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Sk306

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Yeah man, I'd love to know about your tech, if you don't mind. I've been smoking on bho, but it's too expensive for me right now to run it myself, especially if I'm only achieving 10%.
 

Fadedawg

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Yeah man, I'd love to know about your tech, if you don't mind. I've been smoking on bho, but it's too expensive for me right now to run it myself, especially if I'm only achieving 10%.
We get 20+% from prime bud, but only about half that from trim. What are you running?
 

WarMachine

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I get around 8%-10% with trim the highest I achieved with nugs was ~18%. I do the long soak method instead of tube. Depending on quality I leave it sometimes only 5 minutes and some other times up to an hour. I know you can do longer but sometimes a person just doesn't care to wait lol
 

Twitch

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the most i pulled off of nugs was just over 6 grams off an ounce, i posted up pics and exact numbers some where in the C&E section
 
I haven't personally ran things. But have a few buddies that have ran the bud that I smoke on, and that's what they're getting. Best nut run achieved was 16% once, but it usually hovers around 12% or so for buds. As far as popcorn and shake, nothing over 10. From what I've read, the biggest factor is the quality of the bud, but other then quality, is there any variables that are crucial to achieving higher yields( purge temp, butane quality)?
Also, Twitch I'll look for it. And let you know what I think
 

Sk306

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Ill answer certain questions publicly, but it has taken alot of sacrifice to perfect this, so please understand if I don't wish to reveal EVERYTHING.
#1: BHO, It has taken alot of trial and error, and is a very long processes. I don't feel like writing out my whole technique. If you have an idea of how to make shatter, maybe pm me with what you do, and I can suggest how to improve.
#2: Usually 1.5-2 oz per tube, usually a qp ran through, with 10, yes 10, cans pushed through the tubes, 5 each. Each can is 300ml. so approximately 750ml/oz.
#3: My returns are anywhere from 15%-25, I have even came close to 30% sometimes, although very rare... all depends on starting material and nug size.
 

Twitch

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Ill answer certain questions publicly, but it has taken alot of sacrifice to perfect this, so please understand if I don't wish to reveal EVERYTHING.
#1: BHO, It has taken alot of trial and error, and is a very long processes. I don't feel like writing out my whole technique. If you have an idea of how to make shatter, maybe pm me with what you do, and I can suggest how to improve.
#2: Usually 1.5-2 oz per tube, usually a qp ran through, with 10, yes 10, cans pushed through the tubes, 5 each. Each can is 300ml. so approximately 750ml/oz.
#3: My returns are anywhere from 15%-25, I have even came close to 30% sometimes, although very rare... all depends on starting material and nug size.
https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/624465-bho-vacuum-oil-wax-tutorial.html

so guy you think you have some pretty good info???? everything you know and more is in that thread

Dr. John you dont need to pm some ignorant ass that thinks he knows it all, i am an ignorant ass and ill answer all of your question publicly, unfortunately i dont know it all... just enough lol
 

Twitch

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i think everyone in here that will agree with you 100% a lot of trail and error and sacrifice and wasted oil, ask Guz he has a 50 gram slab of wax sitting in pump oil, i think he has suspended it in a jar now.
but the difference is, we all got together and shared our techniques and we all have improved from when we first started, because a few of us have been exchanging ideas and techs with each other for about a year now...
 

Sk306

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i think everyone in here that will agree with you 100% a lot of trail and error and sacrifice and wasted oil, ask Guz he has a 50 gram slab of wax sitting in pump oil, i think he has suspended it in a jar now.
but the difference is, we all got together and shared our techniques and we all have improved from when we first started, because a few of us have been exchanging ideas and techs with each other for about a year now...
I have done that with friends I personally know, which is why we achieve what is in the pictures, on a fairly consistent basis. I do not wish to post certain things on a public forum, when the stuff we make is better then anything I have ever PERSONALLY seen.. I'd be interested to get some of that clear product tested, but am not medical, and my province is not very mj friendly. Thanks for your post, and I wish I could say this kindly, but get the fuck off my post then. I answered every question quite accurately, and don't wish to write a tutorial. Obviously I do something quite different, to get mine to look like it does.. Also, I don't believe just because I can make something, everybody else should know how aswell? If that were the case, there would be no such thing as a patent. (Obviously I know you cannot currently patent this process. )
 

