lemmy714
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I'll be holding off on the Gluetrap after the herm report, I have a lot of strains to choose from anyway. When I do sprout them, I'll be watching them like a hawk!
Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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VahnKiqazz
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Hello fellow No-Till growers! This summer will be my first to-crop grow, and it's going to be a no-till garden. A local breeder supplied me with seeds and 4 already vegged plants ranging from 2 feet to 3 feet tall when I put them in the ground. The holes I dug are about 50-70 gallons roughly, perhaps a little more. I lined them with weedcloth on all sides and the bottom, then slashed a line down the middle of each home made pot. I did this in hopes that once my root system has completely filled my 'pots', that perhaps it will continue into the ground beneath, at no point causing a bottle neck to their growth. My soil mix was haphazard and rushed because the plants arrived within days of needing to be transplanted, rootbound and crying to be released. As such, I have no exact measurements. It is as follows:
Earths Best from my local soil distributor, it has horse manure and a bunch of other goodies in it. This was recommended by the local breeder specifically.
Pumice stone for aeration and to help house my microbe life.
Bat Guano 0-7-0 from Down to Earth, a cup or so per hole, very well mixed prior to filling. I have only whats left of a 5 LB box.
Neem Seed Meal from Down To Earth. I mixed it lightly throughout the soil, giving it a very pungent aroma and a slight red tint. The start to my Integrated Pest Management.
Bio-Live from Down to Earth. I mixed two or more cups per hole very thoroughly prior to filling, then top dressed and also dusted the roots of each plant with this as I transplanted them into the ground.
I've top dressed with the Neem Seed meal once since transplant, as well as the Bio Live, some Earth Worm Castings off Amazon, and Bat guano. I watered them all in and covered them with locally harvested mint to keep the topsoil moist. I did this after I sprinkled red clover, crimson clover, white clover, yarrow, comfrey, stinging nettle and fenugreek seeds all over for a cover crop. So far as I can see, only the clover of different varieties, and maybe the fenugreek have begun to sprout.
My plants all seem to be doing ok, but it seems like I put them out a couple weeks early and they flipped from flower back to veg. One is still flowering most definitely, but is the shortest of the bunch, getting the least light as it's a greenhouse against a fence. What can you do?
Anyway, in a week or so they should flip back, and the two that get the most sunlight are turning into real monsters. My little 6x8 greenhouse is getting hard to walk around in! I've only fed them one tea, and I'm afraid my pump's a bit lacking in the way of heft. I thought a 40 gallon pump for 5 gallons would be more than enough!
Earths Best from my local soil distributor, it has horse manure and a bunch of other goodies in it. This was recommended by the local breeder specifically.
Pumice stone for aeration and to help house my microbe life.
Bat Guano 0-7-0 from Down to Earth, a cup or so per hole, very well mixed prior to filling. I have only whats left of a 5 LB box.
Neem Seed Meal from Down To Earth. I mixed it lightly throughout the soil, giving it a very pungent aroma and a slight red tint. The start to my Integrated Pest Management.
Bio-Live from Down to Earth. I mixed two or more cups per hole very thoroughly prior to filling, then top dressed and also dusted the roots of each plant with this as I transplanted them into the ground.
I've top dressed with the Neem Seed meal once since transplant, as well as the Bio Live, some Earth Worm Castings off Amazon, and Bat guano. I watered them all in and covered them with locally harvested mint to keep the topsoil moist. I did this after I sprinkled red clover, crimson clover, white clover, yarrow, comfrey, stinging nettle and fenugreek seeds all over for a cover crop. So far as I can see, only the clover of different varieties, and maybe the fenugreek have begun to sprout.
My plants all seem to be doing ok, but it seems like I put them out a couple weeks early and they flipped from flower back to veg. One is still flowering most definitely, but is the shortest of the bunch, getting the least light as it's a greenhouse against a fence. What can you do?
Anyway, in a week or so they should flip back, and the two that get the most sunlight are turning into real monsters. My little 6x8 greenhouse is getting hard to walk around in! I've only fed them one tea, and I'm afraid my pump's a bit lacking in the way of heft. I thought a 40 gallon pump for 5 gallons would be more than enough!
