SCOTTYBALLS Tribute Grow! Pineapple Express 400w Scrog Waterfarm

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pcn3rd

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mears220 said:
hey kriznarf just a quick question how long do you run your airpump iv just bought an aquafarm and i'm abit wary about how many times a day do you run yor airpump and for how long thanks in advance
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first off, its recommended you get yourself a different airpump than the one that comes with the waterfarm. You can go to Walmart or similar and get yourself an aquarium pump rated for up to 50 gallons.. they are like 10 bucks..

As for for when you should run the pump.... You do NOT turn your pump off as its basically breathing for your plants roots and it doesn't take long for those roots to get damaged when the pump is off.. hope this helps ;)

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I just saw you posted that you bought an aquafarm.. i do not know what kind of pump they come with but i'll leave my original recommendation just in case..
 
mears220

mears220

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pcn3rd said:
first off, its recommended you get yourself a different airpump than the one that comes with the waterfarm. You can go to Walmart or similar and get yourself an aquarium pump rated for up to 50 gallons.. they are like 10 bucks..

As for for when you should run the pump.... You do NOT turn your pump off as its basically breathing for your plants roots and it doesn't take long for those roots to get damaged when the pump is off.. hope this helps ;)

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I just saw you posted that you bought an aquafarm.. i do not know what kind of pump they come with but i'll leave my original recommendation just in case..
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thanks for the advice mate i was think that but iv seen allot of people saying different things just wanted to no for sure +rep and sorry kriznaf for jacking your journal abit:peace:
 
ironheadxl

ironheadxl

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kriznarf said:
This is a great idea and I will totally do this. Cheers.
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so totally agree, I have been LST-ing my plants and am amazed at how fast they respond with helio centric movemet in fact I tied the Western Winds down about 11 pm last night pretty flat and darned if it had not only turned to face the sun but had shot up an inch at least. Main point is those minor leaves have turned into major growth! Whooo hoo baby! I was thinking screening at about 8 inches high.
One other thing I like to do now is to keep a spare res. on hand and now switch them whenever I need to change solutions / flush, bam work is done! BTW so nice of Scottyballs to drop in like that, cool.
 
kriznarf

kriznarf

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mears220 said:
thanks for the advice mate i was think that but iv seen allot of people saying different things just wanted to no for sure +rep and sorry kriznaf for jacking your journal abit:peace:
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It's cool. And pcn3rd is totally right. Get a better air pump than the stock pump that comes with the aquafarm. Leave it on 24/7. My pump is total overkill for a single waterfarm, but I believe this is one of those areas where it's much better to over do it than to under do it.
 
kriznarf

kriznarf

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Day: 29

PPM: 650
PH: 6.8
Feeling: Good

She's looking great. Haven't done any true LST'ing, but I have been training her side branches out a bit just by working the fan leaves in particular ways. Doing my best to expose those side branches to as much light as possible. Looks to be spreading her out pretty well.

PPM started to creep up a bit. Was about 775 yesterday morning. Added about a gallon of fresh water at 450, which brought the PPM to about 650. It's stayed there through a couple testings since, so I'm thinking this a good level for now. She's certainly drinking a lot more.

Pretty Excited to be laying the screen down later today. I'm still debating the height a bit, but I'll probably go with 10 or 11 inches. Can't wait to start training her into that perfect canopy.

This shit is way too much fun.
 

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mr2shim

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kriznarf said:
Day: 29

PPM: 650
PH: 6.8
Feeling: Good

She's looking great. Haven't done any true LST'ing, but I have been training her side branches out a bit just by working the fan leaves in particular ways. Doing my best to expose those side branches to as much light as possible. Looks to be spreading her out pretty well.

PPM started to creep up a bit. Was about 775 yesterday morning. Added about a gallon of fresh water at 450, which brought the PPM to about 650. It's stayed there through a couple testings since, so I'm thinking this a good level for now. She's certainly drinking a lot more.

Pretty Excited to be laying the screen down later today. I'm still debating the height a bit, but I'll probably go with 10 or 11 inches. Can't wait to start training her into that perfect canopy.

This shit is way too much fun.
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By the way that is looking it is going to fill up the tent now. Mine plant was smaller than that when i switched and my tent is 36x20
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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Man that's a nice setup, how's the negative pressure once you close the tent? Great job on the screen.
 
kriznarf

kriznarf

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mr2shim said:
Man that's a nice setup, how's the negative pressure once you close the tent? Great job on the screen.
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Negative pressure/airflow is decent. Temps stay between 75 F and 85 F, depending on the time of day/ambient temperature. I'll be happy to get the HPS bulb up. The MH puts out a lot of heat.

