currently in the making of my own growlight selected by myself every single diode is top bin and the first ever to use the best white and blue and rare deeep red special edition 675nm luxeon rebel es,5000k ansi white, and royal blue, also the best true blue Osram ssl80 and ssl80 hyperred 659nm, and cree xpe2 p4 bin red 630nm and the highest lumen pr watt released by cree the cree xp-g3 whites 5700-6500k s4-s5 bin over 196-204lumen at 350mA and capable of 2000mA.

and the New 200w cree cxb cob ;) i get it made by a very Professional Company and im going to use all best pinfinheatsinks, low drive currents for highest par pr watt ever, and many various drivers to give the first mix growlight of cree cob cree monoleds,luxeon rebel es leds, Osram ssl80 leds all top bins the optimal drivecurrent for each chip and brand.

reaad the highest atm on the market is about 2,3 or 2,2 micromoules pr watt efficiancy and that only the red and blue on todays leading growlight has Close to 60% efficiancy, and that the others pull it Down ( in this case bml or clw solar system 550 With only ssl80 Osram leds) but if they combined the best bins from the Three best leds brands for growing Osram luxeon cree and maybe nichia they could actually get the highest photons pr watt ever made but off course,it will cost alot more.
but since ill rather pick all diy Components out myself and get a Professional reflowed Circuit wires and lenses and all that, With warranty instead of doing it myself.

the top bin cxb3590 in 5700.6500k i mean are capable of 294 or 296 lumen at 350mA so soft driven at between 700-1200 i Guess that one would be an awesome efficient veglight Spectrum..
 

Olive Drab Green

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very Nice, i know very well what cxb3590 are capable of, but as you said yourself its more efficient soft driven With more cobs instead but still very efficient at high drivecurrent too.
is it 3000k 3500k 0r 4000k? cd bin db bin or cg cb bins?

im currently in the making of my own growlight selected by myself every single diode is top bin and the first ever to use the best white and blue and rare deeep red special edition 675nm luxeon rebel es,5000k ansi white, and royal blue, also the best true blue Osram ssl80 and ssl80 hyperred 659nm, and cree xpe2 p4 bin red 630nm and the highest lumen pr watt released by cree the cree xp-g3 whites 5700-6500k s4-s5 bin over 196-204lumen at 350mA and capable of 2000mA.

and the New 200w cree cxb cob ;) i get it made by a very Professional Company and im going to use all best pinfinheatsinks, low drive currents for highest par pr watt ever, and many various drivers to give the first mix growlight of cree cob cree monoleds,luxeon rebel es leds, Osram ssl80 leds all top bins the optimal drivecurrent for each chip and brand.

reaad the highest atm on the market is about 2,3 or 2,2 micromoules pr watt efficiancy and that only the red and blue on todays leading growlight has Close to 60% efficiancy, and that the others pull it Down ( in this case bml or clw solar system 550 With only ssl80 Osram leds) but if they combined the best bins from the Three best leds brands for growing Osram luxeon cree and maybe nichia they could actually get the highest photons pr watt ever made but off course,it will cost alot more.
but since ill rather pick all diy Components out myself and get a Professional reflowed Circuit wires and lenses and all that, With warranty instead of doing it myself.

the top bin cxb3590 in 5700.6500k i mean are capable of 294 or 296 lumen at 350mA so soft driven at between 700-1200 i Guess that one would be an awesome efficient veglight Spectrum..
For 89w per kWh, I'm not really concerned about efficiency. The chip is rated for 3600 and driven full power at 2150mA. The heat's negligible, and despite the sharp dropoff in efficiency, the extra power is worth it. I have trichomes all over my still-veg'ing plants. So for me, I prefer less emitters, more amperage for my closet grow. 2 Tasty T1-2100 fixtures.

CD bin, 3500k, 36v. Meanwell LPF-90D-42 driver.
 

lex660nm

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but first im getting sunplusled New horus pro series With topbin (AD)3000k cxb 3070 surrounded by 12 x monoleds from originally epistars dual core leds but im paying extra to get osram ssl80 and cree xpe2 and cree xpg3 in a mix. and patented New reflectorcup design and more..
 

Michael Huntherz

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very Nice, i know very well what cxb3590 are capable of, but as you said yourself its more efficient soft driven With more cobs instead but still very efficient at high drivecurrent too.
is it 3000k 3500k 0r 4000k? cd bin db bin or cg cb bins?

im currently in the making of my own growlight selected by myself every single diode is top bin and the first ever to use the best white and blue and rare deeep red special edition 675nm luxeon rebel es,5000k ansi white, and royal blue, also the best true blue Osram ssl80 and ssl80 hyperred 659nm, and cree xpe2 p4 bin red 630nm and the highest lumen pr watt released by cree the cree xp-g3 whites 5700-6500k s4-s5 bin over 196-204lumen at 350mA and capable of 2000mA.

and the New 200w cree cxb cob ;) i get it made by a very Professional Company and im going to use all best pinfinheatsinks, low drive currents for highest par pr watt ever, and many various drivers to give the first mix growlight of cree cob cree monoleds,luxeon rebel es leds, Osram ssl80 leds all top bins the optimal drivecurrent for each chip and brand.

reaad the highest atm on the market is about 2,3 or 2,2 micromoules pr watt efficiancy and that only the red and blue on todays leading growlight has Close to 60% efficiancy, and that the others pull it Down ( in this case bml or clw solar system 550 With only ssl80 Osram leds) but if they combined the best bins from the Three best leds brands for growing Osram luxeon cree and maybe nichia they could actually get the highest photons pr watt ever made but off course,it will cost alot more.
but since ill rather pick all diy Components out myself and get a Professional reflowed Circuit wires and lenses and all that, With warranty instead of doing it myself.

the top bin cxb3590 in 5700.6500k i mean are capable of 294 or 296 lumen at 350mA so soft driven at between 700-1200 i Guess that one would be an awesome efficient veglight Spectrum..
Nerd! (A sincere compliment!)
 

Jp.the.pope

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Do yours
i am really searching for the best chemdawg pheno from seed and im aiming at going for hso,dnagenetics/reserva privada and also some headbands so i think ill og for the same breeders there too. also going to check some sannies,exotic genetix,archive,karma seeds, and bodhi i think. along With rare dankness, that should give me a Nice genepool to phenohunt in :)
Do your self a favor and check out top dawg genetics first :)
 

lex660nm

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For 89w per kWh, I'm not really concerned about efficiency. The chip is rated for 3600 and driven full power at 2150mA. The heat's negligible, and despite the sharp dropoff in efficiency, the extra power is worth it. I have trichomes all over my still-veg'ing plants. So for me, I prefer less emitters, more amperage for my closet grow. 2 Tasty T1-2100 fixtures.

agreed, we all do whats best for us :) Nice selection anyway, cheers
 
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