Joedank
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if you got time and space here is the real grokashi recipie from alan himself....ala leadsled....Beyond Bokashi Ancestral Fermentations Workshop
By Alan Albin Adkisson
Dry Ingredient List:
* Red Wheat 5 gallon
* Azomite 1 cup
* Sea+Real Salt 1 TBSP
* EM Super Cera 1 TBSP
Liquid Fermentation Ingredient List (plus 1/5 teaspoon EM Super Cera)
* Water 2.5 Gallons (spring water or other non chlorinated, cloromine free water)
* Black Strap Mollasses 2.5 Oz
* Organic Beet Root Juice 2.5 Oz
* Youngevity btt 2.0 organic 2.5 Oz (dry, but mix with your water)
* EM-1 Microbial Innoculant 2.5 Oz
Start potentizing the water you want to use.
I hope I said that right. It is the stirring method used in biodynamic farming or in Dr Emotos work. I use this old ice hash machine. It is perfect. 2.5 gallons warm spring water blessed up with a 1/2 teaspoon EM super cera powder. If you don’t have a ice hash maker, stir the water clockwise for 15 seconds, then counterclockwise, repeat for 5 or more minutes.
Now, every minute or so of mixing, add a liquid ingredient. First the 2.5 oz. Mollases, then 2.5 oz. Beet Root juice, then 2.5 oz. BTT 2.0, lastly 2.5 oz. EM-1. Add the EM-1 last. Once you have your base liquid mixed you can prepare your dry ingredients.
Now for our dry components. We are going to do a five gallon mix. 1 cup azomite 1 tablespoon EM super cera 1 tablespoon mixed sea/real salt.
Stir them up in the cup.
Mix up your five gallons red flake wheat bran with your dry mix. The azomite is an incredible anticaking agent also. Labor saver.
Now you will need 2 1/2 gallons of the liquid fermentation prepared earlier to mix up with your dry mixture.
(if you want to make bigger batches just keep repeating this process till you have finished your desired amount)
Mix it up like bread. Knead it until you find no dry pockets.
Transfer this now to your fermentation barrel.
Continue to fill your barrel until it is about 7/8 full and packed. I use a barrel liner and at the end I put a loose twist tie on the bag. Then we install the air tight lock ring on the barrel. I have installed an anti siphon valve as a cheap pressure release and put a balloon over that so I can tell when my fermentation is complete. About ten days. You can also use a larger bag tied off over your barrel/bucket and wait for it to puff up a little to see that the fermentation has taken place.
Ten days later this is what it should look like when you open your barrel. I wish you could smell this.
Stomp (Contractor bag lines the barrel)
Now we are going to put that fermented Gro-Kashi thru this 1/4 in screen onto a hay tarp out in the sun to dry. We gonna rake it and take care of it like a fine coffee bean or better. If the weather is bad you can use a batch grain dryer or rent one from a farmer.
Hey everybody. The black tarp makes it easy to gather up when it is dry. I am trying to figure out the perfect moisture level currently. I think that you can over dry it.
By Alan Albin Adkisson
Dry Ingredient List:
* Red Wheat 5 gallon
* Azomite 1 cup
* Sea+Real Salt 1 TBSP
* EM Super Cera 1 TBSP
Liquid Fermentation Ingredient List (plus 1/5 teaspoon EM Super Cera)
* Water 2.5 Gallons (spring water or other non chlorinated, cloromine free water)
* Black Strap Mollasses 2.5 Oz
* Organic Beet Root Juice 2.5 Oz
* Youngevity btt 2.0 organic 2.5 Oz (dry, but mix with your water)
* EM-1 Microbial Innoculant 2.5 Oz
Start potentizing the water you want to use.
I hope I said that right. It is the stirring method used in biodynamic farming or in Dr Emotos work. I use this old ice hash machine. It is perfect. 2.5 gallons warm spring water blessed up with a 1/2 teaspoon EM super cera powder. If you don’t have a ice hash maker, stir the water clockwise for 15 seconds, then counterclockwise, repeat for 5 or more minutes.
Now, every minute or so of mixing, add a liquid ingredient. First the 2.5 oz. Mollases, then 2.5 oz. Beet Root juice, then 2.5 oz. BTT 2.0, lastly 2.5 oz. EM-1. Add the EM-1 last. Once you have your base liquid mixed you can prepare your dry ingredients.
Now for our dry components. We are going to do a five gallon mix. 1 cup azomite 1 tablespoon EM super cera 1 tablespoon mixed sea/real salt.
Stir them up in the cup.
Mix up your five gallons red flake wheat bran with your dry mix. The azomite is an incredible anticaking agent also. Labor saver.
