Sealed room with gavitas has leafs slightly cupin.

Daggy

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Just switched my whole setup to a sealed room with Gavitas and c02 and start running into this issue.
I have some plant outdoor that its not happening too.
 

Freddie Millergogo

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You have them cranked up to 1000 watts? Maybe try turning them down. The guy at the grow store likes them. He says you can dial em down or up. Down for veg and up for flower.

That looks like a teen or younger plant. Clones, babies and teens are pretty delicate and HIDs can fry em pretty easily.
 

Daggy

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Some more pics
You have them cranked up to 1000 watts? Maybe try turning them down. The guy at the grow store likes them. He says you can dial em down or up. Down for veg and up for flower.

That looks like a teen or younger plant. Clones, babies and teens are pretty delicate and HIDs can fry em pretty easily.
Honestly I have had them at 600w for a while now and turning them up slightly .
I keepo running into this issue,. The last picture I posted was just of a small plant in my veg which is not sealed. My flower room starting drooping yesterday and has been bouncing back from a issue with high salts, however I feel like ive had a Mg issue and been trying to asses it, but my runoff ph and EC is normal.

 

Timboy5

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ive seen this happen when ph was off in the medium. What is the run off ph and what are they in? Dirt?
 

Daggy

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ive seen this happen when ph was off in the medium. What is the run off ph and what are they in? Dirt?
Im using nutrifield coco+perlite mic. I hjave been using coco for about 4 years now and havent had any issues until I try to set up a sealed room with c02 and gavitas.
I am aware of ph and salt build up issues so thats the first thing I check. Ive just started watering them everyday now to see if that will help them bounce back. I checked the runoff about 3-4 days ago and it was a little high so I waterd them hard with a diluted rate of nutes and now I know I dont have any salt or ph issues because whats coming in is coming out. I hope this starting to water everyday snaps them back.
 

Timboy5

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Im using nutrifield coco+perlite mic. I hjave been using coco for about 4 years now and havent had any issues until I try to set up a sealed room with c02 and gavitas.
I am aware of ph and salt build up issues so thats the first thing I check. Ive just started watering them everyday now to see if that will help them bounce back. I checked the runoff about 3-4 days ago and it was a little high so I waterd them hard with a diluted rate of nutes and now I know I dont have any salt or ph issues because whats coming in is coming out. I hope this starting to water everyday snaps them back.
Hmm maybe try exhausting the air in the room as the lights go off so they have fresh air at night when co2 is not needed. How close are the lights?
 

Daggy

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Hmm maybe try exhausting the air in the room as the lights go off so they have fresh air at night when co2 is not needed. How close are the lights?
They are gavitas and they are in a 12ft room so 11ft for sure.
Canopy is about 4-5 feet from floor.
 

Daggy

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Hmm maybe try exhausting the air in the room as the lights go off so they have fresh air at night when co2 is not needed. How close are the lights?
I thought about that, but wouldnt that be defeating the purpose of a sealed room? Ive heard something about that too maybe I should try to install an intake to turn on a couple mins every hour. Ive never tried to do it becasue mostly im scared of light leaks, and also im pretty sure sealed rooms run with no intake.
 

SPLFreak808

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Just switched my whole setup to a sealed room with Gavitas and c02 and start running into this issue.
I have some plant outdoor that its not happening too.
How are you adding c02? How is ppm counted? Do the plants seem to perk up at any time?
 

Michael Huntherz

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Like honestly in veg that dosent matter. I have rocked 70%-90% humidity for years and have had plants thriving.
I usually go by the VPD chart. During the day humidity is like 40-60 then jumps at night.
VPD is magic when managed well, totally. Gavitas are more trouble than they are worth, in my opinion, those bulbs get crazy hot. Good luck getting it dialed, looks pretty tight.
 

SPLFreak808

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Yeah when they wake up lol.
I have a Titan controller and a 20lb tank.
I had it around 700-800
yeah just curious if you we're using a burner or something.
That looks like some kind of root issue/ or wrong ratio / lockout issue to me. Care to post up watering cycles and nutrient program?

I also agree with these guys talking about vpd, The proper humidity and temps take a good deal of transpiration stress off plants under bright lights <where vpd matters mostuser299140_pic892488_1338439953.jpg
 
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Daggy

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yeah just curious if you we're using a burner or something.
That looks like some kind of root issue/ or wrong ratio / lockout issue to me. Care to post up watering cycles and nutrient program?

I also agree with these guys talking about vpd, The proper humidity and temps take a good deal of transpiration stress off plants under bright lights <where vpd matters mostView attachment 3776547
Im using Veg+Bloom
Starting using my old recipe of FloraNOVA Bloom and Calmag
No difference so far.
Im trying to water them everyday, but before they would go a couple days without water.
 

Daggy

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I think they are looking slightly better today, I read somewhere that there could be too much air movement around the plants so I turned my ac from the fan on max to auto.
They deffinetely are not praying, but better than yesterday.
If anything atleast this thread is helping me keep track of the issue.


 
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