Ready to harvest??

Just wondering if anyone can let me know if this is ready to chop? 8 weeks into flower now, last week using nutes before flushing, but looks done to me? Pistils are 80 percent orange and tris are cloudy? Says it should take 10 weeks but seems finished to me?

should I start flush now or wait,?

any help appreciated.

CARmick93 said:

Just wondering if anyone can let me know if this is ready to chop? 8 weeks into flower now, last week using nutes before flushing, but looks done to me? Pistils are 80 percent orange and tris are cloudy? Says it should take 10 weeks but seems finished to me?

should I start flush now or wait,?

any help appreciated.

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Chop 7 days from now. No need to flush. Good job.

Lordhooha said:

Chop 7 days from now. No need to flush. Good job.

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No need to flush??

CARmick93 said:

No need to flush??

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Nope none.

Lordhooha said:

Nope none.

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Why

Flushing isn’t doing anything really. Your plants are the same after flush… other than being hungry.
Edit: they only take in what they can process. They don’t get saturated with nutes. The fact is you can feed till harvest. I good cure and proper hang time when chopping make the difference. IMO

Nutrients for the most part are immobile. The harsh smoke that ppl think comes from nutrients is actually from improper drying procedures. Plants should take about 10-14 days to dry properly in an ideal environment. The harsh taste is from chlorophyll not breaking down properly. Flushing only has your plant starving and left feeding on itself. That last 2 weeks are critical in bud development and terpenes.

CARmick93 said:

Why

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Question in regards to flushing for those above (help a newbie out please). I've seen people such as Mr Grow it and Mr canuck (among others known and unknown) although both mentioned are using organic pre amended soil/coco, they only water (maybe with molas) for the last two weeks and get a beautiful fade through their girls consistently and although Mr grow it, had released a video showing a study which does mention a few benefits/debunk a few wives tails. Others such as Mr canuck and even Mr grow it honestly, support the "smoother smoke". A few others mention the breakdown of remaining/excess certain nutrients within the plant (i.e sulfur, phosphorous) which onsets quicker/ can occur from flushing prior to harvest.... my questions based on all this are

- When a plant is almost "ready", if it had slight nutrient burn, would the plant really only have what's needed to dry/cure/be smoked and no more?

- Is Chlorophyll the only internal contributing factor/compound towards taste within the plant/buds in the final few weeks of a pheno/plants life before the dark period/chop/dry/cure? (external factors being moisture/rh/temp/airflow that i can think of)

- Does having less/no nutrients in the soil (besides make the plant use whats inside of it) help break down Chlorophyll faster (minus n deficiency if that makes sense)?

Hopefully that all makes sense... i have a ton more questions but honestly i am still researching everyday

im sorry in advance if any frustrations caused - i'm trying to exclude the variables in my questions and get down to the bottom of this as well, and although obviously comparing two clones of the exact same plant/pheno and doing a side by side would probably be the only way to find if it makes a difference (besides placebo lol) i've 0 grows under the belt

curious2garden said:

Cannabis-science-consulting.com

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Thank you this is great - so basically comparing all the graphs that represent a method of flush to number 3 which is just water right?

From the link I gave you:
"On pages 58, 59 and 60 you will find graphs showing that no matter how they tried to “flush” the plants out, the tissues still contained statistically identical amounts of the various major plant nutritional elements N-P-K-Ca-Mg-S etc…"

Where you will find the actual study and pages 58-60

Another one:

I'd wait a week. But thats me. I tend to push a week or 2 over. That plants ripe bro. And beautiful.

DrOgkush said:

I'd wait a week. But thats me. I tend to push a week or 2 over. That plants ripe bro. And beautiful.

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Thanks mate.

Thanks for all the input, much appreciated. I still think I’m going to flush the plant maybes just for a week, I have on all previous grows with no problems. I know someone who had to throw weed away because he did not flush it and it tasted horrible apparently.

CARmick93 said:

Thanks for all the input, much appreciated. I still think I’m going to flush the plant maybes just for a week, I have on all previous grows with no problems. I know someone who had to throw weed away because he did not flush it and it tasted horrible apparently.

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If he had weed that tasted bad it was from over feeding or not drying properly.

Flushing is the practice of staving your plant for no reason at the end of flower. Lol

twentyeight.threefive said:

If he had weed that tasted bad it was from over feeding or not drying properly.

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You know I thought that too. When I was newer in this I overfed a lot. I also didn't put much into curing. Later as I started actually curing turned out that even when I'd overfed the cure worked it out. I feed a lot less today but the cure seems to be something we underestimate the most.

My anecdotal experience only, ymmv.

CARmick93 said:

Thanks for all the input, much appreciated. I still think I’m going to flush the plant maybes just for a week, I have on all previous grows with no problems. I know someone who had to throw weed away because he did not flush it and it tasted horrible apparently.

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Please read this:

Flushing your plant will remove nothing from the vegetation. The thing that affects taste and smoke the most is the dry and cure. I suggest reading the other study I posted too that proves that.

"On pages 58, 59 and 60 you will find graphs showing that no matter how they tried to “flush” the plants out, the tissues still contained statistically identical amounts of the various major plant nutritional elements N-P-K-Ca-Mg-S etc…"

https://atrium.lib.uoguelph.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10214/12125/Stemeroff_Jonathan_201712_Msc_with_erratum.pdf

CARmick93 said:

Just wondering if anyone can let me know if this is ready to chop? 8 weeks into flower now, last week using nutes before flushing, but looks done to me? Pistils are 80 percent orange and tris are cloudy? Says it should take 10 weeks but seems finished to me?

should I start flush now or wait,?

any help appreciated.

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Beautiful buds. Swollen bracts… its up to you. Usually waiting a bit can pay off, but those buds are certainly harvestable. I always thought the flush thing was a little silly but i use Plain rain water from a catchment tank that i have for the last couple of weeks anyways so technically thats flushing because im not feeding. I also use a trick whereby i water with ice water right before the dark period to simulate cold winter soil temps, which supposedly engages a defense mechanism in the plant and boosts last minute trichrome production but theres no scientific evidence behind it, strictly anecdotal. I also water with club soda once a week for the last two weeks(there is science behind this).
anyway enjoy this happy time and those are just some little gimmicky things that ive picked up over the years. Feel free to take that with a grain of salt.

Iv heard of forced shock with ice cubes for color. But I thought that was bad?