Weouthere

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I’ve had some plants before, but my younger stupid ass killed em.
I Want to take it slower and more simply, I tried way too much last time.
SO... here’s my plan. I my plant is VERY young and I want to veg it outside (the plant I took it from is doing AMAZING outside right now)
BUT I’ve started so late. I live in Washington, so our light is already starting to get shorter, and I’m worried about bud rot and other issues that could arise
I want to then Flower it indoor (or pull it in when the weather is terrible) I jut finished a grow box today for it that will work fine I think
Any advice is welcome, thanks guys
 

ganga gurl420

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A lot of people do that. Just be careful about bringing in outdoor plants because you can be bringing in pests with it
You can always take another clone and start it early next yr and then stick it out to get a bigger plant.
Good luck
 

too larry

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Pictures always help. But use the sun as long as you can, then clean them up and bring them inside.

Good luck.
 

SuperNutz

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I mean like how many gallons of soil, plant size, indoor as in house or garage. You might just want to build a little greenhouse with some fans and a dehumidifier if it's that damp... Maybe put wheels on your grow box and roll it into the garage... idk
 

SuperNutz

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So here’s the box, my plant, and where I had it the last few days to acclimate it. I’ll post another pic soon of where it is today. The box is in my garage, will be the whole time
I thought you meant moving the bigger plant in and out and that the box was some sort of planter for that one, my bad. Unless you move the little one in before dusk every night, you risk it going into flower and like ganjagurl said pests. Once you have pests indoors, that plant will be their only source of a habitable environment so either way start a pest prevention routine with neem oil or something. If it was me tho, I'd douse it with neem, wait a week while it's outside, douse it again, then veg it indoors for another month for a better yield. and maybe sterilize that box before bringing the plant permanently in just incase it's already contaminated. Hope some of what I said can be of help.
 

Brother Sweetleaf

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I’ve had some plants before, but my younger stupid ass killed em.
:lol: Wise enough to know that you don't know, though, eh?
I Want to take it slower and more simply, I tried way too much last time.
See? Quite wise enough. Just having an awareness of your plants & their potential, an accountability for your actions, & the care to learn from your mistakes & grow as a grower, puts you way ahead of the game.
...I want to veg it outside... BUT I’ve started so late... I want to then Flower it indoor (or pull it in when the weather is terrible) I jut finished a grow box today for it that will work fine I think
Any advice is welcome
OK, WeOutThere. Great of you to ask-up. It's a noble venture for you to begin growing when the opportunity came to you... But it's unfortunately not the best time to begin a grow outdoors (even if you're moving it inside), and let me tell you why:

You're too far past the Summer Solstice. It just so happens that late-start crops happen to be an area that I have some experience in (be sure to catch my upcoming Youtube video series "Outdoor Grow: Guerilla Autoflower for Late-Summer/Early Autumn"!), and I've learned that the youth of a plant is when it's yearning, reaching, growing, expanding, developing... And the outdoor light, temperatures, and subtleties in the air all progressively descent towards the Autumnal Equinox, frosty temperatures, & Death... The environment itself is counter-intuitive to the very life-cycle of the plant. Some might think that I sound all hippy here (and they'd be quite true! :wink:), but it's also a scientific reality.

Also, although it may not be easy to hear, I gotta throw my own hat in that ring re: The Bug Issue-- as mentioned by Ganja Gurl420, TooLarry, & SuperNutz. Although you may be headache-free from any (known) pest-issues, that there truly & totally DOES need to be addressed. Spraying them with Neem oil, blasting mist from a hose, surrounding the plant in an insect netting filled with ladybugs or praying mantii-- however you do it, you really should ensure as best you can that all outdoor plants are decontaminated from bugs before entering their regular Wintertime grow-space. Keep that grow-space sterile and you'll be doing great, because pests & problems are secretly but actively looking to get in there for devouring your plants, so pest-prevention (along with mold-prevention) is of upmost importance!

