Satellite data proves Earth has not been warming the past 18 years - it's stable

Darrin661

Active Member
Complete Bs.!!!have you seen the earths trash can in the middle of the ocean.!!it's biger than texas full of plastic.And this years grow season has been tuff due to the random weather...and winds and eathquakes(i live in cali) we have altered the earth too much and now everyones ready for [Bleep] to hit the fan.
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
Climate change will never stop.

Nature has changed the climate forever and always, with, or without, puny Human consent or activity.
There is zero that Humans can do to disrupt this natural cycle. For better or for worse, from the myopic human perspective...change is gonna come, baby!

Change in the climate is so obviously inevitable.

Will silly, ignorant, human activity somehow prevent the next cyclical ice-age?
Nope!

This is all purely and simply about politics and absolutely nothing else.
Power and the acquisition of boatloads of money is all this debate is about.
So called "science" left the building long ago.
Mother Nature can be an unrelenting, unpredictable Bitch!
Try to deal with it!

It all boils down to politics, Kids!
 

Ceepea

Well-Known Member
Climate change will never stop.

Nature has changed the climate forever and always, with, or without, puny Human consent or activity.
There is zero that Humans can do to disrupt this natural cycle. For better or for worse, from the myopic human perspective...change is gonna come, baby!
Well, you and virtually every climate scientist disagree about that. What reason should anyone believe you?

Change in the climate is so obviously inevitable.
The point isn't that climate change can be completely stopped, it's that man-caused global warming CAN be stopped and is beneficial to do so.

Will silly, ignorant, human activity somehow prevent the next cyclical ice-age?
Nope!
How do you know this? What models have you run, what data have you collected to come to this conclusion? Are you just making an assertion, because that's what it sounds like.

This is all purely and simply about politics and absolutely nothing else.
Power and the acquisition of boatloads of money is all this debate is about.
So called "science" left the building long ago.
Mother Nature can be an unrelenting, unpredictable Bitch!
Try to deal with it!

It all boils down to politics, Kids!
It's demonstrable that human activity has dramatically increased the rate of global warming. Fucking fact.
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
Well, you and virtually every climate scientist disagree about that. What reason should anyone believe you?



The point isn't that climate change can be completely stopped, it's that man-caused global warming CAN be stopped and is beneficial to do so.



How do you know this? What models have you run, what data have you collected to come to this conclusion? Are you just making an assertion, because that's what it sounds like.



It's demonstrable that human activity has dramatically increased the rate of global warming. Fucking fact.
Why then, has there been NO warming for the past seventeen years or so.
Your models are woefully bogus.
Hence my skepticism...
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
i recall your standard of proof and willingness to discredit sources you did not agree with in the past.

your track record was supremely shitty.

recall:






















so, how'd those predictions, inability to understand simple, scientific polling, and standard of evidence work out for ya last time?

:lol:

no matter, you probably have it all nailed down this time with much more complex math and science though.
Maybe you should leave this discussion to people who understand the basic concepts of math and those that actually understand politics. YOUR track record on both subjects is abysmal.

UncleBuck;9847393 said:
it's actually .3% if you know how decimals and rounding works.

your math sucks.
NoDrama;9847422 said:
Great rounding, but your answer is 100 times too large. 4000/150 million = .0000266 that does not equate to .3% if you round it up you get .0027%

Decimal place only moves 2 spots because the hundredths( a percentage) only has 2 zeroes.

You suck at math, and when expressing percentages you go to the hundredths place unless its even less, you don't "round up".

edit: You would think with all the many times you have screwed up your math that you would double check these things. Not everyone was destined to graduate from University though.

The Irony is so thick you could spoon it out of your last post.
MuyLocoNC;9847470 said:
He also sucks at simple division. No talking your way out of this one UB, straight up wrong. You are now officially the very LAST member on RIU that should ever correct another member's math. How the fuck you actually managed to pass Cheebs in that foot race is beyond me.

Man, that's gotta sting. Comin' all condescending and shit, only to drop your dick in the dirt.

WOOOOOOOPS!!!
UncleBuck;9847529 said:
4000/1500000 = .00266666666

expressed as a percentage, that is 0.266666666%, or 0.3% for those of us who like to round.

1/10 = .1 = 10%
1/100 = .01 = 1%
4k/1.5 million = .00266666 = .26666%

your problem is that you fucked up the first step and it all fell apart right there.
UncleBuck;9847536 said:
lol. you are stupider than stupid when it gets high on stupid and chases it with a shot straight stupid while snorting stupid.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=4000/1500000
UncleBuck;9847540 said:
it's close enough to the number of insured.

maybe.

really, all that matters is that nodrama fucked up his math for the second time this week and needed me to correct him.
NoDrama;9847541 said:
Holy shit, out of the frying pan and into the fire!!!!

150 million is 150 followed by SIX ZEROES not five like in your example.

Please stop before losing the respect of even Cheezy, for gods sake please!!!!
UncleBuck;9847543 said:
that's why they would go into overdrive mode to find a bullshit reason to rescind, dummy.

you're as bad at common sense as you are at simple math.
UncleBuck;9847545 said:
shit. i fucked up the first step.
NoDrama;9847552 said:
That creamy smooth irony just turned into rough and rocky irony, the kind that is hard to swallow.
MuyLocoNC;9847560 said:
OMG, so condescending and so undeserving of fostering said condescension. You couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
I'm putting together the Great Ron Paul debacle of '14.
 