Now you will need 2 1/2 gallons of the liquid fermentation prepared earlier to mix up with your dry mixture.
(if you want to make bigger batches just keep repeating this process till you have finished your desired amount)
Mix it up like bread. Knead it until you find no dry pockets.
Transfer this now to your fermentation barrel.
Continue to fill your barrel until it is about 7/8 full and packed. I use a barrel liner and at the end I put a loose twist tie on the bag. Then we install the air tight lock ring on the barrel. I have installed an anti siphon valve as a cheap pressure release and put a balloon over that so I can tell when my fermentation is complete. About ten days. You can also use a larger bag tied off over your barrel/bucket and wait for it to puff up a little to see that the fermentation has taken place.
Ten days later this is what it should look like when you open your barrel. I wish you could smell this.
Stomp (Contractor bag lines the barrel)
Now we are going to put that fermented Gro-Kashi thru this 1/4 in screen onto a hay tarp out in the sun to dry. We gonna rake it and take care of it like a fine coffee bean or better. If the weather is bad you can use a batch grain dryer or rent one from a farmer.
Hey everybody. The black tarp makes it easy to gather up when it is dry. I am trying to figure out the perfect moisture level currently. I think that you can over dry it.
drekoushranada
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I purchased some Coots soil mix from BAS and wanted to put my mother plant in it. She is in a Coco 1 gallon pot at the moment. Is it OK to do this? I also will be mixing up a few cubic feet of the soil myself. Going to add what's left over from the pre mix stuff to my cooking soil for diversity. Thanks in advance.
drekoushranada
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I been feeding her with Dyna Gro Foliage Pro since I had her. Excited about finally trying organic growing.
Darth Vapour
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Looking good MOH i make usually 3 - 4 feet round holes and 4 feet deep 40 /40 mix top soil and compost from my bin with cardboard chips in it ( Worm food ) grass clippings planted this clones outside May 24 - 26 ish there over 4 feet tall bushes water feed only .. With only Fresh grass clippings applied on top every couple of weeks that is all they getOn a lighter note - Animal Cookies in the worm bin:
Cheers,
Mo
Joedank
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nice blending effect! grass clippings and cardboard arecool too...
Joedank
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for sure coco to organic soil is a smooth transition IME.. i got a free bag of the BAS mix a few days ago and i am loving it the structure is great and the biochar is a nice size compared to my hommade...
Darth Vapour
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worms go nuts over the glue in cardboard ( Starch
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that and neem meal .never seen a fungal bloom like a dusting of neem seedmeal can give
foreverflyhi
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Let the veg season begin!!!
Mohican
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@foreverflyhi - they look beautiful! What strains are you growing?
drekoushranada
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I have a bit of a random question. Have anybody noticed a drop in herm prone stains turning herm when using no-till or organics in general? Given it is a stable environment. I'm curious to know.
Midwest Weedist
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Yes actually, my friend and I both ran the same four cuts (4 phenotypes of gg4 x stardawg) and are known to hermie. He uses bottled and boxed organics in bagged soil, scratch fed; and I run a diy organic / veganic (well, like 90% of my plants are veganic to be accurate, but I digress..) notill. He had all four cuts throw nanners and one had legitimate male organs, the cut of his that was a true hermaphrodite, only threw nanners and one set of balls under the canopy when I ran them, and so far no nanners on the other three cuts on day 46 of flower. I also ran another cut he gave me that gave him some nanners and I had no issues; this was when he used the bottled line nectar of the gods or whatever it's called.
CaptainCAVEMAN
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I do not understand this hermie talk - I haven't seen or checked for a herm in 6 years.
Chronikool
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Has he checked his timer/light leakz...?
Darth Vapour
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Well GG4 is a unstable strain to begin with a any stress can cause hermies or nanners shit even at the beginning when sometimes organic food is not available immediately for plants causing stress
Def = stress
Def = stress
Joedank
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Grokashi fuzz
just started with it last week . and man i like the feel of it ,the growth / water rates are improving too ... i put it everywhere ! in the compost , on the citrus (try it they LOVE it ) .... the improvement in soil structure is amazing .... outdoors it really shines as it bran can form a colony any where it is covered and moist ...
just started with it last week . and man i like the feel of it ,the growth / water rates are improving too ... i put it everywhere ! in the compost , on the citrus (try it they LOVE it ) .... the improvement in soil structure is amazing .... outdoors it really shines as it bran can form a colony any where it is covered and moist ...
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