Redoing the room - but decisions to make and want some input.

Been growing in my 20x20 former garage turned into an office (good insulation) turned into a grow room in tents. Slowly been expanding as the cash situation improves. Anyway I'm getting rid of most of the tents now and am dividing the room into a flower and veg space. Has to be both. I was thinking of taking 12x15ft from a corner to be the flowering room. Then I'd have the rest to be veg and reservoirs etc.

I've not invested a lot in automation. But I intend to this go around. I've been growing in soil and only sometimes using things like liquid kelp meal or fish meal to amend when needed. Results are good but not ideal. Mostly environment control has been the problem. Hence why I'm redoing everything.

I have a 30 amp 220 timed panel for the veg room. I have a 50amp plug to hook another timed board up. I only intend to run a little under 5k watts in the flower room. 3x 750 and 2x 1000 and 1x 600 - gavitas. I want to give myself some room to move around in the flower room if possible. Tired of stuffing things into tents with no room to work. The 50amp is on a 60amp panel and it has a bunch of 120 and 220 individual plugs too.

The room has two 2x4ft windows which can easily be used for whatever is necessary to get control of the temperatures.

I don't particularly want to use Air Conditioning except perhaps in the summer. I do have the amps to plug in a standalone easily. With the tents I ran 4100 watts in a 9x9 and then another 2800 in veg (also had some flowering going on) outside which was sort of heating the room int he winter as it was running using big fans to exhaust. I'd prefer to continue this route and have an active intake for when it's a little warm but the winters have been pretty cold here. Much colder than in the past. It used to be around 10 degrees C average with the odd cold day but last winter it was near 0 most of the time and this really made using outside air problematic.

I definitely do not currently have the money to invest in a killer climate control setup for this room right now using AC. Not unless I want to limit my lights. This might be my best option, hard to say. Getting 3 units per light in a perfectly dialed in room (and my plants I know them well...) instead of 1.5 in a setup that has to deal with large fluctuations due to variables outside of your control... well, plus cost of operation. It's a no brainer you go with the more efficient setup IMO.

I have a 600w gavita, multiple 600w nanoteks, 1x500w COB and 3x 200w COBs to veg with.

Things that must happen in this setup:

- Climate must be perfect.
- It must be clean
- I'm not growing in dirt anymore. I've been thinking about going back to coco, but you still have a bit of a mess compared to straight hydro and more nutrient issues due to how coco can lock up things. This would give me the option of a passive drip. I have blu mats which I use outside which I could easily bring inside. Alternately I could do something cool like heath robinson except non vertical and go flooded tube. I am thinking that I will be running higher numbers of plants as my license allows me to do that I can run up to 120 plants inside so veg time isn't so much an issue. Dirt is too messy for my tastes inside. Love it outside. I actually prefer growing outside overall to inside, but I can't do that year round around here very easily unless I invest in a fantastic green house complete with lights and climate control.

Just looking for some ideas I guess. How would you control the climate? I used a temperature fan speed controller, big fans and 24hr lights on in veg last winter, this was very less than ideal. The more I think about this the more I feel like I should do fewer lights, sealed, build the room properly so that I can expand int he future with a big AC and run a smaller AC in the mean time.

But if anyone has bright ideas I'm all ears.

Maybe two flower rooms offset by 4 weeks to split the work/heat load up. A/C is hard to beat if room temps are 80 degrees with lights off. Options more A/C or take off two months of growing in the summer.

Main thing I have learned this year is the use of a temp/hum data logger. Fuck a temp/hum gauge. What you need is a sensitive device that will record temp/hum over time on graph. When was it to hot? How long did it last? A data logger will let you look and see what is happening in real time. How do you know what the changes you make do to a room over time? There are a few styles of data loggers out there. I didnt want to pay a monthly fee and wanted something reasonably priced. I got a sensorpush. $50 bluetooth to phone with graphs and high/low temp/humidity text warnings. Can add as many as you like to a phone, easy setup. and they have a base station so you can get alerts outside bluetooth range. I would say it is one of the better tools I have bought. It pays for itself in peace of mind. Out at a movie I can see the real temp/hum of the room from my phone. I got three going. Flower, Veg and one for the room they are in.

Two flower rooms... hmmm. could be done. do them on a flip and save on a.c.. good idea.

1 x clone area. 2 flower rooms and one veg.

Have the flower rooms on at different times..an AM one and a PM one that way your spreading the power and the veg tent will be on for what..?.. 3 hrs either side of those? So you will only have two lights running for 6 hrs. You may want all the same W lights though as you dontwant to fall behind the cycle.

Harvest every 30 days.

You would probably have to go sealed room and CO2. But the 25% extra you should get from the CO2 should more than pay your AC power bill.


The grow boss explains it well but you will need to fast forward the you tube clip as its at the end. You tube "The grow boss 3 tent rotation."

I'll Check it out thanks for your input