Roadside Testing For Marijuana Use Pilot Underway: Health Minister

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A man is shown smoking a marijuana joint during a rally in Vancouver on April 20, 2011. The feds are starting a pilot program that will roadside test to detect drug-impaired driving.
EDMONTON — Canada's health minister says pilot projects have begun on roadside police testing for marijuana, and the plan is to have rules in place for edible cannabis around July 2019.

"Our priority right now is to ensure that we can legalize cannabis by July 2018," Ginette Petitpas Taylor said Friday.


"There's no specific date (for edibles to be available), but I would say if you look a year after the legalization, that is the window that we're giving ourselves."


Petitpas Taylor made the comments to reporters after briefing her provincial and territorial counterparts on Ottawa's progress toward legalizing marijuana.


Ottawa will not allow edible cannabis in the marketplace until it has put in place the rules surrounding packaging, potency and health warnings.

The federal government is toughening up Criminal Code rules and will handle the overall health regime for cannabis, while the provinces will be in charge of distributing and selling the weed.


Police will be administering roadside saliva tests to check for drug-impaired driving.

The federal government has announced it will spend $161 million over the next five years to help train and equip the officers.




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Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor shown speaking during Question Period in the House of Commons in Ottawa on Sept. 21, 2017.
Petitpas Taylor said pilot tests for these checks have begun across the country with municipal police forces and the RCMP.

She said her department is also working on public education by setting up partnerships with non-profit outreach agencies such as Drug-Free Kids.

"What we learned from the lessons of the United States when they started their rollout was really to ensure that the prevention was rolled out before the actual legalization date became a reality," she said.

Eight states in the U.S. plus the District of Columbia have already legalized recreational use of marijuana.

July deadline could be too ambitious
Provinces, territories and some police agencies have cautioned that having Canada's regime in place by next July 1 is too ambitious.

Alberta Health Minister Sarah Hoffman said while they're still consulting on their plans "we're working forward with that deadline in mind and we expect we will be able to achieve it."

Quebec Health Minister Gaetan Barrette said the public awareness campaign of marijuana's health impacts is key.

"An awareness campaign most of the time will take time to have a positive effect,'' said Barrette.

"We need to have that as soon as possible and I think Minister Petitpas Taylor is working in that direction."

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government introduced the legalization legislation in the spring aimed at keeping marijuana out of the hands of youngsters and denying profits to black marketers.

The minimum age to buy and consume cannabis will be 18, but provinces are free to set it higher.

Some provinces have already announced their plans.

Ontario will set the minimum age at 19 and retail marijuana through government-run outlets. New Brunswick has said it will use a Crown corporation model, and a legislature committee has recommended the minimum age at 19.



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A Canadian flag with a marijuana leaf shown waving during the annual 4/20 marijuana rally on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on April 20, 2017.
Alberta unveiled its tentative plan two weeks ago, setting the minimum age at 18 to align with the legal age for drinking. It has not decided if it will allow marijuana to be sold through government-run or private outlets.

There are other issues still to be determined, including setting a tax on cannabis that is not so high it pushes customers to the black market.

Canada is also signatory to three United Nations drug control treaties that criminalize the production and possession of non-medical cannabis.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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And in other news: 12 lawyers were injured today while fighting for a spot to be on the first legal team that asks the court to link their arbitrary nano-limit to impairment. It'll be fun to watch the government plans get shredded by the courts - much like everything else "cannabis" that they touch.
 

The Hippy

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I sure hope so Chris. But aren't they getting away with this in the U.S. right now. I think it's sticking there in court. Do I trust our judges not to just follow the leader....not really. I see you point and agree but worry it won't go that way.
 

The Hippy

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And in other news: 12 lawyers were injured today while fighting for a spot to be on the first legal team that asks the court to link their arbitrary nano-limit to impairment. It'll be fun to watch the government plans get shredded by the courts - much like everything else "cannabis" that they touch.
The whole cannabis drugged driving crap infuriates me. Zero proof...100% speculation....Hippy Mad......aaaarrrggghhhh !!!
 

WHATFG

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The federal government has announced it will spend $161 million over the next five years to help train and equip the officers.
Wow....such a waste of so much money....
"An awareness campaign most of the time will take time to have a positive effect,'' said Barrette.
what exactly is the "positive" effect? That seems skewed already.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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I sure hope so Chris. But aren't they getting away with this in the U.S. right now. I think it's sticking there in court. Do I trust our judges not to just follow the leader....not really. I see you point and agree but worry it won't go that way.
It HAS to go that way. There are existing laws against impaired driving regardless of what you are impaired by. Unless they start using these test to detect and charge for ANY positive indication of ANY substance, it will be discrimination. Unless they are studies showing impairment is likely at 2 nanograms (or whatever # they choose), it violates the charter of rights and freedoms. There are no stats on cannabis related accidents to prove the need to for a crackdown that infringes on our personal freedoms. I'm not going to change anything I do and I won't get a lawyer to fight should I get charged.
 

dienowk

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I sure hope so Chris. But aren't they getting away with this in the U.S. right now. I think it's sticking there in court. Do I trust our judges not to just follow the leader....not really. I see you point and agree but worry it won't go that way.
Our courts do not work like the US courts, that's why we have legal medical cannabis on the federal level and they do not. Our judges notoriously rule in favor of the people (look at the Harper governments loss record in the supreme court for proof of this); all they have to prove in court is that the law as written infringes on the rights of legal medicinal users who are not impaired due to an arbitrary number randomly chosen by politicians rather than one that is supported by any science what so ever. It would take effort for a semi decent lawyer to lose the case, honestly a shit lawyer could likely win.
 

Farmer.J

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I have stressed to every cannabis user I know, "Never Talk To Police". Anything you say or do can and will be used against you. We are better off refusing the roadside test and letting our lawyer make up the story with a clean slate. The more details you give to a cop, the less ammunition your lawyer has to defend you with.
 

Farmer.J

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Another good rule of thumb is, break only one law at a time. If you are driving stoned, remember the 5 S's. Stay in your lane, Seatbelts, Speed limits, Stop signs and Signal lights. The less reasons you give a cop to pull you over, the less chance you would be asked to submit a sample. I drive more cautiously medicated than ill. Medicating takes focus off the illness and allows us focus on the task at hand. That should be the point Medicinal Patients should push to the government on the issue of stoned driving.
 
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