"Sarah Palin Offered $25,000 By Marijuana Advocates"

Rob Roy

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http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2010/04/sarah_palin_offered_25000_by_marijuana_advocates.php

For serious though, it seems like legalization is starting to become less of a left vs right issue. I hope more and more conservatives come out in favor of ending prohibition, not just ron paul.

The natural right to self ownership and self determination should be a given.

When people use a political party to rob you of life, liberty or property
it doesn't matter to me what they call themself, they are on the wrong side of the issue.

I start with the assumption that ALL people own themselves. If there is ANY need for Government it is to protect rights, not dictate what rights are and never to steal natural rights.

Making people do something is the hallmark of the statist, it matters not whether you are prohibiting a person from controllling their own body or making them contribute their resources to a cause they do not endorse. The underlying wrong remains the State's INITIATION of force.

Both major political parties show inconsistency, both advocate using force, both fail the protecting liberty and self ownership test.
 

max420thc

Well-Known Member
doesnt alaska already have legalized marijuana or decriminalized?
wasnt sara palin the governor of that state?
could she have stopped marijuana use? sure she could have. but she didnt.
 

MexicanWarlord420

Active Member
doesnt alaska already have legalized marijuana or decriminalized?
wasnt sara palin the governor of that state?
could she have stopped marijuana use? sure she could have. but she didnt.
Weed in alaska was legal from 1975-2006
it was re-criminalized in 2006 by Gov Mark Murkowski
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Weed in alaska was legal from 1975-2006
it was re-criminalized in 2006 by Gov Mark Murkowski
I don't believe weed was quite "legal" in Alaska. The Alaskan State constitution had very good privacy rights protections in it and it was difficult to enforce arresting people for possessing at home.

Also the Governor is a member of the executive branch of government, he may have advocated stricter control which would make him an asshole, but not a member of the legislative body and thus able to "make it illegal".

On that note, the separation of powers whereby the legislators are supposed to enact laws is violated by the DEA. They are unelected appointees falling under the executive branch of the Federal government. It is "illegal" for them to both schedule drugs (make laws) and enforce laws...

Legislators make laws, executive branch carries them out, courts interpret them, well that's the way it's SUPPOSED to work anyway. :bigjoint:
 

deprave

New Member
You know whats funny about alaska...many parts of alaska for many years marijuana has been tolerated well...but ETOH remains illegal in parts of alaska a real bottle of whiskey(non home-brew) can sell for around 300$USD (1/5) on the black market
 

darkdestruction420

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I guess thats the end of the hope it will ever get legalized, who the hell would vote for it if she was the face of reform? It' boggles my mind why anyone would ever PAY her to speak, i'd pay for someone to shut her up. lol. spreading all those lies......
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
I don't believe weed was quite "legal" in Alaska. The Alaskan State constitution had very good privacy rights protections in it and it was difficult to enforce arresting people for possessing at home.

Also the Governor is a member of the executive branch of government, he may have advocated stricter control which would make him an asshole, but not a member of the legislative body and thus able to "make it illegal".

On that note, the separation of powers whereby the legislators are supposed to enact laws is violated by the DEA. They are unelected appointees falling under the executive branch of the Federal government. It is "illegal" for them to both schedule drugs (make laws) and enforce laws...

Legislators make laws, executive branch carries them out, courts interpret them, well that's the way it's SUPPOSED to work anyway. :bigjoint:
i had a very long and frustrating conv with CJ about this.

regulating drugs is not a legislative issue anymore. the power to regulate and enforce controls over mind altering drugs falls with the DEA and FDA.

congress cannot try to legalize or illegalize any substance, beause it's not a legislative power anymore, it's an executive one, invested in the FDA and DEA by the 1975 Drug Law.

you can bet your ass the DEA will put up one tough fight all the way up to the supreme court, and probably win, if Congress tries to pass a law legalizing weed. they'll claim seperation of powers, and the power to regulate and enforce drugs falls within the DEA and FDA SOLELY. it can't happen.

a perfect example is crystal meth. that drug didn't exist when the drug law was passed. yet it made it to the list without the need for a congressional hearing, or anything else. a small administrative meeting, with a few FDA and DEA executives was more than enough to make this drug illegal, without the need for congress to act. the law was purposefully written so that illegalizing was very simple, re-legalizing is a practical impossibility, a theoretical possibility, never gonna work.

congress can pass a law, that repeals the 1975 act, effectively disbanding the DEA and legalizing every drug. and work from there. as long as the 1975 stands strong though, nothing's happening.

as a side note, it is interesting to note seperation of powers. the DEA will very likely appeal that it and the FDA alone have the power to regulate and enforce drugs, should legalization enter into discussion within congress. but the constitution says very clearly that giving power to one branch of government to enact laws and another to enforce them is a way to keep things fair.

the DEA and FDA can regulate AND enforce their regulations, a little bit of unconstitutionality on the part of the executive branch in those respects. but if you see how the law is written, the scheduling of drugs isn't technically a law, so it's not unconstitutional, but the 'regulations' are enforced with the full force of the law, which is kind of fucked up.......
 

undertheice

Well-Known Member
Legislators make laws, executive branch carries them out, courts interpret them, well that's the way it's SUPPOSED to work anyway. :bigjoint:
that separation was perverted long ago by power hungry political animals and special interests willing to look the other way to further their agenda. all three branches have become arms of the two dominant parties, playing popularity games with our rights.
 

