Re: My Objective Economic Strategy. Keep A Version Of The Bush Tax Rate...

Prophecy

Prophecy

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Re: Keep The Bush Tax Rate, Approximately;

Rightly Reformulate The Bush Tax Formula Designed To Promote Core Jobs / Primarily Primary Economy;

Implement A National Sales Tax Not To Exceed 10% - 12% Total, Including Relative State And Local Taxes;

Provide A Sales Tax Exempt Tool For Individual's Earning Under A $16,500, Annually;

Discharge Obamacratic Policy Interpretation;

Simplify Fiscal Spending;
Empiricalize Fiscal Programs / Systemic Refinement…



 
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BuddhaDawg

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Prophecy said:
Re: Keep The Bush Tax Rate, Approximately;

Rightly Reformulate The Bush Tax Formula Designed To Promote Core Jobs / Primarily Primary Economy;

Implement A National Sales Tax Not To Exceed 10% - 12% Total, Including Relative State And Local Taxes;

Provide A Sales Tax Exempt Tool For Individual's Earning Under A $16,500, Annually;

Discharge Obamacratic Policy Interpretation;

Simplify Fiscal Spending;
Empiricalize Fiscal Programs / Systemic Refinement…
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No.

A progressive income taxation system with no loopholes which does not tax people who make under 25,000 a year.

A basically flat taxation system (income or sales) hurts the middle class, who cannot afford it.

Work with a demand-side economic policy.

Provide more small business loans with incentives for employers who provide good paying jobs and insurance for their employees.

Pump more dollars into science, research and development.

Do not enact GW's tax cut again. Move tax rate back to Clinton levels.
 
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NoDrama

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Maybe we could just go back and use that thing called "The US Constitution". If we followed it most of these problems would go away. Fiat money is the #1 agitator to our well being. Massive government programs would cease to exist if the income tax were abolished. Gold and silver are money, not paper backed by nothing, they work because they impose discipline upon the people and cannot be inflated.

More nefarious forms of taxes only enrichen the elite and make the government too powerful. People have to stop relying on Gubbermint for their every need. Government cannot solve anything, it can only move problems around like a shell game. Government produces NOTHING and at best is a very inefficient user of the peoples tax money. The greatest period of growth this country ever saw was when taxes were very very low and the income tax did not exist. Our government needs to be much much smaller.
 
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BuddhaDawg

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NoDrama said:
Maybe we could just go back and use that thing called "The US Constitution". If we followed it most of these problems would go away. Fiat money is the #1 agitator to our well being. Massive government programs would cease to exist if the income tax were abolished. Gold and silver are money, not paper backed by nothing, they work because they impose discipline upon the people and cannot be inflated.

More nefarious forms of taxes only enrichen the elite and make the government too powerful. People have to stop relying on Gubbermint for their every need. Government cannot solve anything, it can only move problems around like a shell game. Government produces NOTHING and at best is a very inefficient user of the peoples tax money. The greatest period of growth this country ever saw was when taxes were very very low and the income tax did not exist. Our government needs to be much much smaller.
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Wishful thinking at best...get the rest of the world to go to the overly simplistic fiat system then we will talk...



I like the location you come from... My family comes from the land of ice and snow, from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow...
http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/
 
undertheice

undertheice

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BuddhaDawg said:
No.
A progressive income taxation system with no loopholes which does not tax people who make under 25,000 a year.
A basically flat taxation system (income or sales) hurts the middle class, who cannot afford it.
Work with a demand-side economic policy.
Provide more small business loans with incentives for employers who provide good paying jobs and insurance for their employees.
Pump more dollars into science, research and development.
Do not enact GW's tax cut again. Move tax rate back to Clinton levels.
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so you are just regurgitating the talking points of the liberal establishment. tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich. don't differentiate between the idle rich and the productive successes, just tax the shit out of all of them and hand it over to a bloated bureaucracy. don't admit to the massive percentage of the population that idly suckles at the teat of the government gravy train or the huge chunk of those tax dollars that is wasted by the denizens of the welfare state's employment rolls. force the successful to not only fund the workings of the nation, but to provide a majority of the employment as well. i'll admit that it's folly to cut taxes to the wealthy with no regard to their impact on the private sector economy, but to overtax them with the same disregard is even worse. allowing a huge portion of our population access to all our society has to offer without having to put any "skin in the game" has created a parasitic underclass that is almost as bad as the scores of bureaucrats that are needed to manage their well-being.
 
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NoDrama

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BuddhaDawg said:
Wishful thinking at best...get the rest of the world to go to the overly simplistic fiat system then we will talk...



I like the location you come from... My family comes from the land of ice and snow, from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow...
http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/
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The entire world and every country in it is already on a fiat system of currency. The US was the last country to go fiat in 1971, and its been down hill ever since. Sure my view of the way things should be is just a dream, it will probably never happen since we have so many people dependent on the system for everything they have.

Yeah my Family is Danish, my dad came over from Denmark to escape Hitler.
 
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BuddhaDawg

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undertheice said:
so you are just regurgitating the talking points of the liberal establishment. tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich. don't differentiate between the idle rich and the productive successes, just tax the shit out of all of them and hand it over to a bloated bureaucracy. don't admit to the massive percentage of the population that idly suckles at the teat of the government gravy train or the huge chunk of those tax dollars that is wasted by the denizens of the welfare state's employment rolls. force the successful to not only fund the workings of the nation, but to provide a majority of the employment as well. i'll admit that it's folly to cut taxes to the wealthy with no regard to their impact on the private sector economy, but to overtax them with the same disregard is even worse. allowing a huge portion of our population access to all our society has to offer without having to put any "skin in the game" has created a parasitic underclass that is almost as bad as the scores of bureaucrats that are needed to manage their well-being.
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Tax the people who can afford it. Tax at a rate that each socio-economic group can afford. Your taxation ideal is supply side nonsense.
 
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BuddhaDawg

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NoDrama said:
The entire world and every country in it is already on a fiat system of currency. The US was the last country to go fiat in 1971, and its been down hill ever since. Sure my view of the way things should be is just a dream, it will probably never happen since we have so many people dependent on the system for everything they have.

Yeah my Family is Danish, my dad came over from Denmark to escape Hitler.
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*singing Imagine*

Kudos to the Danes. My paternal line is Swedish/Danish. The US could learn so much from these countries.
 
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BuddhaDawg

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undertheice said:
from each according to his ability, to each according to his need? this is fine as an ethical ideal, but it is called tyranny when enforced by the threat of violence.
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Then we live in a tyrannical world regardless what philosophy we adhere to...

Your quote is devoid of anything meaningful...it is simply the status quo.
 
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NoDrama

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Tax those who can afford it, slave labor camps for those who cannot. I figure you would find more people who can pay their taxes that way. John Lennon is dead, his song was about a dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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NoDrama said:
Tax those who can afford it, slave labor camps for those who cannot. I figure you would find more people who can pay their taxes that way. John Lennon is dead, his song was about a dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Slave labor camps, really? You mean sort of like we have now, where the rich enjoy a high luxury lifestyle and the rest of us have slave labor jobs with no hope of ever moving on up. It's a plutochracy, where the rich control everything and the vote is worthless. We, the poor, finally vote in a man of the people and the rich kidnap him and threaten to kill him and his family if he doesn't do their bidding. Case in point JFK. He stood up th the rich and powerful, even though he was one of them. Didn't matter. Once they saw he was a man of the people, off with his head, literally. I'm pretty sure Obama has had likewise warnings. We got over JFKs death and we'd surely get over Obamas.
 
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