Removing all leaves 1 week before buds are done???

darkdestruction420

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if ur worried about side/bottom leaves not getting light add some cfls to the side not cut off leaves. it will also give u more bud sites. but we arent talking about early trimming we are talking about the last 2 weeks.....trust me dude, TIE DOWN the ones blocking light or add side lighting or whatever u want but dont cut the leaves off!
 

HomeGrown420baby

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does putting light on the bud itself really help at all? the bud doesnt process light into energy its the leaves that give bud energy to grow right? thats what ive always thought.....if u could direct me to somewhere that says different i'd be very interested in reading it, u could have a good point......but i dont think so
ur right with that but ur forgetting that light hits the resin glands and thats how ur get higher levels of thc..thats all im sayin
 

HomeGrown420baby

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if ur worried about side/bottom leaves not getting light add some cfls to the side not cut off leaves. it will also give u more bud sites. but we arent talking about early trimming we are talking about the last 2 weeks.....trust me dude, TIE DOWN the ones blocking light or add side lighting or whatever u want but dont cut the leaves off!
im talking about the last 12-48 hours before harvest and the dude was talking about a week before harvest..i know the last 3 weeks ur buds could double in size thats y i said wait till the last 12-48 hours
 

darkdestruction420

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yeah but ur plant isnt dead right after u cut it it keeps taking stuff from leaves to try and finish the flowers since its not photosyntesising anymore so it realizes its dying
 

smokiedog

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i'm two weeks into flowering. i have 10 plants in a 4x4x10 room, only the top canopy gets real good light. trimming woul expose 50% or more of all the buds to light instead of just the 10 to 15 % that are at the top. where does the energy come from for each bud? from the leaves that are closest to it? that would make sense, so if i trim leaves near a lower bud, the bud gets mor light but has nothing to provide energy to it???

i would think trimming would make your top buds smaller but all your other buds bigger, with an overall bigger yield. does anybody here have a degree in botany or agriculture or at least have a scientific answer. i just trimmed last night because it seemed as if only a small percentage of the leave were getting good coverage from the hps and everything else is in the shade of the top fan leaves.

if trimming is bad i wont do it.......
 

smokiedog

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maybe i just have too many plants in too small of a room. i started with 14 seeds (not even feminized) and ended up with 10 ladies. my plan was for 6 in that room. now i got monsters which i never thought would be a problem.

should i just pick the 6 best and not trim OR leave em all in there and trim so they share the light OR leave the 10 of them in there and not trim and just let them fight for the light?????

(i have supplemented thw 400 watt hps with 4 100 watt equiv 2700k cfls hanging throughout the lower areas with less penetration)
 

darkdestruction420

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go ahead and try trimming a few then, see which one one works best for u and let us know since u have so many plants a little trial and error is fine. but only on a few not the whole crop then u can do your own side by side comparison
 

phil le b

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r u crazy u only do that 2 or may b 3 weeks into budding so all the new groth gets light and again in 3weeks if there is lots of big leafs blocking the light to lower buds and new groth try to take as little as u can of the plant cuz u can make it go into shock wat will stop it growing 4 about 2weeks got a few pics on my profile have a lookbut my 1st time i veg them to long 5weeks they was 2foot then swich 2 12 12 for 8weeks and they ended up 4foot nice and health but to tall so much little buds at bottom but done 10 since then so got it all worked out now
 

HomeGrown420baby

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i got 6 plants trimmed all of em except one and honestly not a big difference except the one i trimmed its colas are really long and the one i didnt seem more fat and short
 

KushKing949

New Member
whatever leaves that are blocking light from my buds or branches or stoping them from growing i clip em and it does no harm whatsoever
 

Stoney Jake

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ur right with that but ur forgetting that light hits the resin glands and thats how ur get higher levels of thc..thats all im sayin
actually light degrades THC...Im not saying it doesnt help the level with production but the resin glands dont use the light, its the leafs. Hence brick tops comments
If you can stop from losing leafs at all then your buds will be bigger because your plant is going to produce more energy that can be directed to the buds.