IAm5toned

Well-Known Member
Im sorry, but Sarah Palin will do more damage than good for the movement....

she has no serious credibility, or else McCain would have won in the first place.
 

IAm5toned

Well-Known Member
You know whats funny about alaska...many parts of alaska for many years marijuana has been tolerated well...but ETOH remains illegal in parts of alaska a real bottle of whiskey(non home-brew) can sell for around 300$USD (1/5) on the black market
because your selling it to the natives....... :evil:
 

Anjinsan

Well-Known Member
Im sorry, but Sarah Palin will do more damage than good for the movement....

she has no serious credibility, or else McCain would have won in the first place.
Arnold Scwartzenager <- sp? Had no credibility either...yet he made gov'nr of California. It's star power. If you think Palin has no star power...you have to pick a new source of getting your news. MSNBC isn't cutting it for you. Furthermore...McCain lost that election all by himself...he looked like a walking corpse...and when he signed on to the bailout bill...he KILLED his core fanbase. Back to Palin...it gives the movement a conservative ally...which makes the issue seem as universal as it really is. They aren't asking for her to be the figurehead...just to give a giant thumbs up and to energize a conservative branch of the movement.

It's a smart play imo...do not know if she will accept though.
 

abe23

Active Member
Well, in this case I think they were trying to make her look like a hypocrite because she spoke to the wine & spirits manufacturer association. I don't think they seriously expect her to agree....

And that's a pretty smart move if you ask me. Point out the blatant hypocrisy of the "pro-freedom, individual choice" crowd regarding marijuana...
 

IAm5toned

Well-Known Member
she resigned as governor without completing a single term of office.
in other words, she couldnt hack it, and quit while she was ahead to save face/reputation.
she's a loose cannon, with no stated agenda, a self proclaimed maverick.
who is she campaigning for?

herself, not us.

i have never watched more than 30 secs of msnbc in my life, unless i needed a good laugh. same goes for fox news, cnn, and all of the major networks.
open your eyes man....
 

Near

Active Member
It seems like a non-issue because I see no way Palin would agree to it. She would be out of her mind to agree to such a thing. Almost all of her supporters are the exact same people who oppose legalization of any currently illegal drug. It would do great damage to the ridiculous image she has created for herself.
 

ViRedd

New Member
she resigned as governor without completing a single term of office.
in other words, she couldnt hack it, and quit while she was ahead to save face/reputation.

Wrong. Palin resigned from the governorship because of the countless frivilous law suits being brought against her and her family by fringe lunitics on the far Left. The expense and time expenditure was costing the state of Alaska way too much. She resigned, handing over the reigns of power to a competent Lt. Governor.


she's a loose cannon, with no stated agenda, a self proclaimed maverick.
who is she campaigning for? herself, not us.

Quite the contrary. Palin is grounded in her faith and conservative/libertarian principles. Her stated agenda is a smaller central government, lower taxes, free markets ... and free minds.

i have never watched more than 30 secs of msnbc in my life, unless i needed a good laugh. same goes for fox news, cnn, and all of the major networks.
open your eyes man....

The only one who needs to open their eyes here is YOU. I don't know what your political principles are, but judging from your posts, you seem to be a Kool-Aid drinking leftie. As such, you are under estimating Palin just like the rest of your ilk ... to your own disadvantage.

Its folks like Palin who make up Middle America ... and Middle America has awakend.

See you at the polls in November, sucker. :lol:
 

abe23

Active Member
Hahahahaha, you guys accuse obama of all sorts of scheming and plotting but you're not willing to recognize palin for the money-grubbing media whore she is? Did someone take a shit in your brain or are you just a republican hack?

Oh yeah....November! See you there!

And Obama 2012!!
 

ViRedd

New Member
Hahahahaha, you guys accuse obama of all sorts of scheming and plotting but you're not willing to recognize palin for the money-grubbing media whore she is? Did someone take a shit in your brain or are you just a republican hack?

Oh yeah....November! See you there!

And Obama 2012!!
Have you seen the polls? Have you seen the makeup of the TEA Party movement? Democrats and Independents account for more members of the TEA Party than do Republicans. And this is nothing yet. Just wait until Saint Obama starts moving toward Cap & Trade and the VAT tax. All hell is gonna break loose my little Progressive friend. :blsmoke:

Again ... see ya at the polls in November, sucka! :lol:
 
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