removing fan leaves in flower

MichiganMedGrower

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We all know the leaves will grow back and the plant will finish.

But all anyone sees is more bud because there are less leaves blocking it from your view.

And people think they see what they want to see.

Hurting the plant is never going to increase yields

It will obviously just stall them.
 

Dumme

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We all know the leaves will grow back and the plant will finish.

But all anyone sees is more bud because there are less leaves blocking it from your view.

And people think they see what they want to see.

Hurting the plant is never going to increase yields

It will obviously just stall them.
Yes, if you don't end up killing the plant, the leaves may grow back, but "only" in the new growth. Old leaf sites never grow back.

If youre in Flower, the only place to grow leaves is within the flower itself, as that's the only new growth.

So to recap, you're taking what's left of G3P, to make carbohydrates, that has to split it's energy between new leaves and new bud growth, essentially cutting bud growth in half. With all the new leaf growth in the buds, I'm not convinced any weight or density is gained, only visual size, as the new leaves take space.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I made bho with fresh lower bud couple weeks ago, not the pro sub-zero method by a long shot. The resin was the color and consistency of sweeten condensed milk.
Give it a try, it was a soaring high for me.
How long did you keep getting high off the early thc? And how early was the flowering time?

I used to cut early to give me more of that kind of high. But the more I grow them. The longer I keep leaving them. That gives them time to really get their full potency.

If I cut a bud in half and look in the microscope there are icy waterfalls of trichomes inside that are not there 2 weeks before.

I like to smoke the flowers by the way. I have no extraction experience except butter.

And our cakes will trip the user out for many hours. Nice Lon pulsating head and body high. The way I need them.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Defoliation means to strip the leaves. Pruning is common gardening practice. But even for tomatoes. It hurts yield. You can cut small branches and get bigger fruit but at quite a loss of total yield.

I have found this true with my plants and never cut anything unless I want a clone. A few bigger buds on top but the production I need shorted.

I do understand Dumme's point about trimming with a disability but he understands what is happening to his plants. And knows the plant will grow less bud.
 

Dumme

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Defoliation means to strip the leaves. Pruning is common gardening practice. But even for tomatoes. It hurts yield. You can cut small branches and get bigger fruit but at quite a loss of total yield.

I have found this true with my plants and never cut anything unless I want a clone. A few bigger buds on top but the production I need shorted.

I do understand Dumme's point about trimming with a disability but he understands what is happening to his plants. And knows the plant will grow less bud.
I just meant, trimming smaller buds isn't worth my hurt, so I trash them. Lower branches, that I have a hard time getting to. I can't sit for long times manicuring, so to be more efficient, I just keep the tops. I find Tops the easiest to trim.

Either way, I would run the same amount of light's, fans, water, pumps, etc,. ..as that's the way my gardens setup, and I still have more than I can smoke.
I hate cooking, and don't like the taste of dabs, so there's no point in keeping the stuff cut. I do have worms, and they love it.

Being that I know how plant metabolism works, I understand I am losing overall yiwld in weight, but I don't care. I don't need it.
 

Slab

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How long did you keep getting high off the early thc? And how early was the flowering time?

I used to cut early to give me more of that kind of high. But the more I grow them. The longer I keep leaving them. That gives them time to really get their full potency.

If I cut a bud in half and look in the microscope there are icy waterfalls of trichomes inside that are not there 2 weeks before.

I like to smoke the flowers by the way. I have no extraction experience except butter.

And our cakes will trip the user out for many hours. Nice Lon pulsating head and body high. The way I need them.
it was a suggestion for finding ways to enjoy lower buds. So i will save myself the time in answering your defense of an imaginary contest.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I didn't mean it that way. No contest intended. I wonder if the BHO is different in this way and maybe it is the immature flowers that cause me the headache.

I was considering maybe cutting off the slower lowers early to save time later and make hash. Or even butter. So I was wondering if it would be effective or if my tolerance would overcome it too fast. When I used to keep my plants to shorter schedule the high was like I stated. So I guess I will probe some off one and try like you suggested.

Sorry for the misunderstood rambling. I am hurting like many of us and it may be showing in unintentional ways. I came here to talk to like minds. Not argue.
 

Slab

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might be an application for injecting young thc into a cbn rich edibles to deal with drowsy effect, aka couch lock
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Now that is an interesting idea. I could also just sprinkle some early hash on a heavy stone bearing bud. I mix stuff all the time for flavor and effect.

Thanks.
 

Slab

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I didn't mean it that way. No contest intended. I wonder if the BHO is different in this way and maybe it is the immature flowers that cause me the headache.

I was considering maybe cutting off the slower lowers early to save time later and make hash. Or even butter. So I was wondering if it would be effective or if my tolerance would overcome it too fast. When I used to keep my plants to shorter schedule the high was like I stated. So I guess I will probe some off one and try like you suggested.

Sorry for the misunderstood rambling. I am hurting like many of us and it may be showing in unintentional ways. I came here to talk to like minds. Not argue.
Impurities most likely, you have a good early warning system, ethanol is used to remove that.

. Decarbing transforms thc , does it produce cbn in that process i am not sure? I know it does make fresh thc lose the soaring high, becuase that anxiety side effect can have the biggest head looking for God.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Yes impurities makes sense. And when you extract they are lessened greatly so you can enjoy the fresh new THC.

I am going to cut and dry some lowers that are a couple weeks out and sift some hash.

I bet the combined high is wonderful.
 

Slab

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Good vibes come from good people, thanks for the stimuli.

Made some concentrated coconut oil (1.5 ozs cured flowers to a cup) for the old lday,
She gets eagle talons when she knits, and trips to the bathroom cut into her " lightouts" time..

We just got thc oil cleared here in PA, glad there are guys out there like you taking cAre of Michigan Moms
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Thanks. I too know the good feelings of helping someone in pain.

But Michigan is a farce. There is no legal medicine here. Even butter is illegal.

Somehow we are supposed to cure cancer in Michigan with flowers only. I understand it would take over an ounce of buds eaten in flower form per day just to make a dent in some illnesses.
 

Slab

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Thanks. I too know the good feelings of helping someone in pain.

But Michigan is a farce. There is no legal medicine here. Even butter is illegal.

Somehow we are supposed to cure cancer in Michigan with flowers only. I understand it would take over an ounce of buds eaten in flower form per day just to make a dent in some illnesses.
Raw young flower and leaf juice has some great research science backing it, give it a look .
Finally something for you defoliators, Juice it bruh sorry for derail. Will send you a PM kite MMG
 
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