blackforest

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Ill answer certain questions publicly, but it has taken alot of sacrifice to perfect this, so please understand if I don't wish to reveal EVERYTHING.
#1: BHO, It has taken alot of trial and error, and is a very long processes. I don't feel like writing out my whole technique. If you have an idea of how to make shatter, maybe pm me with what you do, and I can suggest how to improve.
#2: Usually 1.5-2 oz per tube, usually a qp ran through, with 10, yes 10, cans pushed through the tubes, 5 each. Each can is 300ml. so approximately 750ml/oz.
#3: My returns are anywhere from 15%-25, I have even came close to 30% sometimes, although very rare... all depends on starting material and nug size.
Woah there cowboy, your shatter isn't anything we havn't seen before. Seems like you are running a lot of butane per oz. if you ask me. I would even say maybe a bit under purged. Just my opinion

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Sk306

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For starters, no "cowboys" in this thread. I had stated that it is the best I had PERSONALLY seen, not over the internet.. I'm sure there are a few people on this site who'd put me to shame, and I have no problem with that. Now, to address your critique of my product, I do agree the yellow product on the right is probably under-purged, patience is key, and also something that I don't always possess. The picture on the left, purged for over 48 hours, I highly highly doubt it is under purged... The only improvement would be to winterize it in my opinion. To the Butane:Bud ratio, again, this is from my experience, and only my personal opinion, but I found that ratio to be best for Grade A nugs, obviously I would run less butane if it were trim/shake because there is less product to be extracted. The cookie you posted.. are the pictures in order? I'd assume so, and again in my opinion your heat is too high, which gave you more of a honey-comb look to your product, which i bet crumbles, not shatters like glass. If that's what you prefer, all the power to you. I'd be happy to post pictures that look exactly like yours from old runs aswell if you don't believe me.
 

Sk306

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I don't understand what either of you are trying to prove? I am simply stating I have a slightly different method then any tutorial I have seen.. If you are going for crumbly " Honey Comb " Good for you guys, I am not, and use a different method then you. I don't wish to disclose 100% of it to somebody I don't know, and has never done anything for me. Thanks for coming out.
 

blackforest

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For starters, no "cowboys" in this thread. I had stated that it is the best I had PERSONALLY seen, not over the internet.. I'm sure there are a few people on this site who'd put me to shame, and I have no problem with that. Now, to address your critique of my product, I do agree the yellow product on the right is probably under-purged, patience is key, and also something that I don't always possess. The picture on the left, purged for over 48 hours, I highly highly doubt it is under purged... The only improvement would be to winterize it in my opinion. To the Butane:Bud ratio, again, this is from my experience, and only my personal opinion, but I found that ratio to be best for Grade A nugs, obviously I would run less butane if it were trim/shake because there is less product to be extracted. The cookie you posted.. are the pictures in order? I'd assume so, and again in my opinion your heat is too high, which gave you more of a honey-comb look to your product, which i bet crumbles, not shatters like glass. If that's what you prefer, all the power to you. I'd be happy to post pictures that look exactly like yours from old runs aswell if you don't believe me.
We don't power trip around here just so you know. I was just saying that we share pretty much all our secrets. And humor is good too. My images were not in progression, they were three separate runs. There is no real secret in shatter vs. honeycomb...it's just temp and time. Shatter makes me cough my ball sacks off, honey comb doesn't...

All jokes aside, nice looking product and welcome.
 

BluJayz

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More like if you tell us, we can give you suggestions on how to improve. bongsmilie

I don't doubt you may have something to contribute; but that's the idea. We pool together information and tips to provide everyone with the highest quality medicine.

Having more of a "lets chat" mojo going instead of "peer into my dark secrets" would keep the hounds at bay. :bigjoint:
 
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