Doesnt matter though. People are going to do what they want to do
Good luck
 

HomeGrown420baby

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actually light degrades THC...Im not saying it doesnt help the level with production but the resin glands dont use the light, its the leafs. Hence brick tops comments
If you can stop from losing leafs at all then your buds will be bigger because your plant is going to produce more energy that can be directed to the buds.

Doesnt matter though. People are going to do what they want to do
Good luck
every resin gland has a magnifying ball on the tip of it that magnifies the light to the bud..thats how we get thc u should do some more research
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Where do people get these ideas from? :mrgreen:

Look a plant is not that different from YOU. A week before a big event or sporting match, go ahead and cut yourself all over your body. Think you are going to perform? Think you are going to perform BETTER?

Every time you cut a plant you WOUND it. Now the plant has to deal with a bunch of open wounds of which is a CLEAR signal to mother nature that this plant is in need of being DISPATCHED... all kinds of nasties will immediately show up to DO THEIR JOB. The plant must now DIVERT its energy to fight off these invaders...get it?

It's JUST a week....OMG. So much misinformation out there.



out. :blsmoke:
 

BisGrow

Active Member
So If the leaves are what process light and not the buds,.....why even tie down leaves? shouldnt matter that the buds are being blocked because the leaves are processing the light anyways right??? sorry im new to this
 

CrackerJax

New Member
The leaves need the LIGHT, not the buds..... The leaves are the engine. THC is provided by the buds which get their energy from the engine...leaves. ALL plants work this way. :peace:

Tying the leaves is unnecessary and impractical.
out. :blsmoke:
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Amazing isn't it...:mrgreen: The volume of information available has been outstripped by the misinformation available.


out. :blsmoke:
 

Brick Top

New Member
So If the leaves are what process light and not the buds,.....why even tie down leaves? shouldnt matter that the buds are being blocked because the leaves are processing the light anyways right??? sorry im new to this


All green surfaces on plants will absorb light but it is not only light absorption that has to be considered. For one it has to be efficient light absorption and no part of a plant is as efficient at that as the large fan leaves.

The other part is that sugars and other chemicals that are needed for the plant to grow and to create resin and THC and do other things are created in the leaves and the overwhelming majority of it is created in the large fan leaves.

People wrongly believe that buds need direct light to grow, but they do not. Buds grow because the plants grows and if the plants stops doing what it needs to do the buds cannot carry on, on their own.

People wrongly believe that large fan leaves rob energy from bud production but large fan leaves are what supply the energy that buds need to grow.

People wrongly believe that the nutrients they feed their plants give them everything that plants need but that is not true either.

Nutrients give some of exactly what a plant needs and some of what a plant needs to then use it to change it into other chemicals and that is mainly done in the large fan leaves.

The large fan leaves are like combined solar panels and factories and removing them will only hurt a plant.
 

Brick Top

New Member
every resin gland has a magnifying ball on the tip of it that magnifies the light to the bud..thats how we get thc u should do some more research


If you are claiming that light does not break down THC then you should do some more research.

Light will cause a degradation of THC, not a major one but THC is lost during hours of light, but in the hours of darkness it will recoup what is lost and it can produce more than what was lost.

Why do you think it is best to harvest before the sun comes out or to switch off lights and give a period of darkness before harvesting?

Why do you think when you hang bud to dry it should not be in direct light?

Why do you think when you cure bud it should be in a dark place?

Because light breaks down THC.

The Stichting Institute of medical Marijuana (SIMM), the first company to sell marijuana through the pharmicies of Holland, has been investigating the medical possibilities of cannabis, together with TNO laboritories and the university of leiden.

One of their discoveries has been that to keep the ripe plants in the dark before harvesting could increase their potency.

SIMM's growers seperated a crop of mature plants, harvested half of them and kept the other half in absolute darknessfor 72 hours before cutting and drying.

Analysis of the resulting dried buds showed that some varieties had seen increases of THC of up to 30%, while the CBD and CBN remained the same.


from ccnewz magazine.
 
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