ShLUbY

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Everything is looking great in here, love the Brainwreck. Mind if I pick your brain a bit? I have my plants up and running, sprouted in party cups(Fox Farm Soil) for a little longer than I wanted waiting on smart pots to come in. When I transplanted them into the new soil/pots I noticed they were a little root bound bit not bad, at the same time as transplant I moved them under a CMH 1000 watt running at 75% and 40" above the tallest plant. The leaves curled upwards, thought it was transplant shock so I let it go for a couple days then raised the light a little farther and dropped it to 50% today as they haven't improved. Ran out of space in my tent so I left a couple under the florescent light until my next setup is ready, those are looking amazing. Any idea what could be up? Temps range from 72-76 humidity 38-45, 24 hour light.
when you say curling up, do you mean the leaf tips, or are they cupping up around the edges? if you're running the light at 50% (500 watts), i would bring the light back down. maybe 24" or so. being rootbound shouldn't affect them (as you can see from my most recent transplants haha). environment seems to be on point... so i'm not really sure? if you want to post a picture of it feel free.
 

Mohican

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I would raise the temps to the 80s. What soil did you transplant to and what are you feeding them?
 

DGrowers

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The leaves are curling up, not just the tips. They are now showing discoloration unfortunately, they need topped but don't want to place them under extra stress!

I transplanted them into a local company's version of super soil, this is their ingredient list:
Ingredients: Peat, Perlite, Rice Hulls, Compost, Biochar, Oyster Shell Flour, gypsum, Azomite, Basalt Rock Dust, Crab Shells, Fish Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Fish Bone Meal, Kelp Meal, Diatomaceous Earth.

Soil was allowed to cook for 4 weeks before transplanting, haven't fed anything besides LABs once weekly since transplanting.

My humidity went crazy with this winter plunge this weekend dropping down into the high 20's overnight so I placed a pan of water inside to help with that. I'll get some pictures uploaded here shortly.

24hr hi/low: CMH Tent:26-42 Humidity 68-76 Temp. LED Tent: 30-55 Humidity 63-70 Temp.

House Closet: 34-50 Humidity 64-71 Temp.
 
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DGrowers

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These are in my house closet, much better shape than the others in tents in the shop.IMG_2570.jpg These are the worst looking, in CMH tent. All show slight cupping of the leaves but severe discoloration.
Bottom picture is the harshest curling.
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ShLUbY

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These are in my house closet, much better shape than the others in tents in the shop.View attachment 4267478 These are the worst looking, in CMH tent. All show slight cupping of the leaves but severe discoloration.
Bottom picture is the harshest curling.
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soil looks extremely dry. get a mulch on that! straw is cheap and effective. 1" layer works great! they almost look underwatered to me. while you want to keep the whole pot at a good moisture, you also want to be sure to replenish the original root ball once in a while too, as that's where they're going to remove moisture first. leaf cupping could be due to not enough water, they're trying to minimize photosynthetic rates. any thoughts on that? what's your watering schedule like?
 

DGrowers

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soil looks extremely dry. get a mulch on that! straw is cheap and effective. 1" layer works great! they almost look underwatered to me. while you want to keep the whole pot at a good moisture, you also want to be sure to replenish the original root ball once in a while too, as that's where they're going to remove moisture first. leaf cupping could be due to not enough water, they're trying to minimize photosynthetic rates. any thoughts on that? what's your watering schedule like?
Well I am glad you said that, went and checked the ones showing bad signs of curling and they were about bone dry. I have them set up in the SWICK method, ran about 4-5 waterings over the top then was just replenishing the reservoir as it seemed to take. Gave em all a good water tonight, hopefully that is the cupping issue. As for as mulching had planned on letting them get settled in throw a castings/compost mixture with some bokashi and then cover with plastic.
 

ShLUbY

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Well I am glad you said that, went and checked the ones showing bad signs of curling and they were about bone dry. I have them set up in the SWICK method, ran about 4-5 waterings over the top then was just replenishing the reservoir as it seemed to take. Gave em all a good water tonight, hopefully that is the cupping issue. As for as mulching had planned on letting them get settled in throw a castings/compost mixture with some bokashi and then cover with plastic.
ok there's a starting place. you should just loosely put the plastic over it for now anyway. it'll make a huge difference. or if you have some other plastic you can cut to the circumference of the pots.
 

ShLUbY

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So I want to share a tactic I have when there's either no space in the garden or when I know I have a couple weeks until my next batch of soil is ready. In this case... it is both for me!

Here is a tray of clones that has gotten a bit overgrown, but I'm waiting on soil and I don't even have room to transplant and have them all in the veg tent due to my next flower plants are still hanging out til next weekend.