That said, I think I know what you're looking for, & yeah, it's too rough. Get your Wintertime set-up established ASAP, if it isn't already. That adorable little green girl should have a gradual INCREASE in light, if anything, not a decrease like it's been getting & will continue to get if using Sunlight only. Now mind you-- I am & always have been exclusively an outdoor grower. I can preach you up & down about the benefits of Sunlight & rainwater, of fresh earth & breezy fresh-air, and I think that if you mitigate the insect risks & remain vigilant in your determination to guard against mold & mildew, then absolutely feed that girl as much sunlight as you can... But keep it in light for at least 12-hours, but if you want any bud this harvest, then you'd do well to get that up towards (or at) 18 hours or so of light, Man. Top Priority. That supplementary lighting should NOT be supplementary. It's going on September now, and the Sunlight should be your bonus supplementary lighting, but certainly not your only source. I'm just about (if not exactly) on the same Longitude line as you, so seasons & climates are fairly similar, though your seasons may arrive even a bit sooner because of your elevation, which only heightens the need for your indoor lighting to be ready ASAP.

Now... THAT said... Despite the fact that it's quite a bit of extra work & energy, I think that what you're proposing to do could be a perfect set-up... With direct sunlight for as long as possible (direct early morning sunlight is always awesome, if not better) and then proper indoor lighting for the remainder of some total 18ish-hour light-cycle-- bug-free while maintaining sterility of your grow-room-- you should be operating something I only fantasize about.

Good luck! :leaf:;)
 
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Weouthere

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I thought you meant moving the bigger plant in and out and that the box was some sort of planter for that one, my bad. Unless you move the little one in before dusk every night, you risk it going into flower and like ganjagurl said pests. Once you have pests indoors, that plant will be their only source of a habitable environment so either way start a pest prevention routine with neem oil or something. If it was me tho, I'd douse it with neem, wait a week while it's outside, douse it again, then veg it indoors for another month for a better yield. and maybe sterilize that box before bringing the plant permanently in just incase it's already contaminated. Hope some of what I said can be of help.
I’ve been keeping track of the amount of light we’re getting (sunrise and sunset) and we’re at about 14 1/2 hours right now. Once it gets closer to 13hrs was when I was planning on bringing it inside fully. I could bring it in sooner if that’s too late though, whatdya think?
And just so I’m clear you’re saying douse it with neem, leave it for a week, then do the rest of the vegging indoors?
Or do a few cycles of the neem treatment (spray, let sit for a week) then bring inside?
 

Weouthere

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:lol: Wise enough to know that you don't know, though, eh?

See? Quite wise enough. Just having an awareness of your plants & their potential, an accountability for your actions, & the care to learn from your mistakes & grow as a grower, puts you way ahead of the game.

OK, WeOutThere. Great of you to ask-up. It's a noble venture for you to begin growing when the opportunity came to you... But it's unfortunately not the best time to begin a grow outdoors (even if you're moving it inside), and let me tell you why:

You're too far past the Summer Solstice. It just so happens that late-start crops happen to be an area that I have some experience in (be sure to catch my upcoming Youtube video series "Outdoor Grow: Guerilla Autoflower for Late-Summer/Early Autumn"!), and I've learned that the youth of a plant is when it's yearning, reaching, growing, expanding, developing... And the outdoor light, temperatures, and subtleties in the air all progressively descent towards the Autumnal Equinox, frosty temperatures, & Death... The environment itself is counter-intuitive to the very life-cycle of the plant. Some might think that I sound all hippy here (and they'd be quite true! :wink:), but it's also a scientific reality.

Also, although it may not be easy to hear, I gotta throw my own hat in that ring re: The Bug Issue-- as mentioned by Ganja Gurl420, TooLarry, & SuperNutz. Although you may be headache-free from any (known) pest-issues, that there truly & totally DOES need to be addressed. Spraying them with Neem oil, blasting mist from a hose, surrounding the plant in an insect netting filled with ladybugs or praying mantii-- however you do it, you really should ensure as best you can that all outdoor plants are decontaminated from bugs before entering their regular Wintertime grow-space. Keep that grow-space sterile and you'll be doing great, because pests & problems are secretly but actively looking to get in there for devouring your plants, so pest-prevention (along with mold-prevention) is of upmost importance!

