Sessions: I'm Shutting Down Colorado

ttystikk

ttystikk

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esh dov ets said:
what is that? like impeachment n stuff.?
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If they are installed with the help of corporate cash, those corporations- or more precisely, their major donor class shareholders- will the only ones who they'll listen to.

If they're elected by the people with no private cash involved, then they'll be accountable to us.

It doesn't have to be complicated.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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esh dov ets

esh dov ets

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rkymtnman said:
Current states' rights issues include the death penalty, assisted suicide, same-sex marriage, gun control, and cannabis, the last of which is in direct violation of federal law. In Gonzales v. Raich, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the federal government, permitting the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to arrest medical marijuana patients and caregivers.
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Interesting . My point still stands. I didn't know capital punishment was against federal law. Where is assited suicide legal?
 
esh dov ets

esh dov ets

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ttystikk said:
If they are installed with the help of corporate cash, those corporations- or more precisely, their major donor class shareholders- will the only ones who they'll listen to.

If they're elected by the people with no private cash involved, then they'll be accountable to us.

It doesn't have to be complicated.
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They are supposed to be accountable to us yet they almost are not. There is dark money and idealoge positions that would not change if only campaign finance was addressed. It does need to be adressed though.
To add to what you said (agreeing with you) about economic issues being social issues.. all economic issues are social issues not all social issues are economic
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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esh dov ets said:
They are supposed to be accountable to us yet they almost are not. There is dark money and idealoge positions that would not change if only campaign finance was addressed. It does need to be adressed though.
To add to what you said (agreeing with you) about economic issues being social issues.. all economic issues are social issues not all social issues are economic
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That's the point of the amendment Movement; to END all sources of cash into campaigns that don't come from citizens, and to limit the amounts to those that are within reach of nearly anyone. The idea that one man- Sheldon Adelson in this case- can single-handedly contribute as much money as the entire bottom half of all citizens in the US is corrupt, pure and simple.

What I don't understand is why anyone who isn't part of the donor class would tolerate that, much less support it.
 
HeatlessBBQ

HeatlessBBQ

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schuylaar said:
You heard it here first..

No wonder security is tightening around the WH and they're closing off access.

'Something very big and good is about to happen' -Donald J Trump, today.
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dDidn't You hear ?

Donald recently picked up the pipe *cough cough*
 
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esh dov ets

esh dov ets

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rkymtnman said:
Current states' rights issues include the death penalty, assisted suicide, same-sex marriage, gun control, and cannabis, the last of which is in direct violation of federal law. In Gonzales v. Raich, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the federal government, permitting the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to arrest medical marijuana patients and caregivers.
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That case ruling was unconstitutional. There is the supremacy cluase but there is something that says when it can not be used. I was around the movement that brought us prop 215 and that was a big part of how it was able to be passed.
Death penalties are not federally illeagal. Some states outlaw the death penaltie so it's simalar but not the same. There is no federal law against same sex marriage .. it is a matter of interpretation of the law that states are adressing ahead of the government to protect human rights. Still different. Gun control comes down to several types of laws and regulations many of which states have state control over. Suicide is illeagal which shows how powerful the government is. Assisted suicide may be protected by the constitution or it may not either way the courts ruled it is only permitted under certain circumstances in about 6 states. The only thing these things have in common is that states have different rules. The laws and stipulations that allow them this are some of the same but not all the same in each case. It is interesting that the same types of people attack these rights but different kinds of people defend different ones respectively.
 
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