Roots Organic Formula 707

Nforknow

Active Member
So what would u guys say to do for an outdoor grow with the 707 blend? Should I layer the holes or add stuff to it. Thanks for the help
 

08GSXR600

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bump. seeing this low ph problem too.. i didnt add lime and just potted up from 19 oz cups. before i pot into 3 gal i will be mixing up lime with.. my run off is also in the 5s. if i water with 8 ph water will it balance it out or do more damage?
 
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DO NOT WATER AT PH 8 please PLEASE please!!!!


I use 707 - listen, first off - don't add lime, it really is not needed....... loving plants to much. Also dont worry about the run off on this stuff - I spent the first 6 months freaking out about that same thing and realized it does not make a diff. - - - -

THE KEY! SOLUTION! FIX - that i could not find anywhere online, nor find someone who will just answer the damn question of what is a good watering ph for this flippin soil...... :wall:

:mrgreen: WELL, the answer is 6.2 during veg and 5.8-6.0 during flower :blsmoke:

YES! I do know what the soil/ organic soil charts say for nute intake PH spectrum blah blah blah

Its a nice kind of organic soil and it is actually closer to hydro then you might think.

I have the most success with the final product when I use 1gal vermiculite with 4 gal Roots 707 and switched from standard tall pots to smart pots (google em - THEY ROCK!)

Making these two changes allows a lot more oxygen than previously. And will make your babies stronger than you have ever seen before.
-Why is this relevant?

Because the Roots Organic is some bad ass shit and needs zero nutes (maybe 3-5ml/gal cal-mag) through veg and 2 weeks flower assuming veg is less than 5 weeks...... Being so strong some strains react faster than others to the soils ingredients and i used those as my guide to save my first crop years ago.

After this (week 3 in flower - till flush) sup cal-mag 8-10ml/gal and I add half nutes Terra Flores (works great with 707 - its all about good plant uptake)

- Also I have started adding PK 13/14 at 25% strength for three waterings total during flowering and doing so after week 5 for best result to date.

Flush last 3 weeks - don't be a douche and wait till last two or three watering and quickly run water through......

You have worked so hard leading up to that point - you might as well shoot yourself in the foot lol

USING THESE STEPS ABOVE and not loving my plants to much (took years to figure out and lots of $$$) has been the key to my success.......

Take what info you will and hope it helps,
<3 Rollitup

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P.S. - It are they intro-net and grammmer/ spellings don't got-sta be corrected..... K

MMJ 4 Life :mrgreen:
 

malignant

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thats smart. Many folks forget to take oxygenation of the root zone into consideration when using large pots.
 

datguy

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Im using the 707 a lil over a week in the grow... Watering with nestle pure life bottled water ph 6.3 seem to love it so far
 

Purpsmagurps

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I have my PH set to 6.1-6.2 and my leaves are all curling my runoff is at like under a 4. WTF lol. I'll just flushed with a ph of 8.5 ill let you know how it handles it. :D
 

Sapphyre

Active Member
I use the regular roots organics and love it. On occasion, I will get a batch with a lot of knats so watch for that. Its because they dont sterilize it which I see as a good thing. I talked to them over the phone a year or so ago and basically, the 707 holds more water than the regular; that was about the only difference so if your gonna add perlite or anything to it, you might consider just getting the regular version. It works very well for me.
I don't use Roots soil- but I do use their nutes to supplement my teas and am happy with them for that.

I have started doing my first transplants of seedlings into Ff potting mix - specifically because I always find loads of hypoaspis mites in it. Which is good. They devour root aphid larvae and many other soil baddies... then i switch to KIS Organics water only once they move beyond a solo cup, and my mite population stays healthy the whole way through.

It's been working for me; I've yet to face anything (bug wise) worse than some springtails (NoT throwing a challenge out to the universe!!!! LMAO - I just like my mix)

I amend my KIS soil lightly after harvest and let it "re brew" - using different soil for the next run and alternating batches. I pick amendments based on logic plus anything the last run showed me they were lacking.

Just my .02• :) ....
 

_Waldo_

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I don't use Roots soil- but I do use their nutes to supplement my teas and am happy with them for that.

I have started doing my first transplants of seedlings into Ff potting mix - specifically because I always find loads of hypoaspis mites in it. Which is good. They devour root aphid larvae and many other soil baddies... then i switch to KIS Organics water only once they move beyond a solo cup, and my mite population stays healthy the whole way through.

It's been working for me; I've yet to face anything (bug wise) worse than some springtails (NoT throwing a challenge out to the universe!!!! LMAO - I just like my mix)

I amend my KIS soil lightly after harvest and let it "re brew" - using different soil for the next run and alternating batches. I pick amendments based on logic plus anything the last run showed me they were lacking.

Just my .02• :) ....

Interesting. I’m trying a few different mixtures this year outdoors. Figured I’d give 707 a shot as well.
 

Purpsmagurps

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Yeah my issue with roots was a lot of chlorine that was still gassing out if my water. I'm into straight coco and rdwc now..
 

whoajoey

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I have been using this soil for some time now, and find it, an amazing and safe soil for mmj. I add (per 4gal. cont.) 1/2 cup lime, 1 cup earthworm castings, 1 gal. perlite, 1 cup bone meal, 1 cup green sand. I am averageing 3-4 ounces per plant under two 600 watt digital systems w/mondo hoods/lumatek ballast.[/QUOTE.

after mixing the amendments how long to wait to plant into containers
 
Im using roots 707 -- and this being my first ever grow -- Im having a tough time getting things under control -- I'm certainly not blaming roots, but I seem to be getting nute burn often ( even on watering, not feeding )

Im growing auto ak, 5 plants total -- 1 looks stellar, 1 looks darn good, 2 look ok, 1 guy looks like he wants to die. They are 4 weeks old, and I have fed them twice. I even flushed them last week.. and still one looks like I pissed on him. Daddy is not treating his kids properly...

From what I was told, Roots is pretty mild and requires nutes, but from my experience, it seems that it is a little hot. ( My feedings have been 1/4 strength )
Sounds like a ph issue.
 
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