Ceepea

Well-Known Member
Sorry, you have been tragically and pathetically misinformed...keep guzzling the kool aid!
Yummy, a big government favorite, quite salubrious to big government devotees!! Tasty stuff.

Did you not watch the video? They didn't just use satellites, they used a bunch of methods for determining the extent of global warming, and they found that the earths temp is NOT plateauing.

You claim I'm drinking 'Kool-aid', but you appear to be chugging Aqua velva.
 

Ceepea

Well-Known Member



How reliable are climate models?
Link to this page
What the science says...



Models successfully reproduce temperatures since 1900 globally, by land, in the air and the ocean.

Climate Myth...
Models are unreliable

"[Models] are full of fudge factors that are fitted to the existing climate, so the models more or less agree with the observed data. But there is no reason to believe that the same fudge factors would give the right behaviour in a world with different chemistry, for example in a world with increased CO2 in the atmosphere." (Freeman Dyson)

Climate models are mathematical representations of the interactions between the atmosphere, oceans, land surface, ice – and the sun. This is clearly a very complex task, so models are built to estimate trends rather than events. For example, a climate model can tell you it will be cold in winter, but it can’t tell you what the temperature will be on a specific day – that’s weather forecasting. Climate trends are weather, averaged out over time - usually 30 years. Trends are important because they eliminate - or "smooth out" - single events that may be extreme, but quite rare.

Climate models have to be tested to find out if they work. We can’t wait for 30 years to see if a model is any good or not; models are tested against the past, against what we know happened. If a model can correctly predict trends from a starting point somewhere in the past, we could expect it to predict with reasonable certainty what might happen in the future.

So all models are first tested in a process called Hindcasting. The models used to predict future global warming can accurately map past climate changes. If they get the past right, there is no reason to think their predictions would be wrong. Testing models against the existing instrumental record suggested CO2 must cause global warming, because the models could not simulate what had already happened unless the extra CO2 was added to the model. All other known forcings are adequate in explaining temperature variations prior to the rise in temperature over the last thirty years, while none of them are capable of explaining the rise in the past thirty years. CO2 does explain that rise, and explains it completely without any need for additional, as yet unknown forcings.

Where models have been running for sufficient time, they have also been proved to make accurate predictions. For example, the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo allowed modellers to test the accuracy of models by feeding in the data about the eruption. The models successfully predicted the climatic response after the eruption. Models also correctly predicted other effects subsequently confirmed by observation, including greater warming in the Arctic and over land, greater warming at night, and stratospheric cooling.

The climate models, far from being melodramatic, may be conservative in the predictions they produce. For example, here’s a graph of sea level rise:



Observed sea level rise since 1970 from tide gauge data (red) and satellite measurements (blue) compared to model projections for 1990-2010 from the IPCC Third Assessment Report (grey band). (Source: The Copenhagen Diagnosis, 2009)

Put down the aftershave.
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
There has, 2000-2010 was the hottest decade on record

You're not a skeptic, you're a denialist

So far, this year of 2014 has been the very coolest in recorded history on the North American continent.
Notice I said so far.

I believe in the nature and discipline of the PURE scientific method, you obviously, do not.

Your preferred science is heavily adulterated with politics.
 

Ceepea

Well-Known Member
Cowton and Way include these key areas in their report using satellite data and run more comprehensive models of climate change that were twice as accurate as those laid out by the Met Office. While the Met Office’s report shows no increase of global temperatures over a 15 year timespan, the new report with a more complete data set shows that there is barely a pause at all, which certainly would not indicate that climate change is on hold or nonexistent, as some may claim.

Even though the surface of the ocean may not be experiencing great change, the deep waters are growing hotter, which threatens a great deal of biodiversity. When taking the vast amount of information into account, it is undeniable that climate change is happening. Instead of arguing about its existence, we should be coming together and figuring out what can and should be done about it.


Read more at http://www.iflscience.com/environment/has-climate-change-paused-nope#ghh28dIQpWE13a31.99
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
Did you not watch the video? They didn't just use satellites, they used a bunch of methods for determining the extent of global warming, and they found that the earths temp is NOT plateauing.

You claim I'm drinking 'Kool-aid', but you appear to be chugging Aqua velva.
I watched and more importantly listened to your desperately erroneous video.

Kool aid tastes better, and you seem to enjoy it's effects!
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
So far, this year of 2014 has been the very coolest in recorded history on the North American continent.
Notice I said so far.

I believe in the nature and discipline of the PURE scientific method, you obviously, do not.

Your preferred science is heavily adulterated with politics.
You're making shit up

You don't believe in the scientific method

Your side is where the "controversy" exists (politics), science progresses on my side
 

Ceepea

Well-Known Member
So far, this year of 2014 has been the very coolest in recorded history on the North American continent.
Notice I said so far.

I believe in the nature and discipline of the PURE scientific method, you obviously, do not.

Your preferred science is heavily adulterated with politics.
You can make whatever fallacious claims you want, all climate change deniers do. It's your right to be wrong.

And you are wrong.

 
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