It's worth noting that my fan is only 200 CFM. A few people I consulted said that 200 CFM would be more than enough for a tent of my size, but on those rare hot days, I wish that I had a 400 CFM to really keep things cool.
 
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Hobgoblit

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kriznarf said:
Negative pressure/airflow is decent. Temps stay between 75 F and 85 F, depending on the time of day/ambient temperature. I'll be happy to get the HPS bulb up. The MH puts out a lot of heat.

It's worth noting that my fan is only 200 CFM. A few people I consulted said that 200 CFM would be more than enough for a tent of my size, but on those rare hot days, I wish that I had a 400 CFM to really keep things cool.
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I use 6 inch industrial server fans. Like a computer fan, but way larger. Back in the day I probably would have laughed if someone told me that. I have 2, and just had to say they rock on so many levels. High output, really light weight, and almost no heat. The best part is you can pick them up on ebay for cheap, both mine cost me $50.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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Declectic said:
what exactly does this mean?
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Example. Take a box, seal it up completely, stick a fan in it with one exhaust hole that is sealed as well, so air only has one way in and one way out. you do NOT connect the exhaust fan to the inlet, but rather have the fan suck air up from the bottom, it creates a negative pressure.

Basically you don't need an intake fan to have airflow inside the tent. Check out my grow, my setup is like this. I have some detailed pictures to get a visual of it somewhere in the first few pages.
 
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Fuzznutz

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So Kriz, Are you saying I should go for a 400 CFM? Still researching fans. Need something quite and dependable. Although I do understand that most, if not all, the sound is generated by airflow making it's way thought the ducting. Give me your thoughts before I pull the trigger.

BTW: Still looking good. Really like the clean, stream lined look. You must be as anal retentive as me.
 
kriznarf

kriznarf

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mr2shim said:
Example. Take a box, seal it up completely, stick a fan in it with one exhaust hole that is sealed as well, so air only has one way in and one way out. you do NOT connect the exhaust fan to the inlet, but rather have the fan suck air up from the bottom, it creates a negative pressure.

Basically you don't need an intake fan to have airflow inside the tent. Check out my grow, my setup is like this. I have some detailed pictures to get a visual of it somewhere in the first few pages.
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Actually, negative pressure is caused by a build up of negatons, the tiny dust-like particles that often flake off of unwashed hydroton. They fill the air, which puts a "negative" pressure on the plant's dignaltary system.

Don't believe mr2shim's lies.
 
kriznarf

kriznarf

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Fuzznutz said:
So Kriz, Are you saying I should go for a 400 CFM? Still researching fans. Need something quite and dependable. Although I do understand that most, if not all, the sound is generated by airflow making it's way thought the ducting. Give me your thoughts before I pull the trigger.

BTW: Still looking good. Really like the clean, stream lined look. You must be as anal retentive as me.
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I would certainly look into a 400 CFM fan, though you probably don't need one. There have really only been a couple of days where I wished I had one, but ambient temps were really high on those days. I rarely have temperature control issues with my 200 CFM fan.

I've heard that a 400 CFM fan doesn't make that much more noise than a 200, but I can't speak on that personally. I'm sure you could find decibel counts somewhere online. Also, I'm not so sure you're on point about the noise issue. My fan is certainly the loudest part of my system, as opposed to the moving air itself. This was the case even before I installed the muffler.

And thanks for the compliments. Yeah, I'm pretty detail oriented.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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kriznarf said:
Actually, negative pressure is caused by a build up of negatons, the tiny dust-like particles that often flake off of unwashed hydroton. They fill the air, which puts a "negative" pressure on the plant's dignaltary system.

Don't believe mr2shim's lies.
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lol'd,. haha

My fan is also by far the loudest part of my setup. I thought the air pump as loud before the fan arrived.
 
kriznarf

kriznarf

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Day: 32

PPM: 825

Been a few days. Continuously pleased with how she's doing. I lowered the light and bumped her nutes to 825 PPM yesterday, which has held constant since.

I check on her so often it's hard for me to realize how quickly she's still growing. I've started to train the tops into the screen. You may be able to see a slight curve in the main stalk. Hopefully it's not too late to keep working it towards the edge. Curse me for not jumping on that LST when I should have!

I'm thinking that I'll be flipping to 12/12 and throwing up the HPS in three days, which will be day 35. Super excited for that 12/12 stretch!
 

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