That said, I think I know what you're looking for, & yeah, it's too rough. Get your Wintertime set-up established ASAP, if it isn't already. That adorable little green girl should have a gradual INCREASE in light, if anything, not a decrease like it's been getting & will continue to get if using Sunlight only. Now mind you-- I am & always have been exclusively an outdoor grower. I can preach you up & down about the benefits of Sunlight & rainwater, of fresh earth & breezy fresh-air, and I think that if you mitigate the insect risks & remain vigilant in your determination to guard against mold & mildew, then absolutely feed that girl as much sunlight as you can... But keep it in light for at least 12-hours, but if you want any bud this harvest, then you'd do well to get that up towards (or at) 18 hours or so of light, Man. Top Priority. That supplementary lighting should NOT be supplementary. It's going on September now, and the Sunlight should be your bonus supplementary lighting, but certainly not your only source. I'm just about (if not exactly) on the same Longitude line as you, so seasons & climates are fairly similar, though your seasons may arrive even a bit sooner because of your elevation, which only heightens the need for your indoor lighting to be ready ASAP.

Now... THAT said... I think it can be a perfect set-up you've got there... With direct sunlight for as long as possible (direct early morning sunlight is always awesome, if not better) and then proper indoor lighting for the remainder of some total 18ish-hour light-cycle-- bug-free while maintaining sterility of your grow-room-- you should be operating something I only fantasize about.

Good luck! :leaf:;)
WOW, loved so much of this man
I’ve been worried about the ever shortening light, so that was a really good read.
I would’ve loved to be fully outdoors, and come this next season i for sure will be, I agree with you on the fertility of Mother Nature.
I’ve got a bunch of neem, I’ll sterilize everything tomorrow morning
 

SuperNutz

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Was saying douse it asap, wait a week while leaving it outside, then one more spraying and then take it permanently in and veg it till its a better yielding size. What kind of light are you going to flower with? Don't forget room for the stretch when you flip her to flower lol, you don't want that box to turn into a one woman clown car lol.
 
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Weouthere

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Was saying douse it asap, wait a week while leaving it outside, then one more spraying and then take it permanently in and veg it till its a better yielding size. What kind of light are you going to flower with? Don't forget room for the stretch when you flip her to flower lol, you don't want that box to turn into a one woman clown car lol.
Okay thanks for that clarification man! :)
I only made the box that big so I could would be kinda forced to keep it small, I really just want to learn how the plant works and growing basics, small is okay wit me, not really concerned about big yields. Just want one start to finish to know , and move from there
“One woman clown car” that got me :’D
For sure have kept that in mind though, thanks man!
Honestly haven’t thought about a flowering light yet, any cheaper options? Really limited budget wise
 

Brother Sweetleaf

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Honestly haven’t thought about a flowering light yet, any cheaper options? Really limited budget wise
Oof... Yeah... Consider this more of a Pre-Season Investigative Research Experiment, LOL. I've had late grows, and plants that produced less than an 8th of bud, and I think this'll be one of those for you, WeOutThere, but keep at it! Honestly, I'd invest your loot towards setting-up for next year this year. Make it happen. To avoid this sorta thing (like you're going through now, as a grower-to-be), I've found that it requires investing early, usually by the previous December or early January of the year you plan to grow.

But I'm an outdoor grower myself, so I have no suggestions for lighting indoors. Good luck! :weed:
 

SuperNutz

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Okay thanks for that clarification man! :)
I only made the box that big so I could would be kinda forced to keep it small, I really just want to learn how the plant works and growing basics, small is okay wit me, not really concerned about big yields. Just want one start to finish to know , and move from there
“One woman clown car” that got me :’D
For sure have kept that in mind though, thanks man!
Honestly haven’t thought about a flowering light yet, any cheaper options? Really limited budget wise
Sure you can find something cheap on craigslist, for that box I wouldn't go with anything more then a 150 watt HPS and that will still need good work cooling. But idk, maybe just keep her bushy and take a bunch of cuttings for clones this winter? That box will get you about an ounce of bud, where cloning her around January like sweetleaf said about outdoor planning for next season could be hefty.
 

SuperNutz

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My bad lol, the light I was thinking of is 70 watt hps, they have them with the bulb at home depot for $60.. just checked. Too don't burn your house down, monitor the heat.
 

Brother Sweetleaf

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High Pressure Sodium lights & those good ol' school grow-lights are affordable, but research them, because you need a ballast & some extra electrical know-how to avoid burning the place down & racking-up a suspiciously large electrical bill... Not to mention the fans to circulate air, & a ventilation system so it doesn't get too hot.

It's not just a screw-it-in & you're good-to-go sort-of thing. Research & decide; then purchase once you know everything you'll truly require. Those all-in-one kit-tent things might be the way to go.
 
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