Should I grow in the house or build a shed?

petrushka

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Initially I was planning to split my bedroom in two and grow in a 4'x5'x6' with 600W.

But this setup would render my bedroom almost unusable and in particular the closet would need to be emptied and I have no place to move the stuff.

I have a tiny kind off a "yard" and decided to build a kind of a shed there to put the excess stuff in until the grow is done. And then it occurred to me that I could just grow in it.

The shed would be of a comparable size, could be made light and water proof and probably airtight enough to put a activated carbon filter and a fan.

As I see it the main problem would be the low temperatures at night during the dark period. Around here the temperatures now move between 40-55F (4C-13C)and will be 45-63F (8-17C) by June.

I could take the air in from the house and it would raise the temperatures a bit. But I cannot isolate the shed. I assume that a 600W MH/HPS lamp would keep the temps high enough during the veg phase and during the day by 12/12. But at night the temps will fall to almost the same as outside.

Growing in the shed would make my life easier but I don't want to screw up my grow.

What do you think?
 

boabbymac

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well imo i would grow in the shed seems the easiest option.the temp issue is fairly easily resolved just get a small oil heater and a seperate timer so that once your shed cools down the heater will go on until your lights come back on.
 

petrushka

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The shed could be made pretty airtight with foils and duct tape and the air could be drawn from the bedroom so the pests should actually stay out but the temperature problem remains.

The equipment, the seeds and the materials for the shed will run to ca USD2000. I just can't afford to buy a heater I think.
I could divert the exhaust from the house heating into the shed which would not only heat it but also pump plenty of CO2 inside but I can't leave the house heating on at night. That would cost me a fortune.
 

CokeyoDrips

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This was my idea growing in Canada all winter. Build your shed and insulate it well. Rather than one 600w for flowering, run two 400w in two "rooms" (actually just separated by an uninsulated wall). They have to be light proof. You run one room for 12 hours with a room heat exchanger venting into the room currently not on. Then exhaust from there. When the 12 hours is up and the lights go out, your second room turns on and vents itself vice versa. 24 hours worth of profitable heat, simple and contained completely in one unit...No ducts connected to your house!
 

pokesalotasmot

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So you'll build a shed in your yard from scratch? Like someone said, what are you going to do with your electric? Have a cord run through your yard? And what about water, when you need to water them. You don't think your neighbors will be suspicious seeing you carry multiple gallons of water in and out of your shed?

And you yourself, you will probably be in that shed almost every day. Almost all my neighbors have sheds, and not one of them is in there every single day, even this one guy, who is a die-hard gardener. IMO its going to be more trouble than it is worth, and risky.

Did you consider doing a small stealth grow? It won't eat up as much of your living space, and might be better suited for you if you only plan on growing enough for one or two people. :confused: :blsmoke:
 

pokesalotasmot

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This was my idea growing in Canada all winter. Build your shed and insulate it well. Rather than one 600w for flowering, run two 400w in two "rooms" (actually just separated by an uninsulated wall). They have to be light proof. You run one room for 12 hours with a room heat exchanger venting into the room currently not on. Then exhaust from there. When the 12 hours is up and the lights go out, your second room turns on and vents itself vice versa. 24 hours worth of profitable heat, simple and contained completely in one unit...No ducts connected to your house!

If you're describing what I think you are, it sounds like the plants would not get any good fresh air? Or am I too baked to understand what you said...lol bongsmilie
 

doobiee

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I was thinking about doing this, until i remembered there are choppers out there... woah you gotta watch out for those, they might be looking/notice (for) people's weed in a shed outside. ...
 

Ichi

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Stay in the house. You have to tend to a garden. You will go out there every day for hopefully long periods of time to take care of your babies. Lets just say your asshole neighbor sees you go in, shut the door behind you, and then not come out for 30 min. Once he might ignore it but twice you are going to peak someones interest. When growing weed this is the last thing that you want. I think that being inside is safe and smart.bongsmilie
 

petrushka

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The shed would be built as an extension to the house. So nobody will see any cables or see me coming in or out. I would even place a large mirror on the ceiling of the shed to shield from infrared detection. I didn't mention any of it, because if I had, the post would get very long and nobody would answer. You know how it is.
There are many other factors that play a role but I don't wan to overwhelm you with unnecessary information. As I said, my main worry is the temperature.
 

Ichi

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As I said, my main worry is the temperature.
I'm still with the house. The house already stays an steady normal temperature. You don't have to fool with anything in that regard. I can definitely see the draw to having a "weed cave." Just promise me that you will love them. bongsmilie
 

petrushka

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Rest assured I'll adore them. I keep admiring the pics on seed banks websites and salivating.
I understand the constant temperature thing. I am not planning on growing outdoor strains like Holland's Hope but more like SLH and Night shade. Here, that was my plan before I thought to bulid a shed:https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/181201-assorted-pickandmixseeds-600w-indoor.html

It is very tempting to move them out though. All that mess on the carpet, not enough room to swing a cat in the bedroom, let alone be able to screw decently.
 

BlazaBlaze

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Hmmm, from what ive read on here, 65 degrees seems to be a good lights out temp.....and you said it would be about 65 during the day. Why not just run your light, uncooled, at night, then during the dark hours, when the light isnt producing heat, you wont need it to seeing as it is 65 during the day. This might require a bigger light (1000w). In my opinion, this would be a double plus as youd get more light and higher yield/denser buds, and still be able to keep your room at a decent temp. More often then not, I see on here people who would love to have a 1000 watter but cant because of heat...sounds like you're lucky then as one would fit you perfectly. Hope that helped, lemme know what you think.
 

Chumlie

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depending on your lights why don't you just insulate with the good stuff. That would help with the temp, bugs, and gov. Get a heater on a thermastat.
 

petrushka

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Obviously I have considered having the light off during the day. Again, trying to be as concise as possible I didn't put it in my first post.

There are three problems with it:
1) It would increase the exposure to infrared detection several times because it would be one single shed glowing in an otherwise dark area.
2) The temperatures during the day would be still low. The 55F-63F (13C-17C) are average highs. Meaning that they would be reached on average at around 2PM. Sometimes they would never be reached and they would be lower on average for the rest of the day.
3) It would complicate my tending to the plants and would force me to make suspicious noises in the shed at night.

If you remember I said that I can draw the air from the house. And while I can't isolate the shed thermally like my house, it would be completely enclosed and a couple of degrees warmer than outside.
I guess now I finally gave all the info.

You pretty much convinced to keep the grow to my bedroom but it would be very uncomfortable and seems such a waste. I mean it would be so much easier for me space-wise and all the dirty work with water and earth would take place outside instead of on the carpet of my bedroom.

All your input is to the point. I understand all the theory of it but I have no experience in these things. I have no idea how much heat a 600W bulb produces, how much warmer such a shed would be and how much heat it could accumulate and conserve.
 

Jtoth3ustin

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growing in a shed is usualy a bad idea. but if your attach it the house. you should be fine man. its just like adding on a washer and dryer room... as for temps what the one guy said a while back could work for ya..about alternating the two rooms light schedules . using each light to heat the other room... or just go buy a couple 20 dollar ceramic heaters, and put them on a timr, so you dont burn the house down..... Pe@ce man..
 
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