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and here is that tray after a major defoliation and manicuring. now, I know this may seem aggressive, but I need them to slow down, and I need them to start bushing so I have to get light to those axillary nodes. In two weeks, you won't even be able to tell!

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I'll follow up in a couple weeks on these!
 

ShLUbY

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Couple Gorilla Glue #4 shots. These are 35 days on the nose. They're in the weakest area of the light footprint, unfortunately, but that's just how it had to be this time... squeezing them in! Still lookin good though...

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More coming soon....

:leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::peace::peace::peace::peace::peace::peace::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf:
 

ShLUbY

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Here are the two P98 Bubba Kush plants I'm doing a small experiment with. One on the left is in a 7 gal that is top water only, one on the right is in a pumice SIP that will have the occasional top water when adding coconut water/aloe/etc. but mostly it will be sub irrigated. Not sure how those branches broke on the left one. shit happens when you're gone for 5 days haha. They're both doing well, and after I took this pic, I defoliated and manicured them big time. I'll take a pic next week after they've had some recovery time. They're going into flower this coming weekend.

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updates still to come will be brainwreck @ 9 weeks, shangrila @ 6 weeks, and another run of brainwreck @ 4 weeks (the nicest canopy of wreck i think i've ever grown). See you soon!

:leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::peace::peace::peace::peace::peace::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf:
 

ShLUbY

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Little update for the Cookies N Chem from Greenpoint. This was at 23 days after they broke the soil. I don't understand why they got so stretchy, they were directly under the light and not crowed at all (had their own tray!). But man the stems are thick thick thick and sturdy. So I transplanted them to the 1 gal pumice SIPs and it seems as though their node spacing is starting to decrease, which is good. Hopefully they stay sturdy and don't start to topple over while I'm gone during the week.

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ShLUbY

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I'd also like to share, I have officially cut Oyster Shell Flour from my mixes. I'm on my 2nd or 3rd recycle with a batch or two and so far I'm seeing no ill effects. I just have to figure that between the rock dust, gypsum, crab meal, and worm castings (which I recently learned have a calcitic slime coating on them) there is plenty of available calcium in the mix. I'm interested to see how this progresses upon more recycling, but so far no sign of Ca deficiency.

My reasoning for removing the OSF is due to its buffering effect AFTER peat has basically been decomposed into a more neutral form over time. It is well known that peat loses its acidity over time. So I want the plant and the microbes to be able to regulate their own pH of the medium once that acidity wears off and buffering from CaCO3 is less needed. The addition of worm castings or compost extract, which contain fulvic acids, will also help with buffering.

I was contemplating whether or not to start incorporating a bit of elemental sulfur prills to the mix to help with acidity after peat neutralizes. To my understanding, this is a slow microbial process to start cycling sulfur => sulfuric acid to acidify the soil. So instead of doing that, i've increased my gypsum content to 1cup per cu.ft. with this most recent recycle. I'm hoping to see my pH a little closer to 6.0 as opposed to closer to 7 as I've been experiencing recently. Also hoping my straw mulch will help propagate more fungi in the soil and they will also help acidify the medium a bit. The Ca portion of gypsum is not in carbonate form, so it will not have an affect (at least I speculate it won't) on neutralization of the mix.
 

ShLUbY

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Shangri-la coming in at 42 days and looking chunky! Odors are insane and this plant is truly one of the best cultivars I've had the pleasure of growing in years. It won't be leaving my garden for a looooooooooooong time. Looking like 10-14 days left on her. My buddy reported chopping at day 50... we'll see what the scope says this weekend.

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Cheers! :leaf::leaf::leaf::peace::peace::peace::leaf::leaf::leaf:
 

ShLUbY

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Brainwreck @ 28 days. I have to say... I'm quite pleased with this canopy. Did a pretty heavy defoliation at 21 days and now it looks like nothing even happened! I was a little afraid I overdid a couple of them but they look great to me after a week. Hell, I even see a few leaves in this pic that I should have taken during the defo, haha. These are in 5 gal plastics, I put a pretty healthy top dress on each plant at 14 days in to carry them through.

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ShLUbY

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I've been meaning to post these for a while... Some shots of my gourmet mushroom grows! If anyone wants to talk mycology, I'm all ears and this is the place to do it!

5x5x5 greenhouse (amazon cheapie), 6" intake and exhaust fans (240cfm) with HEPA filtration, 6 disc ultrasonic fogger in 20gal res, Inkbird RH/DH humidity controller, and a whole lot of fun!

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Ostreatus pleurotus (Oyster Mushroom)
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Hericium erinaceus
(Lion's Mane)
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Pleurotus eryngii
(King Oyster)
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